Interview with a woman…true story

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Acett, you are correct, I could have said that better. ie If you are a multi millionaire, you will be able to get hot chicks regardless of how you look or act, whether you have game or not.

I have spent quite a bit of $ on the top courses recommended on this site to learn and develop “game”. I have put in as much time as I am going to on the study side and still have hundreds of hours to go. I am just not going to invest anymore time or money in such folly.

If I really wanted to do it, I could put in a few hundred hours of field work by hitting on a few hundred women to learn and practice and probably get fairly good at it. While I am not Brad Pitt, I am not ugly. I am smart, employed and college educated with decades of experience in my field.

Brad P (Tao of Baddass) recommends approaching 20 women a day for 30 days to get your “base level” of game established. Then he says to keep doing it for another 6-12 months approaching at least 10 women a day to become really good. Well, to have the much time available for such work I would have to be a millionaire so I did not need a job…which would have already solved the problem.

Since I have neither that kind of money, nor am I willing to now spend the hundreds of hours of work to get enough game to overcome my economics and age, I am not anticipating any interactions with 6-10s in there 20’s which is what men of all ages find to be the most attractive age group for women.

After seeing what is behind such looks today, (albeit in a woman at the very end of her run) I have no incentive to invest any further time or money in obtaining game to land one…what would be the purpose? As you said, they are only seeking to trap men. With the force of law they have behind them, it is pretty scary.

On the other hand, if you use their selfishness and greed against them…now you have something you can rely on. ie…an escort is highly motivated to treat her clients well because that is how she becomes rich. She is motivated to ensure they have no issues with the law…because she doesn’t want issues with the law, etc.

Once you really learn the truth, as intelligent resourceful men I am certain eventually we will find a way to beat them at their own game. Perhaps it will all become virtual or robots or something, but I really believe eventually men will solve this issue.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Paint me not surprised at all. I was just posting in another thread about a woman I know who is so desperate to be married that she’s beside herself. I asked her what qualities the man she was dating had that made him worthy of marriage and she was dumbstruck and could not even formulate a response.

They don’t give a S~~~ about who we are on the inside and they NEVER HAVE. It’s just about what we can do for them. Protect, provide, serve, sacrifice and worship.

That’s our job, fellas, and any woman who tells you otherwise is full of s~~~.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Well hadenough,

everything that you write is 100% real and reflects all of my personal experiences word by word.

hadenough1969 wrote:

What is truly terrifying is that she is responsible for the medical care of hundreds of people.

God help us.

Women are the scum of the earth and we Germans have one of these “empowered superc~~~s” currently ruining our country.

Your words and this entire thread belongs in the “Top Gun” section of the forums.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

hadenough1969 wrote:

I am actually grateful for the experience…I don’t think anything else could have driven home with such a tremendous impact that this insanity in the females of this planet is REAL. I mean to tell you gentlemen, all this S~~~ IS REAL!

It definitely is. I encountered vile female nature since my birth and later I had over 4000 customers and what I have observed and “gone through” fills entire books.

My MGTOW forum participation is just at the beginning…

Now you speak out what I sometimes try to forget in order not to go insane. If you let these discoveries run in your mind for too long, you might die of grief.

Society and women – which is one and same – had lied to us from day one. And once a man wakes up, there is the possibility of him no longer seeing any sense in life. But the sooner we wake up our brothers, the less harm they take. And there are so many better things to do with your life than wasting it on ungrateful women.

hadenough1969 wrote:

Most important I now see women for what they are….and after today, my vision is even clearer.

For the first time in my life I have confidence and ease of delivery talking to any woman, especially the hot ones…because I don’t get a crap about them, what they think of me, or who they think they are. They are all scum of the earth, lower than a dog in value.

Since my childhood I was rained on by the insulting bulls~~~ women emerge every time they open their mouths. My inner secret was to dump everything a women says about me into the “mental garbage can” the moment she says it. Otherwise, I would have been driven into suicide long ago.

Women, or in other words: “Borderline patients” are allergic to any man that sees though their sick minds and blows away their camouflage.

hadenough1969 wrote:

1. They truly do not “feel” anything for a man. Absolutely
nothing.

Yes, I would always unintentionally test this point in my girlfriends. As a service person, you always have a small percentage of customers that try to drive you nuts. And I would tell some of my stories to see if she had any empathy for me and my situation. And there was the first shock. They blamed me for having problems… And then I told them how “any woman” would expect me to pay for all of her s~~~ while she is on the side of my enemies?… And the reaction sealed the end of the contact.

Women are always against you, no matter how much proof you have and how many people with integrity are behind you. Having a women is like sleeping with the enemy all the way. Like sleeping with the judge of a Russian cold war tribunal that sends you to Siberia over a parking ticket.

