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Trump is the only moderate in the race.
Bernie is extreme left wing.
Cruz is extreme right wing.
Clinton is extremely corrupt and dishonest.
I just don’t see Trump as having any views that would qualify him as extreme right wing. Pretty much the only thing that sets him apart from the other republicans other than Cruz is that he wants to actually enforce our immigration laws…but considering practically every other country in the world has better enforcement of immigration laws than us I don’t see how his stance is extreme. Otherwise the only thing he has going for him is he has a big mouth and people are tired of politically correct bulls~~~ going overboard.
If she were to win, then we can finally shut up about the glass ceiling.
Just like a black president was going to make people finally shut up about racism…only race relations are a lot worse today than I remember them being at any other point in my life.
I’m definitely a republican and will remain continue voting for republicans. I can’t stand democrats. They’re all social justice warrior f~~~tards. I do like Bernie Sanders as a person, but I hate all of his political stances. He’s also a feminist. I do like a lot of Trump’s ideas, however, I hate Trump as a person. He’s an asshole. I’m hoping Cruz or Rubio will win the nomination for republicans. If it comes down to Sanders/Clinton/Trump, I’ll vote Trump all the way even though I hate Trump as a person.
If Trump gets screwed with brokered convention – Jesse Ventura will join the race
This is exactly how they screwed Ron Paul 4 years ago.
Enjoy, take CP’s advice and do a little research. The Clintons are beyond the pale. They’re easily the biggest scumbags I’ve seen in over 4 decades of watching national politics and I remember Nixon.
It’s an open secret that Hilary is a dyke. Wellesley, her alma mater, was an all-girls school until about a decade ago and still has less than 3% men in the student body. It’s one of the “Seven Sisters”, which were Ivy League schools for women back when the real Ivies didn’t accept women. Wellesley has also been notorious for over a century as being a lesbian hotbed.
Bill is Hilary’s beard. That’s why she puts up with him f~~~ing anything with a pulse, including underaged girls, and sexually assaulting and harassing other women on a regular basis. Homosexuals needed cover back in the early 70s, especially if they wanted powerful high profile careers and Bill was Hilary’s cover. Hilary can’t come out now because it would expose the decades long lie of her marriage and point at all her other lies.
After Yale Law, Hilary landed a plum job as a staffer for the House committee investigating Watergate. Just how she f~~~ed up, whether it was personally, professionally, or some mixture of the two, has never been detailed but her supervisor refused to write her a letter of recommendation after the committee’s work was over. She was the only staffer not to get such a recommendation and thus missed out on the career boost being part of the Watergate team should have given her.
After that f~~~ up, Hilary found it necessary to leave DC and move to the boonies of Arkansas in order to rebuild her reputation. That effort has been mixed, to say the very least, but it’s not a stretch to say that Ms. Clinton has been the beneficiary of the biggest pussy pass of the last few decades.
Do some research. You’ve several months to make up your mind.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I’m voting for Trump unless the establishment Republicans screw him out of it then it will be John McAfee.
Even if they screw Trump out of it Cruz is next in line. The issues I’m voting on this election are
1. Cracking down on illegal immigration and not giving the leeches amnesty and hooking them up with handout programs like some states are currently doing.
2. Won’t expand the government further and *gasp* might even reduce its size, power, and price tag.
3. Support gun rights.Trump and Cruz are the only ones left in the field who would actually do those things. If the establishment wants to screw them both over against the will of primary voters and prop up a third place candidate they might as well not even bother running for president and just concede the race to the democrats before it even starts.
With that being said…Bernie is the one I’d least like to see win. In all fairness if he does get elected he’ll be a limp dick right from the start because congress obviously won’t support any of his bulls~~~ agenda…but just the thought that someone openly campaigning on being a socialist can make it this far disgusts me. I doubt he’ll win, but considering young voters love the guy, I wouldn’t be surprised if within the next 20 years we’ll have a president in office that is as far left as Bernie. I just hope I’m retired on a beach somewhere by then so I’m not the sucker working to support all the “free” gubment handouts!
I do like a lot of Trump’s ideas, however, I hate Trump as a person. He’s an asshole.
I’m not a Trump supporter but ask yourself this: Do you want an asshole in the White House who shares some of your ideas or do you want someone you like in the White House who shares none of your ideas?
Putting is another way, will you decide on the facts or on your feelings?
The President of the United States needs to know how to be an asshole because nice guys finish last.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
It begs the question(s): Does it matter who’s president? Did it ever?
The presidency is much bigger than any one man.
So is “which one to vote for” really the correct question?“Voting” is just… giving consent to be governed.
