I’m not going to school for IT.

[Anonymous 0]

I would post this in career but put it here. I looked into it and have no love or passion to sit at a desk for ten hours of my life staring at a screen. I love outdoors, travel, meeting new people, also want to be my own boss. I’m going for film/photography. I’m really passionate about these fields. I been online everyday looking into how to be successful in these fields. I never in my life was so passionate about something that all I can think of is doing this. I would to make films about Mgtow, life, society, documentaries on on people. I really feel I can be successful. If I failed at least I can say I tried and did my best. That’s what being Mgtow mean.

[Anonymous 0]

good luck brother, don’t let anything get in your way!

Thanks will do my best.

[numbCruncherParticipant 772]

Anonymous wrote:

If I failed at least I can say I tried and did my best. That’s what being Mgtow mean.

Go you own way, brother, and good luck.

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[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Good luck. Do what you love. Just remember that you have to feed yourself too.

I’m a computer engineer by education, but what I love to do is write fiction and play piano. I can code well enough to pass my classes, but, unlike a lot of guys here, it certainly isn’t a passion, and I don’t want to spend the rest of my life doing it. Whatever job I get will be to support me while I’m not working, so I’ll have something to eat while doing what I love.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Anonymous wrote:

I been online everyday looking into how to be successful in these fields.

Just curious, can you tell us what you’ve learned in short form?

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[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

I wish you all the luck in the world. It would be great if we could all earn a living doing something we love. The reality though is that we need money. We have to do what is going to put $$$ into our bank accounts. Even if it means doing something we really are not passionate about.

I used to think that I HAD to do something that I loved. Something that I would look forward to doing each day and getting paid for it. Reality has set in at this stage of my life all I want is a job that 1. I can handle without being stressed and 2. something that is steady.

It is a shame but it is the cold hard reality for me. I would like it if you succeeded in doing something you truly love. But you also have to think about practicality. IT will pay you well and it would be a very steady career ( I would think?).

Just something to think about.

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[RoyDalParticipant]

There are people who make decent livings as travel writers and photographers.
There are magazines devoted to travel and websites too. Someone has to provide their content. That someone could be you.
My dad and two of my oldest friends have a serious case of travel bug, and they subscribe to those magazines, which explains my exposure to the genre. A trip to your local library should arm you with enough information to figure out what the magazines want, need, and are willing to pay for.

Edit: I just thought of another friend. Last I heard (years ago) he had quit his high salary corporate drone job (really high, top 1%) and gone to Antarctica to count pinnipeds. I wonder how he liked it? I can say for certain he did not like sitting behind a desk shuffling paper.

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[Anonymous 0]

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

I wish you all the luck in the world. It would be great if we could all earn a living doing something we love. The reality though is that we need money. We have to do what is going to put $$$ into our bank accounts. Even if it means doing something we really are not passionate about.

I used to think that I HAD to do something that I loved. Something that I would look forward to doing each day and getting paid for it. Reality has set in at this stage of my life all I want is a job that 1. I can handle without being stressed and 2. something that is steady.

It is a shame but it is the cold hard reality for me. I would like it if you succeeded in doing something you truly love. But you also have to think about practicality. IT will pay you well and it would be a very steady career ( I would think?).

Just something to think about.

Yeah my mom and dad are both doing what they love doing for a living. Also 4 of my sisters is doing the same thing. If they can do it so can I. You can too. How much money you really need to live the life you want? You can do it.

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

I would like to add, I am the son of two parents who tried to be artists. Tried to “follow their passions”. I’ll tell you what, you will very VERY lucky to get anywhere doing that. My father is working as a handyman now, barely making it and my mother just mooches off him. I help him when I can, but most of his work is solo.

I would suggest finding a well paying career and making your art your hobby. Especially in this day and age, when its hard to make a living taking even the safe paths.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

Budtao wrote:

Tried to “follow their passions”. I’ll tell you what, you will very VERY lucky to get anywhere doing that.

