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[tony618Participant 38]

Guys,

As a still non-married member of the herd (I’m in my late 30’s) – I want to say thanks to everyone on this board for taking the time, effort and energy to tell their stories.. I want you guys to know there is a lot of us non-married dudes that appreciate the “reality check” – and giving us the reminders about the risks of saying I do.  I’m a fairly new to MGTOW – but this has really helped me to finally get the courage to tell the family – “its just not gonna happen” –and not feel shamed about it.

Also, want to say that I agree with a lot of other people out there that defend MGTOW as “this doesn’t mean I can’t have a great relationship”. All it means is that I’m not signing a piece of paper that financially puts my b~~~~ in a vice.

So in closing, Happy Fathers day to the guys that make it possible to keep the single guys out of the divorce courtroom as long as possible.

Cheers!!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I had my b~~~~ in a vice …. I didn’t like it very much.

Welcome to the rabbit hole and bring some beer ☺

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

tony618 wrote:

Also, want to say that I agree with a lot of other people out there that defend MGTOW as “this doesn’t mean I can’t have a great relationship”. All it means is that I’m not signing a piece of paper that financially puts my b~~~~ in a vice.

Actually, it does mean that. Do not marry, do not procreate, do not cohabitate. Not your provider, not your protector, not your sperm bank.

This graph rings true for every man with any experience with women. The full article is here:

http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/social-dynamics/the-betaization-process/

Your relationship is going to go to s~~~. It isn’t a matter of “if”, only a matter of “when”. Having a “great relationship” for you as a man, is essentially not being exclusive, doing your own thing, and not tolerating any bulls~~~ from a woman. This means you will only associate with her infrequently for sex. Any longer than that and you are going to slide further down the curve.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

Snake is not kiddin’. The odds of a ‘great relationship’ are like winning the Powerball. So play the lottery instead b/c if you win..you can have a great relationship any time you want.

But let me know how that’s working out for ya, I’d love to hear it.

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

tony618 wrote:

this doesn’t mean I can’t have a great relationship”. All it means is that I’m not signing a piece of paper that financially puts my b~~~~ in a vice.

I’ll add to that list, the constant emotional bulls~~~ games, ongoing complaining, nagging, manipulation and bitching!

Snake wrote:

Actually, it does mean that. Do not marry, do not procreate, do not cohabitate. Not your provider, not your protector, not your sperm bank.

Further, there is an inverse correlation between a committed or worse, cohabitation relationship and a diminishing sex life 😉

I agree, there is no need to go to extremes and cut yourself completely off from women, and live the life of a MGTOW monk. You’re just reducing risk, protecting yourself and your assets in a western world that utterly  favours the poor, innocent female species.

[Anonymous 18]

The slippery slope of if its great relationship why won’t you marry me?

To label something great with a woman you are compromising your position as not-so-great without her. Two sides of same coin. And that my brother is why MGTOW and lovey-dovey can’t co-exist.

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

@iLearn

Very accurate !

 

[experiencedParticipant]

“it’s just not gonna happen”

Thank you for the perfect tempo response. Slowly rolls right off the tongue.

MGTOW naysayers for the most part refuse to acknowledge that the “it” in your response is nothing akin to the “it” of pre-nofault divorce. They ask are you going to do it based on the 1945 and some momentum marriage and you answer with it is just not gonna happen based on the current truthful accurate reality of the situation.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[tony618Participant 38]

So then I’ll put it back to the group..  From a MGTOW perspective what’s the best way to balance that?  So I’ve been in a “casual” relationship with this girl for like 3 months.. After getting on this forum – and having that inspiration to really make MGTOW a decision I told her.  I’m never getting married – but I like spending time with you – if you’re not down with this type of relationship you have with me — then we can stop seeing each other..

She’s still around..

I guess I’m defaulting back to what reality factor was saying – to just protect yourself and your happiness – not cutting woman out of your life 100% – and sticking to that graph.. Cause you guys are right- no matter how good it is now – it will go to s~~~ with marriage

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

@tony618

Couple of possibilities here;

• Deep down this girl believes she will be the one to change you (Kids and cohabitation in the near future).
• Early days for both of you and she will see how it all pans out
• She’s happy to spend time with you until some better option(s) present themselves

An example of a male that showed the bachelor lifestyle for a very long time was George Clooney. This guy dated some women up to 3 years etc. I was shocked when he married again!

We have to realise that at some point in time, a women will not stay with us because of our total lack of commitment. She may find a male that will settle down and give her everything she wants etc. Over a lifetime, some MGTOW will experience deep pain with some of his lifestyle choices but the long term financial loss, child support and other costs associated with divorce is far worse than a girlfriend leaving you. If you have children to a women and divorce, many (women) will be hell bent on alienating the children from the biological father. The fall out from a divorce can be bloody nasty…I’ve experienced it first hand.

A divorce NEVER ends when kids are involved !!!!!

Your attitude towards not being married or settling down is pretty much a significant challenge to a female. Generally, a MGTOW is displaying ultimate male confidence and this is a very attractive male trait. Most males are just needy and desperate….and pathetic when it comes to females.

There are some females that are happy to have a relationship where you both live in separate homes etc. These types of arrangements are rare and the women is typically older and has been burnt in a past married relationship.

Enjoy your woman while the relationship is current. Don’t have the scarcity mentality…there are millions of other women out there, and you can always get a younger better model….they are always making them 😀

If she is a normal, average, typical female. Be prepared for a major “battle” to shift you from your position. This will involve various forms of manipulation, whining, making you jealous and shaming. If all else fails, her fall back option will to “accidentally” get pregnant to you.

Hope this helps

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