I like Trump because he has shown himself to be fair, a fundamental seeker of the truth, and he doesn’t f~~~ around. What’s right matters to him. I also liked Ron Paul for the same reasons. The pretty arguments, policies and “fluff” doesn’t interest me.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous24The thing was that when I was a moderate liberal 8 years ago, I thought that Barack Obama was pure because he was very likable and he was preaching to us all about transparency. After the Snowden incident though, I guess he did not practice what he preached(transparency) and because of that, I do not think that there is such a thing as a pure politician anymore. If Barack Obama is not pure, who is? My brother tells me though that Bernie Sanders is pure, but I have been watching U.S. politics longer than he has so I am more experienced with this sort of thing. He just was not paying attention when Barack Obama was around. This is why I am letting go that Hilary Clinton is not very likable as a person, but I support her policies more than anyone else in the race because I do not expect anyone to be pure, and what makes you think that Bernie wouldn’t be pure after all if he does become president. Then you are stuck with a guy who you thought you like as a person and you do not even support his policies. At least I know where Hilary is coming from and that she is the most moderate of them all. But maybe someone here was bring up something that can change my mind with it all.
If you support Hillary’s policies, you support Barrack’s policies, if you support Barrack’s policies, you support Bush’s policies… They are all puppets man. Nothing has changed really, going all the way back to Bill Clinton… NAFTA, de-regulation of banking which led to global collapse was instated during Bill’s reign. De-regulation of the media as well… Now only a handful of uber wealthy people own almost all media outlets. The Clintons are the dirtiest family in this country that I know of. Pro-corporate/Pro-war as they come. Neocons. The last man that had a chance to actually change this country’s course in any significant way was Ron Paul. He was a 12 term congressman who’s stance can be evidence by his record. He was also the only guy I know of to decline secret service protection in favor of his own. He was anti-fed, anti-bailouts, anti-war.
Notice how zero valid candidates this time around are even talking about ending wars that Obama RAMPED UP after bitching about them during Bush’s reign? It’s like, wait, we still haven’t gotten what we voted for in 08, so you are fine voting for yet ANOTHER insider that has led the charge on all fronts with Obama??? lol This is pathetic.
Anonymous11@beer: Cruz is not exactly loved by the establishment either. The Country would be in better hands with either. I admire both, because neither will back down. I think the establishment would hatchet job Cruz too.
Bernie has no chance. I voted for him because Trump had an overwhelming lead in my State’s polls so I figured I could do more damage to Hilary that way. I know of other Republicans who did the same thing. I would have voted Cruz had it been closer though I will gladly vote Trump if he’s the nominee.
The behavior of the establishment Republicans reminds me of a three year old not getting his way. Bernie is the same anti-establishment sentiment on the other side.
I told my Obama loving Aunt once “The thing I hate most about Obama is that he is three times worse than George Bush.” Her eyes lit up in anger then changed to having a light bulb go off. She voted Trump in the primaries.
The elites are fighting to continue screwing over the Western world. Hilary is their best hope.
Rubio is a Miami Cuban where the politics are as corrupt as any banana republic.
The police are corrupt ,business thrives on bribes.
The city has been sued by the federal government repeatedly police and elected officials have been jailed.
The town needs another hurricane Andrew.
I hate to say it but I think trump is the best of the bunch.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
To imagine that any political choices are made by politicians (let alone individuals would be unwise). Politicians are controlled by special interests groups. Those with power who wish to seek a certain way of living for the common man and more importantly to modern powers how it effects themselves.
Clinton=Goldman Sachs and other big interest groups. Not to mention her hidious actions up until this point. If such actions were down by a common man. He would be in Gitmo. You have to keep in mind Republicans in Washington would rather have her than Cruz or Trump to keep the gravy train coming.
http://realchange.org/hillary.htm
Cruz= Wife works for Goldman Sachs and his father helped place Castro into power. He was for amnesity until he realized that he could gain true power by being the voice of the hard conservative. My guess is the polls will be rigged for him to win.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/ted-cruz-wife-heidi-nelson-works-for-goldman-sachs-loan-senate-campaign-salary-bio-leave-linkedin-college-net-worth/Trump= The wildcard. A good indication that he looks to repair America is that those in power are so heavily attacking him. He has his faults and is among the power. But he does not pay homage to the powers that are. His words speak conservative. But his true actions are of a moderate. Most people cannot see behind the mask. He hurts himself too much at times and thus will most likely not be elected.
Bernie= Is a man who did not hold a real job until he was 40. If you can consider being a politician as a job. His economic policies go beyond the common political idea 2+2=5. To the point of 2+2=10. He tells people what they want to hear to the extreme.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-a-bum-who-didnt-earn-his-first-paycheck-until-age-40/I would say
1.Trump
2.Cruz
3.Clinton
4.SandersHowever, I think Clinton will win.
