In search for friendship I was tricked by a gay son of a bitch

[DisenchantedBroParticipant 156]

Hi guys, as some of you might know from my intro and then my relapse intro, it’s been a rough journey for me. Navigating how to deal with my sexual urges and trying to stay away from women romantically has been very difficult. I’m in my early 20s and sex occupies a lot of my mind. Growing up I didn’t have a dad or a father figure to teach me how to be a good man, but in spite of dad I consider myself to be a descently masculine dude. My mom tried to turn me into a whimp and successed for a while as she wouldn’t let me play sports or rough it up with other boys my age. She wanted me to be home. In college o was still very reserved and I was honestly afraid of talking to other guys and make friends. My mom had put into my head that men were terrible and that I should be different. But I always longed for having friends. You know, just bros to drink or maybe to play all the sports I never played when I was young. Perhaps I could have found a mentor. Now I understand that only men can teach boys how to become men. Anyway, this got long already. Recently in my journey to try to become a stronger man and really embraced my masculinity I felt I should try to make friends again. I know that I should not tell people about all the material I’ve read thanks to to you guys, but I thought that maybe I could still make some friends, so I don’t feel so lonely all the time. There is this dude at my new job, I work at an office, who was very friendly and seemed cool to be around. We didn’t talk politics or anything serious so I thought he was cool. He had been inviting out for drinks with him and some of buddies. Eventually I agreed. It was a fun night. In the end this guy that invited me got f~~~ing s~~~faced. I didn’t drink much so I volunteered to take him home. Nothing out of the ordinary. Just trying not to be a douche. On the way there he try to grab my crotch and kiss me. I was ducking freaked out. I pushed him out of the car and yelled lots of terrible stuff at him that could be considered bad words. I was so shocked and hurt that I didn’t know how to react. I just felt so betrayed and tricked. Like when I a woman I wanted to date laughed at me for being a virgin. It was a feeling of anger and betrayal. I honestly didn’t suspect this guy, and probably if he had told me beforehand that he like dudes I wouldn’t have made a big deal about it. I would just kept more of a distance maybe. But I felt like he pretended to want to be my friend in order to get close to me for his ulterior motive. He, of course, told some people at the office his version of what happened and now people think I’m homophobic or like a horrible monster. I have nothing inherently against gay guys, but this will definitely make me more doubtful to trust people. It huggles my mind that it’s so hard to just find clean, normal brotherhood. Just like normal guys hanging out being bros shooting the s~~~ and what not. Why is that such a crazy tall order? Each day I feel more and more like we are living in a bizarro works. Like if being a straight, white male is an abomination and everyone else is right and I’m wrong. I don’t want to be a loner, I want to find a Wolfpack to do things with and to have real friendships. Is it even possible in today’s world? I’m always so afraid of making any comments about a woman’s appearance in front of other guys because I feel they will think I’m a monster or like it’s wrong. It’s gotten so crazy that even looking at women or finding them attractive is wrong. Feels a bit hopeless. Sorry for another rant.

[bladeParticipant]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

On the way there he try to grab my crotch and kiss me

I feal sick .

A dude i knew got the s~~~ beat out of him by a shim . He went to return the favor on the drive home from a night club and found it had c~~~ and b~~~~ . He got out the car to beat s~~~ out of it . But it was a fighting f~~~~~ . He had black eye and s~~~ . So beware of the fighting f~~~~~s .

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I pushed him out of the car and yelled lots of terrible stuff at him that could be considered bad words.

He should think himself lucky you didn’t do more than yell TERRIBLE things .

Do you work in California. Lol

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[JVBParticipant]

Brother. It takes a brave man to post this on here and you have my respect. What happened is what happened. You maintained fine bro and I understand you feeling of betrayal. No need for self judgement, just go forward bro and have a laugh. I mean that!!!! ……….when will that ever again happen again in your life ? Never right, f~~~in have a laugh and carry on. Cheers mate.

Peace is > piece.

[bladeParticipant]

JVB wrote:

No need for self judgement, just go forward bro and have a laugh. I mean that!!!! ……….when will that ever again happen again in your life ?

Thats the spirit listen to jvb . You will look back and laugh , it will make for a good yarn . F~~~ that tranny incident didn’t even happen to me and i can look back and laugh . Old mate turning up for a game of footy all f~~~ed up complete with a black eye . We all laughed . He had no shame telling what happened.

