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I’ve been coming across alot of threads of new members here and in reddit that still hold their self worth to what women want. this guy is PUA bulls~~~ter but his right about alot of things in the video, and his rather funny in his expressions. if you still have an ounce, a trace of doing anything even a little toward pleasing a women, listen to this, it’s disgusting. f~~~ the game, f~~~ women and f~~~ relationships. imagine putting all this effort, work techniques and time toward your career or hubby, instead of wasting it on leeches, u’ll become happy and successful in no time, it’s a win win but with dem leeches it’s a lose lose no matter how you calculate it, they suck your best and give you misery. f~~~ that. do what you want, and stop giving a s~~~ about what leeches want.
it just appeared in my youtube feed, don’t know how youtube linked it with MGTOW videos.if you don’t want to watch it TL:DR all women = gold digging whores. anything they do or any guy their with or girl they do it for resources.
The Truth Of What Women Want But Will Never Admit, Even To Themselves…
OK this guy “Tyler Durden” is a f~~~ing poser joke with his chipmunk voice and he even used to be fat. First time I heard of him, chubby was speaking in a David DeAngelo video about “body language” and how it “communicates weakness” to speak with your arms folded at the elbow… and he was doing it the WHOLE TIME!! I was laughing my head off.
Then I saw him PERSONALLY coming out of an apartment yakking on his phone dressed like a $2 sailor, in a horizontal striped top, cargo shorts and white vans. Believe me , a woman wouldn’t give him a second look,… and he proved it because we were going in the same direction. I was about 20 paces behind him and he was invisible to every woman that passed.
I have DUMPED better women than he could even imagine jerking off to.
I also saw him again recently and now he’s sporting a full massive beard as some kind of statement . . . but whatever the statement, it’s definitely not “what women want”.
ONE DAY soon I’m gonna see him again, and I may decide speak with him if the mood hits. Maybe I’ll teach him how NOT to “approach women” at all…. and just motion them over instead. His mind will be blown and I’ll tell him a MGHOW taught him how to pick up chicks.
Loser.
PUAs attempt to convince you that after studying “what women want” – as opposed to what they SAY they want – that game isn’t about (and solely about) giving women what they want. It’s a stifling, worthless expenditure of make vitality.
The first time I ever heard of “PUA” was around 2006 when I got an email asking “Are you afraid of talking to women?”….
And all I could think was “No . . . . . are YOU?”
What’s this? A COURSE in how to approach and speak to women?
Are there any courses on how to peacefully get RID of her?
Are there any courses on how to get a woman to shut the f~~~ up?
Because that’s far more valuable information.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.It’s the last part of the blue pill life MGTOW’s hold onto i think. Even if they have no plans on ever dating again, they still desire to be “presentable to women”, or have something women want, so they can kind of rub it in their face that they have something that the female can’t have.
I even struggled with this for a long time, and i still try to look presentable, and aquire materials i want … but it’s now for the sole purpose of keeping my job, and enjoying quality in a product (example: the most comfortable pants might cost me more, but it’s worth it because of the comfort and fit).
I have realized what women want, and what they perceive, is completely meaningless. And i’ll add to that by saying, the approval of other men, is also completely meaningless, because their approval of me, is 100% tied to the approval of the female collective hive.
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very interesting. lool his chipmunk voice indeed, he should’ve went into voice acting though. would have made more success.
if you ever talk to him in person I’m interested to know how it goes.
also I must say that I appreciate the fact that you reply to almost every topic created in the forum. it’s part of the reason why I like to post here more than reddit.In the end he is the very same manipulative douche bag any gold digger is. His focus on life is woman. He makes videos thinking and valuing himself by woman. He claims to know about woman. He is trapped into trying to figure out woman.
What he won’t admit is he is a slave to women.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
also I must say that I appreciate the fact that you reply to almost every topic created in the forum. it’s part of the reason why I like to post here more than reddit.
Right back to you – for posting an inspiring / relevant topic. I rarely create my own because everyone brings interesting & relevant stuff.
n the end he is the very same manipulative douche bag any gold digger is. His focus on life is woman. He makes videos thinking and valuing himself by woman. He claims to know about woman. He is trapped into trying to figure out woman.