The social experiment of which the founding fathers questioned. “Can the masses self govern?” is failing. Which is why democracy does not work. Too many people are too easily manipulated that they are oblivious to the game. The illusion of choice is game 101.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
I like Trump because he has shown himself to be fair, a fundamental seeker of the truth, and he doesn’t f~~~ around. What’s right matters to him.
Also pro Trump. The fact that the elites hate him and are desperate to make sure he doesn’t get into power is saying something.
I think term limits on political office is the only senceable alternative.
Our political system was ment for the butcher, the baker the candle stick maker.
What we have now are corporate shills and political hacks with an axe to grind.
None of them are worth a s~~~ and if we don’t manage to change things ,things are going to get nasty sooner or later.
Look a politics in the 3rd world.
Bribery corruption and fanatical backlash.Gangs, guerillas ,drugrunners,insane dictators.
All of them jockeying for position.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Anonymous24Whoever is backed by the most Jewish money shall win. Be prepared for more of the same after Hillary wins. Maybe more gun laws, but other than that, not much different from Clinton/Bush/Obama. At this point the U.S. is nothing more than a subsidiary of Israel…
I told my Obama loving Aunt once “The thing I hate most about Obama is that he is three times worse than George Bush.” Her eyes lit up in anger then changed to having a light bulb go off. She voted Trump in the primaries.
Haha…when I was in school, it was hilarious talking politics with Obama fans. All of them tried to describe what they liked about Obama in terms of George Bush sucking. I’d just agree and say I didn’t like Bush either, at which point they’d just stare at me with a blank expression on their face. It was like they never figured out if Bush was a bad president it doesn’t make Obama good by default, and as soon as you just agreed with them that Bush sucked they realized you weren’t going to bother talking about Bush, and once the conversation was refocused on Obama they also realized the only thing they really liked about him was he wasn’t Bush lol.
The stupidity just amazes me. I tend to lean more republican than democrat, but if the next president is republican and sucks, I’ll gladly say he sucks. If he sucks I’m not going to say he’s awesome because Obama sucks…but then again…liberals hate taking responsibility so no matter how s~~~ty one of their guys turn out to be they can never just be honest about it.
The social experiment of which the founding fathers questioned. “Can the masses self govern?” is failing.
That wasn’t the Founders’ experiment. Being well aware of the historical record, they rightly loathed and feared true democracy so they didn’t establish one.
There’s a well known, but probably apocryphal, story involving Ben Franklin and the Constitutional Convention. The final document had been agreed upon and was being sent to the states for ratification. Crowds were hanging around outside the hall in Philadelphia hoping for news. Franklin stepped out and was immediately accosted by one of those waiting.
“What government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?”, they asked.
A republic, if you can keep it,” replied Franklin.
The US is a republic, not a democracy. Granted, it’s a republic with democratic flourishes and those mechanisms have been gaining in strength ever since Andrew Jackson’s terms in office, but the federal government is a republic.
Which is why democracy does not work. Too many people are too easily manipulated that they are oblivious to the game. The illusion of choice is game 101.
While it’s most likely misattributed to him, de Tocqueville supposedly wrote “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers is can bribe public with the public’s money.”
When Andrew Jackson institutionalized the spoils system at the federal level, the bribery spoke of in that quote began and that bribery has only grown more pernicious with each passing generation. Currently, almost half the US population receives some sort of government handout, pay out, or other assistance from any one of over a thousand programs. Pigs will never vote to cut off the continued flow of swill to their trough.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
The US is a republic, not a democracy. Granted, it’s a republic with democratic flourishes and those mechanisms have been gaining in strength ever since Andrew Jackson’s terms in office, but the federal government is a republic.
Damn right. It’s even documented in The Pledge of Allegiance – June 22, 1942.
“…. allegiance to the flag… and to the republic for which it stands…..”
Interesting trailer on the Democrats I saw only days ago:
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.With a national dept at 20+trillion we have to cut spending. Bush and Obama made it worse and worse.
People are being bribed with their own money.
Meanwhile our government borrows money like a teenage girl high on speed in the mall with her rich daddy’s credit card.
I can think of a lot of ways the US gov could save money.frankly my dear i don't give a damn
sorry, trump is it.
all you guys make good points,but its a scam.
corporate interests will continue to hold power,evade taxes and blame the poor for being poor.
same s~~~, different presidency.
trump will get c~~~-blocked by the congress and the senate like they did to obama.
lobbyist money from big pharmaceuticals speaks real f~~~ing loud.People are being bribed with their own money.
People are being bribed with their grandchildren’s money.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
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