Being with a woman, I always felt like I was in court, having to justify everything I do.

A c~~~-free life is the way to breathe and not to choke. I don’t think of them as “sexy” anymore, no matter how hot they are.

hadenough1969 wrote:

2. They don’t view a man as a human. He is a “thing” that can
provide whatever it is they want. The first husband provided
the 1st of products, the 2nd provided another and now she is
looking for a 3rd to provide the “eternal security” via lots
of money. They see men as “beneath” them. Really. They do.

They openly treated me like that since birth. Not just my family c~~~s but 100’s of c~~~ hive women that were the customers of my mother’s beauty shop.

And you can expect any “village hive” beauty shop to be the prime breeding ground for the most repulsive and annoying c~~~s.

And the earth’s prime of stupidity concentrated in one spot.

If there was a “Geiger Counter” for measuring stupidity and abusiveness, it would still go wild and crackle like hell entering this room 35 years later…

hadenough1969 wrote:

5. The absolutely only thing they EVER think about is
themselves. Period. That is all, the DO NOT think about you
except with regard to how they can manipulate you and extract
from you.

As a young boy, I would trigger these c~~~s to come out with their way of thinking. And then they would start to preach me on “how this works” and “what I would HAVE to change in order to get married”…

And they shamed me “until the cows come home”…

My response always was: Before even one of my music albums goes in the bin, the woman is free to leave… And my reaction always made the talk of the town. All of the stupid c~~~s pitying me for “having to become a lonely bachelor” because of my refusal to change “at the command” of any woman.

Since they see me with an expensive car, the pity has instantly turned to envy and open hate.

I drive this car – and went somewhere in my profession – BECAUSE no woman was ever worth throwing away any book, tool or test equipment just to please her “control freak compulsion”.

Sex is the only thing they have to offer. And if women made you puke often enough, then your dick will not even come up for one if you are “that millionaire” that could have them all…

That is what “wondered” the hell out of these stupid cold-hearted c~~~s: “Now that he has made it, why isn’t he getting married”… Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. HE MUST BY GAY!!!

Women are really the scum of the earth. But they will never realize it.

Like Stealthy says: They just are and you can’t change them.

But you can ignore them. That’s all they deserve.

hadenough1969 wrote:

6. They will sacrifice their kids and/or their well being in
order to get what THEY want.

You must be talking about my mother…

That’s a hot one and I don’t want to spoil your day…

hadenough1969 wrote:

7. They truly do not see, recognize or even consider how evil
they are. It never crosses their minds. Ever.

That is why it is senseless to talk to any of them. They will burst out in rage over the smallest disagreement.

NEVER put your life or your sovereignty in the hands of a woman. Never marry or co-habitate…

Best if you leave them alone – to live with their 27 cats that have to put up with her s~~~ or get euthanized…

I always tell a joke:

“How do you recognize a 50-year old man that is not married?”

“HE IS SMILING!”

hadenough1969 wrote:

I am still replaying it in my mind. She was so serious, so matter of fact, so cold and hard, yet all the time projecting she was “normal” and that he was the bad guy.

Like I say, you or men in general are always the bad guy… And why should a bad guy pay for her s~~~.

Ask her: “Why did you take all that money and all of the resources from him, if he was so bad?”

“Didn’t your pride get in the way”

“Your pride as an educated and empowered woman” ????

And an explosion will follow.

One day, all men will have learned to call women out on their bulls~~~, and detonate their sick borderline hamster wheel.

Once a man is no longer a “pussy beggar” or is not pussy dependent, he has the freedom to do so.

We educate men to become free in their thoughts. And that’s why MGTOW scares women s~~~less.

We now press the eject button on all of their shaming tactics and sick manipulation games.

hadenough1969 wrote:

Here you have a completely professional, “high-class” educated successful smoking hot woman giving an unfiltered view into her mind and thought process…and it is sickening, revolting and dare I say “not of this world”. I wonder if some kind of demonic satanic force has now possessed them all.

Face it: They have always been like that.

Just now, feminism has made them show their repulsiveness without shame and NOW we see them for what they are.

Maybe feminism was created by men to set men free.

We now see things clearly and women have lost their manipulative control over us. Now we are free.

Now, the whole world sees “the deal with women” and how they f~~~ up everything they touch…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[joetechParticipant]

After all my GF has put me through, she misses the trailer the most.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 1]

Nice report, it is true that when females see you as a mangina/white knight they will open up to you and show their worst side, because they think that you are a moron/ally and won’t understand them. Let’s tell him all the bad things I have done, let’s tell him how I laugh about other guys on their backs.

They only act when there is something to get from a man, but if they want nothing from a dude they will just put the cards on the table.

I have seen and heard enough s~~~ from young girls that I could even write a book about that.