What he won’t admit is he is a slave to women.
What he won’t admit –>> is how PUAs attempt to perpetuate and exploit deliberately cultivated insecurities in other men.
He’s not in a position to “teach” anything – or anyone.
He asks “Are you thirsty?”, and then pretends to have some “secret way” of getting a drink water available from any tap – and then charges you for the information. He’s a f~~~ing embarrassment scam.
GONE is a 3-hour course on “how to approach women” the very minute a man realizes he can just look at a woman he wants to talk to and say “come here for a sec” with a simple hand gesture – or 5 little words.
Now women are approaching YOU.
… teaches no PUA ever.He’s a pussy worshipping suck-ass that chases tail , cares WAY too much about “what woman want” , becomes whatever he thinks that is, and gets less than he can afford to admit.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.It’s the last part of the blue pill life MGTOW’s hold onto i think. Even if they have no plans on ever dating again, they still desire to be “presentable to women”, or have something women want, so they can kind of rub it in their face that they have something that the female can’t have.
I even struggled with this for a long time, and i still try to look presentable, and aquire materials i want … but it’s now for the sole purpose of keeping my job, and enjoying quality in a product (example: the most comfortable pants might cost me more, but it’s worth it because of the comfort and fit).
I have realized what women want, and what they perceive, is completely meaningless. And i’ll add to that by saying, the approval of other men, is also completely meaningless, because their approval of me, is 100% tied to the approval of the female collective hive.
Great post
I agree with you and I have zero interest in women on a relationship basis but can, on occasion, find myself falling back into that trap. It doesn’t take long for normality to be resumed and I ignore any of those feelings, but all of us are dealing with years and years of social brainwashing that has come at us at us from all angles so it can be hard to deprogramme
PUAs look for female validation. This is one thing I can’t ever get on board with.
Frankly, I don’t need anyone to affirm who I am. I know who I am. It is as simple as that. If you want to approach a woman, grow a pair, and just do it. If she rejects you, then f~~~ her. Move on to the next one.
In reality, most women aren’t worth your time. Not the other way around. When the wall smashes into them head on, they will jump at the opportunity to have you.
Besides, who gives a f~~~ what they think? Women don’t have much of a brain anyway.
What do women want?
What they want is two things:
1) A wallet beta
2) A Chad Thunderc~~~Notice how these two desires aren’t anything of substance?
That’s because what a women wants is irrelevant. You could give them the world, and it still wouldn’t be enough.
So again, who f~~~ing cares?
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
PUAs look for female validation.
This is the sole reason why I stopped reading from and listening to them.
Their contents consisted of things that made me keep saying “bulls~~~!”.
They’ll be talking about how you should touch a gal on her elbows and s~~~, How to stand and hold your drink when you’re in front of a girl, how to smile, how to calculate the number of seconds you’ve been using to chat with and talk to a girl and the right things you should say during those seconds.
After I healed from my last relations~~~, all I wanted was to live my life with *whoever* (because I still believed that I was SUPPOSED to be with a female) without putting any form of effort into it i.e. be myself.
And then someone was on my computer screen telling me that I should be counting seconds and be singing choruses to a female?
For what? her smile (at least)? and/or her meathole (at most)?
Who the f~~~ has time for that?!
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.
Anonymous11“Are you afraid of talking to women?”
Actually, I am quite leery of talking to women. I’m very good at it too.
Any lurkers who think we are idiots for saying that one should not link one’s self worth to women’s banal desires are in for some rough sledding. Women should not link their self worth to men’s wants either. This especially applies to Chads.
And then someone was on my computer screen telling me that I should be counting seconds and be singing choruses to a female?
F~~~ what they have to say. PUAs are part of problem. They give these gold digging slores validation, and enable their s~~~ty behavior. No different then refusing to discipline a brat. This is why women should be treated like children.
I had a cousin who is a PUA, and he gets plenty of ass. However, he never settles with any girl because he knows just how fake they are. I’ve seen him pass on some literal dime pieces. My cousin is an tall, dark, and handsome. The exact bulls~~~ girls all say they want… Well the secret to making them want you if simply NO F~~~S GIVEN (NFG).
