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Hi gents. I’m glad to be here. I was a die hard blue piller, a white knight and a mangina. I’m an old guy. I’m 63, healthy, retired and live in sunny South Florida. I now do what I want, when I want and answer to no human being. I was married for 35 years, I’ve been divorced for 5 and I am the most content that I’ve ever been. I’ve been in four relationships since the divorce. I inadvertently swallowed the red pill after relationship #2. I got a few WTF moments after I swallowed it, but my indoctrination motivated me to push through and keep looking for the “One”. <Snort!> I’m awake now….fully awake, living my dream and it does not involve and will not involve being in a relationship with a woman. At some point, I’ll share some of my experiences if you would like to read them. As I wrote them down today I wonder how / why I didn’t move faster to stop the insanity. Lessons learned. I don’t want to show up here and throw up a wall of text, so I’m not going to fill up the forum. That said, I’m happy to be a part of this great group.
Meshak
Anonymous3Hello! I’m an old guy too. Woke up awhile back but just learned about mgtow. Great to b here. Glad your here & glad I’m here
Welcome Meshak. Pleasure to have you aboard. SMW.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
if you would like to read them.
Yes we would. Feel Free.
I’m awake now….fully awake
Welcome. Grab some breakfast now that you are up. LOL
BTW Good looking Les Paul. May he RIP.
Welcome Meshak, Looking forward to hearing your story. Bring it!!
Get a vasectomy.
Join the old guys club. I’m 62 and going through a divorce right now. Dated for 5 years and married for 23. I thought I was just a poor judge of women having been married twice. After joining this site I found out AWALT. No more relationships for me. Hope to retire next year if I come out of this divorce with any assets. Hell I may just retire even if I don’t.
Welcome
TTW
I ain't got a wife to spend my money, I have to do that all by myself.
Welcome sir! Looking forward to read some of your stories.
The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
Welcome Meshak,
I’m 63, healthy, retired and live in sunny South Florida. I now do what I want, when I want and answer to no human being. I was married for 35 years, I’ve been divorced for 5 and I am the most content that I’ve ever been
It sounds like you got a good thing going already!
I’m awake now….fully awake, living my dream and it does not involve and will not involve being in a relationship with a woman. At some point, I’ll share some of my experiences if you would like to read them
This a nice little short intro so when you’re ready tell us your stories.
You must own a better Crystal ball than Iwelcome.
glad you found your way here,
enjoy !!!
Anonymous43woot. welcome brother, I’m in swfl
I’ll share some of my experiences if you would like to read them
Hell yeah. That’s what we came here for. We want to hear what other men have to say, swap stories and make derogatory comments about each other while drinking .
WelcomeIf you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
I thought I was just a poor judge of women having been married twice. After joining this site I found out AWALT.
I had a friend say, ‘I had a bad picker’ cause I kept picking the wrong women. I know it was a joke, but I carried that thought a long time in the back of my head. It was an anchor to the bluepill mentality. Then MGTOW. Funny how a little thing like AWALT can change your whole perspective, and then change your whole life.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Welcome, brother. You’re in good company!
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Ok. This is the second relationship I had after divorce. I had a marriage that was sexless for the last two years, and a constant fight to get it once a month. At the end, I lost 40 lbs, was severely depressed and thought my life was over. Sometimes you have to go through the fire. Life is good. I use the second relationship, because the first one was a rebound. I thought I was really in love with this one. Grab a drink, sit back and follow me on my journey. I hope I don’t run out of room. It’s fairly lengthy.
The First “One”. <Snort!>
Number 1: Pro: Great sex, she loved giving blowjobs, Hot, affectionate, sexy, good sense of humor, Love Bomber, made me feel like I was king of the world.
Con: S~~~ testing. Jeckyl and Hyde personality. The mask fell off early and several other times as the relationship moved toward it’s end. Early on I failed to recognize it and when I did, I hoped it would go away. Looking back, I was manipulated but I was in love. For the first time, thought I had found the “one”. I was blue pillin’ hard.
WARNING: When a women says time and time again: I don’t need a man to be happy, make your exit plans. I’ve run into two of them and one needs to GTFO with as little damage as possible. Don’t listen to the guilt.