[FreedomParticipant 965]

Brilliant post….spot on.

You played a blinder with this tnuc.

She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

hadenough1969 wrote:

1. They truly do not “feel” anything for a man. Absolutely
nothing.

2. They don’t view a man as a human. He is a “thing” that can
provide whatever it is they want. The first husband provided
the 1st of products, the 2nd provided another and now she is
looking for a 3rd to provide the “eternal security” via lots
of money. They see men as “beneath” them. Really. They do.

3. They will keep up the act, play the game and do whatever is
needed for YEARS to seal the deal.

4. They are very much aware of the need to “catch the guy” before
they get to old to attract anymore. She referenced over and
over how she was “running out of time” and needed to “get this
done.”

5. The absolutely only thing they EVER think about is
themselves. Period. That is all, the DO NOT think about you
except with regard to how they can manipulate you and extract
from you.

6. They will sacrifice their kids and/or their well being in
order to get what THEY want.

7. They truly do not see, recognize or even consider how evil
they are. It never crosses their minds. Ever.

^^^^^^^^^THIS IS SOME HALL OF FAME S~~~ RIGHT HERE.^^^^^^^^^^^

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 22]

Gargamel wrote:

Your words and this entire thread belongs in the “Top Gun” section of the forums.

Agreed. Top Gun material, for sure.

Gargamel wrote:

That is what “wondered” the hell out of these stupid cold-hearted c~~~s: “Now that he has made it, why isn’t he getting married”… Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…. HE MUST BY GAY!!!

By the way, I don’t think they really think that way. When those women are talking about men and when there are no men around, I wonder how often they actually say comments like ‘he must be gay’ ? My guess would be never, unless they were talking about some specific gay man for some reason.

That gay talk is nothing but shaming language.

[Anonymous 11]

I read your fine post yesterday, and my jaw is still on the floor. Women are all about themselves.

hadenough1969 wrote:

approaching 20 women a day for 30 days to get your “base level” of game established.

I’d be lucky to be able to find five non-whales to approach every day. All I’d be thinking about was their c~~~ counts too. The age of consent is 16 in my State. I’ll take one 16 year old virgin, please.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

That gay talk is nothing but shaming language.

Yes I know, but women – if something goes wrong – always find some reason that what happened “is not their fault”.
They would never say: “I see, women f~~~ed with you so bad that now, after you started to earn money – it’s clear that you don’t believe a word they say and obviously you don’t find them valuable of trustworthy enough to share any of your assets with one of them.”

If they would let that truth sink in, it would turn them to dust in a microsecond…

During all of these years I had my way of telling them that truth in such an analytical and detailed way that they couldn’t shift to shaming language anymore. And then they would almost cry or at least – shut up.

If you need their pussy, you can tell them what you think…

I really wonder sometimes if they really believe the s~~~ they say…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[xenonParticipant 2007]

Ha, the hotter they are the more f~~~ed up they are. Brilliant. This place is on fire with nuggets of truth today.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

I’m not a weathy man, but I do have a six figure plus income and no debt. The above is the exact reason why I keep my wallet and dick where they belong.

[Anonymous 0]

The woman in the OP sounds like a textbook narcissist. She was probably trying to enlist you in her cause, that is, check you out as a possible provider or to see if you could serve as an “orbiter” (back-up guys, betas, male friends, etc. whom they can use as a status symbol or ally.)

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Here’s some background info on narcissists. I expect you’ll be able to connect some of the following to the story of the woman in the OP.

Not everyone is into the bite-sized chunks of popularized self-help psychology doled out by Dr. Phil McGraw. But sometimes he has some good tips, boiled down into neat little lists.

In his book “Life Code,” Dr. Phil calls abusive partners “BAITERs: Back stabbers, abusers, impostors, takers and reckless. They are people that will sell a patient fake medicine and are just being reckless with life itself.” He says you can detect a BAITER early on by noticing these telling characteristics:

1. See the world through a lens of entitlement. (They really believe they’re entitled to your life)
2. Lack of empathy.
3. Incapable of feeling remorse or guilt.
4. Self-destructive behavior.
5. Feed off drama and crises.
6. Try to brag and outsmart you. (You’ll hear them brag about the last person they screwed over.)
7. Have short-lived relationships.
8. Have delusions.

