I'm quite the jaded cynic.

[EleventhEarlofMarParticipant 98]

It seems fair to attribute my current views on marriage to my upbringing. I was raised by a mother who slipped in an anti-male attitude here and there, who was abusive on several levels, who did some things too graphic for ordinary conversation, who was a resentful wife (though I think her husband had some to do with that too), and just in general an unpleasant person. She struck me as mentally ill, posing as caretaker one hour and abusive woman the next. In retrospect, it could have been worse, but I attribute much of my relation al dysfunction to she who bore me. With her actions, she taught me to see the worst side of females, and to look for landmines associated with the wimins. It seems impossible to undo what she did.

I wanted to get married when I was younger and have three children of my own. Life issues seemed to get in the way of that. I don’t like the idea of being by myself a lot of the time, but my trust in women for any intimate relationship is pretty non-existent. Thirty years ago it was possible to find someone who wasn’t poisoned with all the feminist garbage we get thrown our way. Now, I question if it’s even possible. Anyway, just my ramblings for the morning.

[AutoliteParticipant]

EleventhEarlofMar wrote:

I was raised by a mother who slipped in an anti-male attitude here and there, who was abusive on several levels, who did some things too graphic for ordinary conversation, who was a resentful wife (though I think her husband had some to do with that too), and just in general an unpleasant person. She struck me as mentally ill, posing as caretaker one hour and abusive woman the next.

You’re not jaded, you’re just honestly acknowledging the reality of the situation.

My own mother was particularly nasty too. I won’t go into details here because most of you wouldn’t believe me anyway. Suffice to say that she would have been sent to prison had she been found out.

I really think that my own father wasn’t even fully aware of what she tried to do to us kids. He was a BP simp and he was pretty much blind to what really went on.

I’m not saying that my childhood influenced my MGTOW attitude but it certainly didn’t do anything to endear me to married/family life… 🙁

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I guess I have to finally tone down my vocal hatred and racism towards Arabs and Muslimes. Muslims. Iam now renting a room to a young Egyptian male who is a Doctor/Medical Student. LOL. Pretty nice guy actually. Hopefully he doesnt kill me in my sleep. LOL But yeah, I guess Not All Muslims Are Like That. Time to show him that Im not a souless infidel either, be generous and friendly. The beauty of it is that he is basically going to sleep and study… Not that bad of a Tenant! Thanks to Brain Pilot who recommended putting a Room Rent ad up in a Medical School. easy money.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Iam now renting a room to a young Egyptian male who is a Doctor/Medical Student.

I’m not sure how comfortable I would be receiving medical attention from someone who really believes that a prophet flew into space on a winged horse.

Dawkins and Krauss discussed this once during one of their talks. Krauss thinks that a person’s religious beliefs has no influence one’s professionalism. Dawkins sees it differently…

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I guess I have to finally tone down my vocal hatred and racism towards Arabs and Muslimes. Muslims. Iam now renting a room to a young Egyptian male who is a Doctor/Medical Student. LOL. Pretty nice guy actually. Hopefully he doesnt kill me in my sleep. LOL But yeah, I guess Not All Muslims Are Like That. Time to show him that Im not a souless infidel either, be generous and friendly. The beauty of it is that he is basically going to sleep and study… Not that bad of a Tenant! Thanks to Brain Pilot who recommended putting a Room Rent ad up in a Medical School. easy money.

1.8 billion of them, the % radical ranges from 5 to 20 depending on the article. If you take even the smaller number 5% of 1.8 billion-> 90.000.000 is a lot of living ticking time bombs.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[MonkParticipant 16985]

Autolite wrote:

I’m not sure how comfortable I would be receiving medical attention from someone who really believes that a prophet flew into space on a winged horse.

In my experience, religion goes out the window with surprising speed when it’s a question of money.

Consider how many corner stores are owned by Muslims. They shout about their religion when it suits them, but sell alcohol and lottery tickets, both of which are forbidden.

[MonkParticipant 16985]

EleventhEarlofMar wrote:

… I attribute much of my relational dysfunction to she who bore me.

Echoing Autolite – you are not ‘jaded’ or ‘dysfunctional’. You got burned at an early age and your subsequent experiences only served to confirm what you already suspected.

[MonkParticipant 16985]

Autolite wrote:

My own mother was particularly nasty too. […] I really think that my own father wasn’t even fully aware of what she tried to do to us kids. He was a BP simp and he was pretty much blind to what really went on.

My experience also.

I’m not saying that my childhood influenced my MGTOW attitude but it certainly didn’t do anything to endear me to married/family life …

My familial experience made me very wary, something that only grew as I got older and observed what was going on around me.

I married much later in life because I didn’t want to end up chained to a harpy, the way my father did.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Monk wrote:

Autolite wrote:

My own mother was particularly nasty too. […] I really think that my own father wasn’t even fully aware of what she tried to do to us kids. He was a BP simp and he was pretty much blind to what really went on.

My experience also.

As an adult, I have only told my story to a couple of friends who I trusted and I knew trusted me. I will admit that the story is actually pretty hard to believe so I’ve kept it mostly to myself my whole life.

Had I spilled my guts as a little kid when it actually happened, I am absolutely certain that nobody would have believed me back then…

[EleventhEarlofMarParticipant 98]

Autolite wrote:

EleventhEarlofMar wrote:

I was raised by a mother who slipped in an anti-male attitude here and there, who was abusive on several levels, who did some things too graphic for ordinary conversation, who was a resentful wife (though I think her husband had some to do with that too), and just in general an unpleasant person. She struck me as mentally ill, posing as caretaker one hour and abusive woman the next.

I won’t go into details here because most of you wouldn’t believe me anyway.

It’s ok if you don’t wish to share this here, but I would likely believe you. I’ve read plenty of people’s accounts over the years of some mighty harrowing events in their lives, and I really don’t have any reason to doubt them. Some of these survivors of abuse are my friends.

[EleventhEarlofMarParticipant 98]

Monk wrote:

EleventhEarlofMar wrote:

… I attribute much of my relational dysfunction to she who bore me.

Echoing Autolite – you are not ‘jaded’ or ‘dysfunctional’. You got burned at an early age and your subsequent experiences only served to confirm what you already suspected.

Burned at an early age. I like that verbage, simple and clear. It’s totally true.

It seemed my mother had it in for me right out the gate. I talked to a therapist once, and he referred to her as “dissociating.” I know what it means, but it seems like an understating term for the damage her “dissociation” caused.

[AutoliteParticipant]

EleventhEarlofMar wrote:

It seemed my mother had it in for me right out the gate. I talked to a therapist once, and he referred to her as “dissociating.”

My mother hated us kids and she wouldn’t hesitate to make that known! She couldn’t have children of her own so we were adopted because my father wanted kids. She just went along with him because he was her meal ticket…

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