Some examples and warning signs that I observed:
Late without a reasonable excuse. She let me sit outside at her home at night after driving 70 miles, for an hour in the winter. She was drinking with friends. Came home buzzed. No apology and I didn’t mention it.
Talking with her on the phone, she was stoned as she was most days. Said she needed to feed her dog, be right back. I hear her talking to her dog and rambling on for 15 minutes. I hang up. She called back, “Why did you hang up?” Really? Because you forgot about me and show zero respect for my time? Excuse: I’m sorry, I put my phone down in the pantry and forgot about it. Duh.
Note: Never call or text someone when they fail to follow through.
Several times over 7 months. Agreed to call me and didn’t. When I texted and called, no response. My last text: Look, if you can’t or don’t want to follow through on commitments, just say so. I don’t appreciate this. Excuse: I was unpacking boxes and left my phone in one of the boxes. I forgot about it and went to sleep.
Another time, agreed to call me after dinner. No call. I called at 9 pm. Voice mail. I left a voice mail; “Wow, I was really looking forward to talking with you tonight.” I was jonesing hard for her. Excuse: I fell asleep.
S~~~ Test 1: 2 weeks in. She says; “ I really shouldn’t be chasing a man and driving 70 miles to do so. Maybe we should back off for a while.” My response. I said; “No I don’t want to back off. If you feel that way, I would prefer that we go our own ways. I’m sorry it didn’t work out.” She backpedals and cries, stating that I didn’t come to her place often enough. I agreed to come to her place more often and told her it would be much simpler to communicate her needs, rather than creating drama.
S~~~ Test 2: About 2 months in. She says; “My belief in God is really important in my life. “I really need the man in my life to be interested in going to church with me.” She had never asked. I got a bit angry and told her that if she wanted something, ask. I went to church with her and things were fine for an a while.
S~~~ Test 3: We had exchanged several texts during the day. She called me on her way home from work. As she pulled up to her home in the country, she became irate, as her ex and one of her male friends were installing a gate in her driveway. They had a line of beer bottles lined up indicating they were fueled up for the project and had put the gate in a place that she was not happy with. More bitching. She says; “Lets have a talk later, I need to get off the phone.” Later we talk and 5 minutes into the conversation she says that she’s tired and needs to get off the phone. I said Ok, but what did you want to talk about. She said; “I didn’t want to talk about anything.” I repeated exactly what she said. She became angry and said; “Don’t tell me I said something when I didn’t.” I said goodbye, followed up with an email that I was done. Three days later we made nice, met for dinner and she made a point that I’ve broken her heart by walking out on her. She says that it wouldn’t be a good idea to stay over tonight. I told her that I had no plans to do so and didn’t bring clothes. Tells me that she can’t stand to have me walk out of the relationship again. Things go well for a month.
S~~~ Test 4: It’s the dead of winter, the mountains of NC and TN are having travel advisories. Snow is heavy. We both live in mountain towns in our respective states. She is hauling firewood into the house, the wheelbarrow slips and a piece of firewood hits her in the nose. I felt bad for her. She sent several pictures. Nothing terrible, but again, I’m a nurse. Lot’s of “I wish you were here for me.” comments and I wanted to be the White Knight and be there. Just not possible with the weather.
She comes to my place the following weekend. She has been feeling under the weather. Sitting on the couch, she is commenting that she wishes she were at home and able to see her grandchildren and says she hates having to travel away from them. I told her that I understood and that it was fine with me if she wanted to go. I’m running out of patience and let my feelings show. There was some crying, tried to guilt me because I wasn’t there for her when she took one on the nose. We talked, made up and I discovered that she wanted to marry me. Mixed emotions.