Any way about your place of work . Lol

They cant force you into a gay relationship. Tell them to get f~~~ed .

LIVE UP TO WHO YOU WANT TO BE AND NOT WHAT OTHERS EXPECT YOU TO BE .

But what jvb said . In time you will look back and laugh . Turning a negative into a positive .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

Actually bro . Thats pretty f~~~ed of ya work place . Because in reality he tried raping you . If the situation was reversed and you were a chick he tried it on he would be f~~~ed . I would confront the c~~~ about in front of the workers he has spun s~~~ to .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MACHOParticipant]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I’m in my early 20s

DisenchantedBro wrote:

Now I understand that only men can teach boys how to become men.

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I don’t want to be a loner, I want to find a Wolfpack to do things with and to have real friendships. Is it even possible in today’s world?

With each season of our life different challenge test our character and or integrity. It might be possible even today to belong to a decent club or organization… but if it doesn’t happen one has got to keep on walking… because Life and Time are the best teachers.

Mgtow is a blessing for today’s younger men that weren’t fortunate enough to have at least one good male role model. I did look in various places for friendship throughout my life… and found that the best way to make true friends is over a long period of time… the true saying is.. “if you want to have friends become one for others first” Being generous with our fellow brothers without looking for any kind of compensation always brings new unexpected friendship over a certain amount of time.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Gross. I would have approached the situation with a little more tact. He was drunk and you were the responsible party after all. But I do know how shocking it can be when someone you have absolutely NO inclination towards shows those kind of feelings for you. My own f~~~ing SISTER did this to me and she wasn’t even drunk or anything. Looking back, I should have handled the situation with a bit more tact. Sometimes you just react because you’re in shock. No one can blame you for that. It’s time you apologized to the dude and let him know that you forgive what he did because he was drunk and wasn’t in the right frame of mind. Tell him that you hope he can forgive you for acting the way you did because you did it out of shock more than anything else as you had no idea that he was gay. It’s a sucky situation all the way around and I wish I had some better advice to give. But it is what it is.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

I think this is why women will never understand sex. Men don’t see it as just a simple tug and go. That’s why its such a shock when men do this kind of stuff. Why that Marine killed that Trap etc.

This is one of the reasons why I say that love, emotions etc are not just chemicals etc. There has to be something more about it. Otherwise it would not promote such a Nee Jerk Response / Instant response.

For gay men, I can tell you most of them WISH they could be around a man that had emotions close to what straight men experience. But its just how it is. No one ever really gets what they want really.

But laughing it off, that s~~~ does not always work. The s~~~ can be traumatizing. That’s why Milo never wishes any man to be gay. It sucks. (no pun intended)

But brother, do I hear you about the treatment you are getting. Dude, CHeck out Amren. It will open your eyes a bit. Its not a hate site, not that cringy White nationalist stuff. But it will help explain some things about the way you feel. And why YOU should NOT feel that way or even let other people affect your opinion of yourself.

See, white men are in a world that no longer values white values that have taken over 5,000 years to develop. And in the last 100 years, we have been throwing them away like its old newspapers.

See, every fiber of your being is telling you to be honorable, but you live in a world without any honor or valor. The very people who should be giving your praises spit on you.

The whole stand proudly and turn the other cheek s~~~ was only to be practiced among the like minded. You do not live in that world brother. You exist in a world that would happily see you burned alive even if it means their own destruction. They do hate you. Make no mistake about that. They are Jealous of you. And they want to see you go away only so that there is no competition. They are FULLY cemented in a Gynocentric mindset. And you are the danger to that.

The one thing that will help you is that unless you are willing to follow the 51% rule, you may never be able to interact with other people. Find freinds etc.

But for now, wrap your tool, get that Vasectomy, and have a good time with no f~~~s given. Just remember, everyone is disposable. You should treat many of the people you meet like that. Never put stock in people. I know, this sucks, but that is how it works if you want to live a normal life.

THX1311, would be able to help me on this, but I think that is why Jewish and some Asians are so successful. You really have to just not have any real deep emotions about things. Just a want. Or a mission. Or a goal.

That is my thinking on why gay men seem to be able to have the mindsets they have. I think they see the bulls~~~ in life, and combine that with a womens mindset, you start to see why their lives gravitate the way they do. Hashtag Not all of course.