He supplements that list with a more comprehensive list of danger signals that he calls “The Nefarious 15”:

1. They infiltrate your life with promises and flattery. (They figure out your buttons, mimic back to you what’s important to you)
2. Define you as a conspiratorial confidant. (They talk out of the side of their mouth about other people)
3. Are focused on getting your approval.
4. They gather data to build a file on you. (They know that people like talking about themselves, so they ask a lot of questions about you to learn about you)
5. Misdirect and maintain a mystery about who they really are. (You can never get a straight answer out of them; it’s like trying to nail jello to a wall; they answer questions not asked: they talk about a detail in order to evade the larger question)
6. Constantly blame others when confronted.
7. They will lie to the point of destruction.
8. Tendency to cheat and steal.
9. Isolate their victims to foster dependency.
10. Abuse positions of power.
11. Know your hot buttons to gain leverage.
12. Selective memory. (They tend to be revisionist about history)
13. Two-faced: Spread lies and gossip.
14. Paranoid.
15. Passive aggressive. (They engage in lots of passive-aggressive sabotage)

Just for comparison, note “The seven deadly sins of narcissism” from the Wikipedia article on Narcissism:

–Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
–Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
–Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
–Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
–Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
–Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
–Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.

[Anonymous 42]

I sit here in my vacuum of wooded space where trees and forest adorn every window, and I think to myself how the f~~~ do any of you get any rest and relaxation in such close proximity to all kinds of women?

It’s nice, I mean really NICE, when you’re the only one in a sea of TREES!

I f~~~ing hate the city! Not all cities, just the cities in Massachusetts, New York, Toronto, and LA, but mostly Hollywood…

Shout out to Member Mayor of MGTOWN!!!

Anonymous wrote:

The woman in the OP sounds like a textbook narcissist. She was probably trying to enlist you in her cause, that is, check you out as a possible provider or to see if you could serve as an “orbiter” (Back-up guys, betas, male friends, etc. whom they can use as a status symbol or ally.)

**********************
Here’s some background info on narcissists. I expect you’ll be able to connect some of the following to the story of the woman in the OP.

Not everyone is into the bite-sized chunks of popularized self-help psychology doled out by Dr. Phil McGraw. But sometimes he has some good tips, boiled down into neat little lists. If nothing else, his lists can stimulate some further research or discussion. Thus:

In his book “Life Code,” Dr. Phil calls abusive partners “BAITERs: Back stabbers, abusers, impostors, takers and reckless. They are people that will sell a patient fake medicine and are just being reckless with life itself.” He says you can detect a BAITER early on by noticing these telling characteristics:

1. See the world through a lens of entitlement. (They really believe they’re entitled to your life)
2. Lack of empathy.
3. Incapable of feeling remorse or guilt.
4. Self-destructive behavior.
5. Feed off drama and crises.
6. Try to brag and outsmart you. (You’ll hear them brag about the last person they screwed over.)
7. Have short-lived relationships.
8. Have delusions.

He supplements that list with a more comprehensive list of danger signals that he calls “The Nefarious 15”:

1. They infiltrate your life with promises and flattery. (They figure out your buttons, mimic back to you what’s important to you)
2. Define you as a conspiratorial confidant. (They talk out of the side of their mouth about other people)
3. Are focused on getting your approval.
4. They gather data to build a file on you. (They know that people like talking about themselves, so they ask a lot of questions about you to learn about you)
5. Misdirect and maintain a mystery about who they really are. (You can never get a straight answer out of them; it’s like trying to nail jello to a wall; they answer questions not asked: they talk about a detail in order to evade the larger question)
6. Constantly blame others when confronted.
7. They will lie to the point of destruction.
8. Tendency to cheat and steal.
9. Isolate their victims to foster dependency.
10. Abuse positions of power.
11. Know your hot buttons to gain leverage.
12. Selective memory. (They tend to be revisionist about history)
13. Two-faced: Spread lies and gossip.
14. Paranoid.
15. Passive aggressive. (They engage in lots of passive-aggressive sabotage)

Just for comparison, note “The seven deadly sins of narcissism” from the Wikipedia article on Narcissism:

–Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
–Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
–Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
–Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
–Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
–Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
–Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.

GREAT POST TwoStep! You’ve been all around the manispheer haven’t you?

Perfect description of the 2016 female loosing candidate for the presidency! She even planned a fireworks show!

BOOM BOOM, sparkle sparkle, LOOK AT ME! I’M THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF ALL MY SUBJECTS! BOOM BOOM, sparkle sparkle, JUST PRESENT YOUR WOMAN CARD AND EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS FREE!

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Anonymous wrote:

Perfume cannot mask the scent of a rotten soul.

I like that.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

She was probably trying to enlist you in her cause, that is, check you out as a possible provider or to see if you could serve as an “orbiter” (back-up guys, betas, male friends, etc. whom they can use as a status symbol or ally.)

This is exactly what she was trying to do….it was fun to watch her try and figure out in her head if I would make a good “friend” to stroke her ego, be a FWB, or just be a sucker to provide dinner and a movie while she looks for her next millionaire.

Before I learned so clearly what she is I would have nailed her to the wall had asked for it…now that I see how devious and cunning she is, I would be apprehensive to even shake her hand for fear of some kind of entrapment.

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