We agreed to a long engagement, with no timeline for marriage. She mentioned that she would lose her 2k a month alimony if she got married. Hint: it’s about the money. More shenanigans from her over the next month, including a request that I consider getting matching tattoo that would be complete when we held hands. Lot’s of photo’s sent illustrating those she would like. During a phone call one night, she’s stoned, watching the Voice and there is a girl with a star tattoo on her face. Talks about getting one just like that. Look, tats are ok, but I’m not getting one. She has a beautiful face, has a nose stud that tasteful, but she’s 51 years old, not 21. She has a tramp stamp that I’ve stared at while banging her from behind and I’m kind of used to a turquoise wolf looking at me as I’m doing the doggy deed. Dogs have to stick together right? She asked me to move in with her, talked about building a new master suite on the ground floor that opens up to a pool and a hot tub.
S~~~ Test 5: Expresses concern about me moving in. Her concern was that since I was close to retirement, that I would quit my job, move in and she would have to support me. ???? WTF? I don’t need to be supported, that when we decided that this was what we wanted, I would line up a job first. She said that she noticed me staring at the mountains out her backdoor and that must mean that I’m having second thoughts about our relationship. I didn’t tell her, but the warning bells are going off. There was talk about me selling versus renting my home and I think she wanted me to rent in case things did not work out. I wanted to sell, lots of equity. I planned to buy a small place in her town as a out, that I could use as a rental property. I could not rent where I currently lived based on HOA regs. You had to live there 2 years before renting. I had been there one year. Welcome to the real world. Living with someone can be complicated.
After much conversation, I said that we needed to table this motion and think long and hard about the engagement. She brought up the subject a few weeks later and began to talk about how great it would be when I moved in. She still expressed concern about it, but said that’s what she wanted. When I gave her that; “We are sitting in church, it’s quiet and you just loudly farted”, look on my face, she became quiet and said; “Or not.” I just said that we could talk about it later. No need to rush into things, right?
S~~~ Test 6 is the final test. After being up since 5: 00 AM, working the whole day, I arrive at her place around 7:00 pm. She has a girlfriend and friends over from out of town. Lots of drinking and again, she’s stoned. At 11:30 I tell her that I’m going to bed, that I’m exhausted. This figures into her s~~~ test, which is coming the next day. The next day she has plans to go on a shopping Marathon with her friend. Being the blue piller and White Knight, I stay at her place, Mow a couple of acres, cut down some brush. She gets home around 5:00 pm and shows me all of the clothes she bought and a cute bikini she bought for the cruise I’m taking her on next week. That’s right folks, the money is pouring out. Thank God I had a good job. We go out for dinner and drinks with her Ex, his girlfriend, her friend and me. I limited my intake to 1.5 beers. My ass is whipped. I’ve been working all day. We leave the place at around 10:00 pm. She’s been to her Ex’s car and smoked a bowl after consuming around 4 beers. Speech is slurred and she is driving. I’m nervous. We get home, more drinking and more smoking. At 11:30 I say, I’m going to bed. She says goodnight, she’s up talking with her friend. At 2:00 am she’s not in bed. I find her sitting on the couch, watching TV with Chinese eyes. I ask her if she wants to come to bed. I get the silent treatment. I shut off the television and tell her that I don’t do the silent treatment. She had previously told me about her mother’s mental abuse, directed at family and it included up to 2 weeks of the silent treatment. I make a comment about following in her mother’s footsteps. More argument and anger directed toward me because I fell asleep the night before and she was looking forward to sex. I explained myself as best I could but she was mean and nasty. Then came the accusation; “All you want is sex!” I explained that I was tired and all I wanted was to sleep next to her. Her response with fire in her eyes; “I don’t believe you!” I then opened a door that I would not or could not close. I spoke of my concern about the amount of drinking and smoking that she did and in particular how when mixed with the prescription narcotics she was taking, was not a good thing. I went to bed for an hour, returned to the living room, woke her up and got her into bed.