Excellent point.
A female friend of mine recently quoted that popular myth that her time staying home raising a kid and washing dishes was worth 30K a year or something. I had to ask her “But, to whom?”, and suggested that she give herself a raise right away. She then admitted that she wanted to do it. It was what she loved.
Following your passion sounds noble and romantic, but you stand to be pretty poor if your passion doesn’t pay well. I think FUND your passion would be better advice for most. Find something you can be good at that will feed and clothe you first, or your life may be pretty bleak. You don’t have to sell your soul for money. It’s true that money isn’t everything, but it is a f~~~ing LOT! Passion alone won’t pay the septic tank guy.
I hear artistic types talk often about how underpaid they are. Tough titty! History shows that artists can rarely make a dime. The problem is a lack of functional value to the art produced. Just because a picture took 6 months to paint does not mean anyone will pay you 6 months of a living wage to paint it. That takes years of building a reputation that adds value to your art because YOU did it. The same applies to music. Chances are you’ll have to work. It makes sense to work at something you do well enough to command a decent wage, so you can afford a better accordion and a home studio and to buy back some of your time.
If you think you would be good at something, and can make a living at it, don’t think of it as selling out. You can think of it as a way to buy back the time you need to pursue what you really want to do, and to improve yourself.

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[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Even if you wanted to get into coding, going to school would be a waste. I have made a comfortable living as an independent programmer now for going on 16 years and my only “formal training” was an intro course in Pascal that I dropped after three weeks.

Having said that, I agree with Bunker Mode… I often tell people “do what you can so that you can do what you want”. In other words, find a vocation that will pay your bills and allow you to fund the lifestyle that fulfills you and makes you happy. And if they can be the same thing and you can prevent the getting paid from ruining the joy of it, all the better.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Neither choice is good.

First of all, the IT industry has been over saturated for at least a decade. The average income for a tech has dropped down to $35k. To make things worse, companies are moronically liquidating their IT departments and moving over to the “cloud.” Absolutely MORONIC! 1 natural disaster, data center goes kaput and every company in north america goes with it. Yup, that sure is smart!

As per the film industry… STAY THE F~~~ AWAY!
The people in that industry… HOLLY F~~~ING S~~~! I can’t stand even being near them for more than an hour!
I’ve been apart of two movie shoots so far, and F~~~. I can not stand them. Both movie shoots i had to rage quit in the middle of them.

Take your average mangina… now multiply that two folds and add on a huge ego. That is EVERY GUY in the movie industry!

Then, take your average feminist… you know that “independent woman” who absolutely does dick f~~~ing all but cry!
and then make her feel like she is the only women in the world, like she is a super model with 100 guys waiting to just talk to her… and That is EVERY WOMAN in the film industry!

Seriously lol. Stay the f~~~ away from the film industry.

The level of entitlement that those people have is just so sickening.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[JasonParticipant 282]

@GodEater: Do what you feel resonates with you. But, like some others havep ointed out, don’t expect to make a living off of it, initially. Instead, either take a part-time (or full-time) job that you do along with your passion, or work for a time first to build up a buffer of money that you can live off of when pursuing your passion. With effort and a bit of luck, eventually you might make a living off of your passion, but don’t count on it from the get-go.

@Doc-Fenderson: Oh, yeah? I’ve just taken a pause in my web development studies at university due to stress (lots of factors, not just the studying itself), but your experience says you don’t actually need an official degree to get a decent paying job in IT? I know that, at least here in Sweden, IT remains one of the few fields where employers care more about your skills than your degree, but I don’t know how easily I could find a job given the growing saturation of the market with people with degrees… Even if they end up sucking, they still tend to go first in line for employment opportunities, after all.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Jason wrote:

your experience says you don’t actually need an official degree to get a decent paying job in IT

My experience may be a unique artifact of the particular time and place I was in, San Francisco in 1996, during the transition from CD-ROM to online was pretty much the epicenter of the whole commercialization of the Internet.

In that time and place, pretty much anyone who had their own email address (much less domain name (of which I had several from my days managing a NeXT server at the University of Texas) could get a job and have opportunities to work with cutting edge techniques for major companies and brands.

I can’t really say what it’s like for people starting out now, but I still believe that you can tach yourself more by putting together a portfolio project than you can learn from an IT or design school.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Good luck man !

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[JasonParticipant 282]

@Doc-Fenderson: Fair enough. I’ll definitely take it into account. Thanks!

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

With respect get a film minor and do something as a major that you can fall back on.

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