Lets face it. Men have been robbed. And we are all now having to deal with a world that no longer cares or values men on their true gift they poses. And I am sorry, but its those men that Posses the higher cognitive thinking. Its not unique to whites, but you have to understand, that most people just don’t have this “spark.”

I know this is some Cringe , but the Nazi’s thought that Intelgince was a think they called “Spark” from what I have been able to gather. This is the reason why you even feel the way you do. Not everyone has it brother. Just deal with it. You are made for a better higher purpose. But just like women, their gifts are no longer useful.

As a Solider of true valor, you would have been invisible. But in our world today, there is no great conquest to dedicate your life to that is easy to find. You must find something that meets your convictions that make YOU HAPPY.

But the bad news, it may take till you are about 35 to figure this s~~~ out. Maybe even 40.

Watch this man. It may help you not give a f~~~ about what other people think.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

DarkRyu wrote:

Gross. I would have approached the situation with a little more tact. He was drunk and you were the responsible party after all. But I do know how shocking it can be when someone you have absolutely NO inclination towards shows those kind of feelings for you. My own f~~~ing SISTER did this to me and she wasn’t even drunk or anything. Looking back, I should have handled the situation with a bit more tact. Sometimes you just react because you’re in shock. No one can blame you for that. It’s time you apologized to the dude and let him know that you forgive what he did because he was drunk and wasn’t in the right frame of mind. Tell him that you hope he can forgive you for acting the way you did because you did it out of shock more than anything else as you had no idea that he was gay. It’s a sucky situation all the way around and I wish I had some better advice to give. But it is what it is.

Clearing my throat here… HOLY sheet.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

blade wrote:

Actually bro . Thats pretty f~~~ed of ya work place . Because in reality he tried raping you . If the situation was reversed and you were a chick he tried it on he would be f~~~ed . I would confront the c~~~ about in front of the workers he has spun s~~~ to .

NO..

This is NOTHING you should Confront or deal with. Remember, We live in a place where gays are protected class. Anything he does will go back to f~~~ him over.

Best thing to do is pretend to be a victum at work, and shrug it off. Nothing good is going to come dealing with this. It is a total FUBAR.
If the f~~~ers trying to start s~~~ at work, Do the HR route if you have to. Remember, you may be dealing with a BITCH mindset. Protect yourself and do not engage.

Play whatever Victim card you have when s~~~ rolls your way. Again, remember the gay guy has the edge here. Anything he says will get sympathy. So be careful!.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

JVB wrote:

Brother. It takes a brave man to post this on here and you have my respect. What happened is what happened. You maintained fine bro and I understand you feeling of betrayal. No need for self judgement, just go forward bro and have a laugh. I mean that!!!! ……….when will that ever again happen again in your life ? Never right, f~~~in have a laugh and carry on. Cheers mate.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

No matter whether you want to remain friends with this guy or not; in order to protect yourself, you should let him know that he sexually assaulted you.

You can tell him you’re willing to let in go, but he had better not try to bring harm to you or your reputation.

Put it in writing, like and email or text so you have a written record of the statement and any further reactions from it.

[Anonymous 12]

@bstoff

but if one sexually assaults you – can you still be friends?
there is no more trust…
so how is friendship a viable option?
nothing to do with male or female – assault is assault.
Cut that gay Dude’ s Dick off for not knowing how to use it.

i mean… it is just a slippery slope that will lead to the same situation once more.
send that dude to hell – before he tries again.

selfpreservation .
common sense.
logic.

[Anonymous 12]

@disenchantedbro

better alone than around such pigs.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Don’t make friends at work nothing good comes out of it. You are wise to understand never to take any advice from a woman they don’t know what it is like to be a man. Start an exit strategy where you currently work it will not end well for you he is plotting to get you fired somehow now do not trust anyone at work they are on his side. If you really need to keep your job for whatever reason I would suggest you report the incident to HR but know they may still side with him as he is gay.

I want you to understand this very carefully. What happened to you is NOT your fault you did nothing wrong and consider this a learning experience.

True story that happened to me when I was 17 years old a guy I knew in his mid 20’s invited me over to his house to watch a “movie”. We were standing outside with a bunch of other people but he only asked me to come. I knew him for over a year and thought nothing of it so I agreed to go to his place which was not far from where I lived walking distance wise. We get there and he pops in a video cassette (this was back in the mid 90’s) and up on the T.V. starts a porn film.