I did some thinking during the remainder of the night. As much as I loved her, I could not stay in this twisted relationship, but thought, lets see how things are in the morning when she is sober. The plan was for her and her girlfriend to go to church and the white knight stay and cut 5 small trees down so her view on the mountain would be unobstructed. I brought up last night’s conversation and found that she was firmly entrenched in her attitude. While she was dressing, I packed my suitcase, said goodbye to her dog and got my s~~~ out of the garage. When I returned to the house, I told her that I was leaving. She said; “I thought you were going to cut those trees down.” I told her no, that after last night, I needed to go home. Told her that I would see her when I saw her. Went home, wrote an email explaining that I couldn’t imagine that she would want to spend 5 days on a ship together, so that it was probably a good idea to end this. We agreed to talk by phone the next day. I did all the talking and told her exactly why this wasn’t working for me. I acted positive but inside I was dying. She thought I was going to let her go on the cruise since the tickets were paid for and one was in her name. I called and spoke to the female agent that I had worked with and explained the situation. I told her that I thought I was screwed. She told me that my girlfriend had already called and tried to arrange to purchase the ticket on her own. You see, her Ex and his girlfriend were going on the same cruise and we were supposed to drive to Florida together. The agent told me that since I had purchased cruise insurance, I could get a full refund, minus the insurance premium. I emailed my now ex-girlfriend and explained that I wasn’t going to pay for the cruise. The venom level escalated terribly. The usual s~~~. I broke her heart, I was at fault, I agreed to pay for the cruise so I should honor my obligations. Basically, she was like a monkey in the zoo, throwing her little monkey s~~~ b~~~~ every chance she got. We exchanged numerous emails over the next couple of months. The one apology I got was; “I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings.” Not sorry for or acknowledging her behavior mind you. I told her that I was no longer going to respond to her venomous texts or emails and that if she could be reasonable or talk in a calm manner, I would reconsider. I got one last text from her a year and a half later. It was an angry text. I had retired, was sitting in a Cracker Barrel, driving to my new life in South Florida. More venom and accusations. I simply said, wow, so angry and hurt. The response; “Maybe a little hurt.” Finally I told her that No contact would be best for us. More venom follows and I said; “Now would be a good time to institute the No Contact Policy. Her last attempt at shaming; “Now you’re all alone. How do you like that? All I could say was; “You have no idea.” I truly dodged the big one as painful as it was. MGTOW for life.!
Meshak
I don’t want to show up here and throw up a wall of text,
I see what you meant by a wall of text Meshak,
let me cancel all my appointments for the remainder of the week so I can take it all in… Pulling your legs! 😜 I’m going to read it all! Thanks 😎 ⬇The First “One”. <Snort!>
S~~~ Test 1: 2 weeks in.
S~~~ Test 2: About 2 months in
S~~~ Test 3: We had exchanged several texts during the day.
S~~~ Test 4: It’s the dead of winter, the mountains of NC and TN are having travel advisories. Snow is heavy.
S~~~ Test 5: Expresses concern about me moving in.
OK my Friend You really need to stay away from women like humm.. Say a couple of years, no sex no dating cold turkey and.. that should help you! Just Saying!
Ouch!! Yep I read it all and I think you really need a break! I hope mgtow can help you focus on yourself not on what women want from you.
You must own a better Crystal ball than I
Anonymous3I read it all & I definitely agree with Macho about you focusing in on your own needs for a good long time ( maybe you are all ready )
One thing I will say I admire your stick-to-itness. You may have displaced your loyalty as well as your heart
I have a friend who often says ‘ I’m glad its over ” & I say that for this incredible endurance contest you were in.
Solitude is s giftWelcome Brother…I read it all and I thank you for sharing your experience…Those s~~~ tests seem very familiar…Thank you…I learned a lot and keep posting…Its good to hear the experiences of the older guys so that we who are still younger wont make the same mistakes and know what to avoid…Thank you Meshak…Welcome to the group…
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
Welcome brother! It is interesting how detailed you were in describing the s~~~ tests she applied. I can see the similarities in my life.
Her: “You’ll never find someone like me!”
Me: “That’s the plan.”A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
lol! Loved your posts. Thank you all for the welcome. For those expressing concern about what I went through, thank you.
To put things in perspective, that relationship ended in May of 2015 and the last text I received was December of 2016. I’m healed and doing well.
Next week, I’ll share the second of three experiences I had. You’ll see that I used my education, training and experience to extract myself from the situations and did not take a beating.
I wish you all a wonderful day of going your own way.
Meshak
Her: “You’ll never find someone like me!”
Me: “That’s the plan.”Awesome😎 👍 🍺
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