He proceeds to whip out his dick and start masturbating and asks me if I like what I see. He was a sexual predator just like the guy you were with the same situation occurred and I handled it the same way you did when I tried to leave. The only reason it didn’t escalate further was because someone knocked on his door and it was a 2 friends both he and I knew. The guys knocking on the door asked around where I went from the other friends that we left earlier and figured out what might be going on because it happened to them too. Later that night I asked them if they ever had this guy do this to them and they both gave each other a knowing look and nodded. We never spoke about it again amongst ourselves but I made sure to warn others never to go alone to his place and the word got out and he eventually stopped hanging out with us. Had these two friends told me about this guy I would have never gone to his place to begin with but I understood their embarrassment as to why they never said anything because I felt the same way. Almost felt like it was my fault I put myself in that situation but it wasn’t and neither is it your fault for what happened to you.

This is the world we live in today I understand you feel lonely and want friends to hang out with. He was playing at being a chameleon he has had a lot of practice at this but don’t let this discourage you. Find a hobby you like and go out and meet people in a group that way like a sports for example. You said you like sports there are community centers that cater to a variety of sports you can look into joining group leagues I found some good friends from doing sports related activities that way in my 20’s. Eventually some will get married and you will have to understand that you will no longer be their friends it is just the way it is. You can get a pet although know you will have to take care of them and clean up after them but they bring great companionship. Dog or cat you can’t go wrong in this regard.

One other thing I want you to remember this is a great quote:

I hardly have any friends anymore and I feel great about it sometimes it is not worth it to have blue pill friends you will learn this as you get older. We are here to help you are not alone thank you for sharing your story.

[DisenchantedBroParticipant 156]

Thank you guys for all the advice. The situation is complicated because as many of you pointed out, everyone is on his side, which is crazy and angers me. One thing I know I did wrong is that I called him a “f~~~ing f~~~~~” when I was pushing out of the car. I know that’s seen as something horrible, but it seems that me calling him a f~~~~~ was worse than what he did. Since it didn’t happe at work I don’t know if HR is a good route. I’m trying to let the situation die down, but I do feel like a pariah. I know people see me as homophobic now. It just felt so ducking wrong when he tried to bust that s~~~. Since I’ve never had it, I’ve always seen brotherhood and friendship between men as something sacred. I watch a lot of War movies and shows about the army and I’m always impressed at those guys, their loyalty, and how they stick to their word. It feels none of that matters anymore. Seems like only gay people matter and that being straight is weird now. And then something like this happens and I’m the one that’s seen as a monster. WTF. I just wanted some friends that’s all. Just regulars straight guys to be bros with, nothing more. Everywhere I go I feel like I’m committing a crime if I look at a woman’s breast or ass, like I feel paranoid. Of course I never verbalize any of my thoughts on women because I’m scared someone will accuse me of harassment, but then some dude grabbing my crotch is okay? F~~~ no. I’m angry. I feel like this dude saw my vulnerability and took advantage of me wanting friends. How f~~~ing low is that. Instead of being a friend, he does that. I feel like gay guys are almost as bad as women. I don’t want to generalize but it seems like it.

[MACHOParticipant]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I’m trying to let the situation die down, but I do feel like a pariah. I know people see me as homophobic now.

Don’t let it get to you too much! remember that there’s always a silent majority (as they say) that won’t say much but might be on your side. Don’t start Paranoying .. and thinking that everyone is against you or that the whole world has become a total hell!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Aroused By Her AnguishParticipant 343]

Man! That’s happened to me three times already, at least the times I can remember. The most recent time, a DOCTOR did it to me! I was never his patient. I had just known him for a little over a year. He wanted to hang out with me. I said, “Okay. We can go somewhere in public”.

He agreed. A few day later when the time came, he said, “I’m too tired from work. Just come to my house so we can watch a movie”.

So he tricked me with a “bait-and-switch” tactic.

While the movie was playing, he started rubbing on my leg and head and saying that I am “cute”. I was SHOCKED, especially since he had an ex-wife and two children! I grabbed a pillow and placed it between us. I never spent time with him again.

If he would have been open about it, I would have said, “Okay. We can hang out, but I’m not attracted to men.” Since he tricked me, I no longer have respect for him.

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