With NFG, women tend to conflate this with being an asshole, thus making them wetter than the Niagara Falls. If you simply don’t give them what they WANT, they will WANT you. Women LIKE assholes, and they WANT what they can’t have. NFG allows you to satisfy both quotas.
Women has a whole, are nothing but a contradiction. Cognitive dissonance is an innate part of their fabric. AWALT!
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
With NFG, women tend to conflate this with being an asshole, thus making them wetter than Niagara Falls. If you simply don’t give them what they WANT, they will WANT you. Women LIKE assholes, and they WANT what they can’t have. NFG allows you to satisfy both quotas.
Never a truer statement.
The more I MGTOW the more they approach me.
I don’t need to touch their sleeve because they are to busy touching mine.If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
I love the replies, each adding valuable piece of info. I have difficulty doing multiple quotes with names. so I’ll just tag.
@keymaster
if you start a topic by yourself, it will always be at the top of the forum and each new topic will be shadowed by it 🙂 so I get why you don’t do that much.@Opt Out
being presentable and doing things to further your own self is what MGTOW is all about. and those usually align with what women want. for example going to the gym, playing an instrument, accumulating wealth etc all these are stuff that one can do cuz he wants to do and at the same time, women would be extremely attracted to you when you do them.
now say you hate the gym and you like reading books instead. and you decide to go to the gym just to impress a girl. or you became a Dr just to impress girls while you wanted to be a mechanic, this is where the problem is. down the line if you don’t get the girl and when things go sower you will regret doing those things cuz even though they are good for you. u only did them to impress her. so being presentable goes in line with girls being attracted to you.@jim01
it’s hard to deprogram, infact I would say that one can reach a low point of not even wanting to continue. but it has to get worst before getting better, my value system has to collapse before I can rebuilt it myself from my own experience and not others propaganda. and once it does ur completely free, and u don’t give a s~~~ anymore. talking to women becomes something that is so unimportant that you outperform any PUA out there. if you want to do it. a MGHOW has the carelessness golden card in his hands. and he just deals it every time he wishes. so for MGTOW we’re way above all this. like a spaceship free from gravitational forces of society and women but if neeeded and if it serves us then we descend into their airspace have some fun and blast our thrusters full again out of their planets forces. granted we don’t get close enough so we don’t hit by a SAM and AA. we have to be skilled pilots.@akanbi
we don’t have time for that indeed, getting women is not rocket science. do whatever the f~~~ you want and they will become naturally attracted to you by default. if not f~~~ them. either you no f~~~s are given. NFG FTW.@chauvinistpig
alot of them do think we’re idiots, but as you said they don’t know us. we know the game, all of it, along with the cheat codes. I’m sure alot of MGTOWers here can relate but we can read people and women within a few seconds from meeting them. knowing what their all about. and 90% of the time we’re right. we stop while other guys continue, and we’re standing there observing while thinking. u fool! ur in for ahell of a ride. grabbing popcorn and enjoying the fireworks.@mgtow Knight
I completely agree. I also can relate I have a cousin who is a player, but his a fool. his also a habitual lier, he tries to pull lies on me all the time to inflate his status in front of me to feed into his insecurities but I call him up on it.
it’s funny but they act like the women they chase. he has a very fragile ego, he demand constant attention, and he goes crazy if I ignore him. his basically full of it, he knows it and it makes him more insecure.and yes the more you don’t give a f~~~ doing your own thing the more they want you. like wild beast, untamed and just out there in the wilds. women sees that and want to grab that rare breed. it’s amazing all my wishes from bluepill days is now coming true after I’ve waken up. and I don’t want those wishes anymore, very paradoxical if thats the right word to describe it, it’s very amusing.
@frostbyte
bro. when you a MGTOW the only thing you need to keep touching while you are with a women is your crutch to make sure she doesn’t highjack your sperm and your wallet. and nothing else!I apologize for the long rant haha. live strong guys.
Is this Tyler guy for real? Holy f~~~, that’s a snake oil salesman if I ever saw one. This PUA crap is nothing more than the art of pretending you’re NOT catering to women, even though you are. Utter nonsense.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, “not giving a f~~~” isn’t something you can fake. It has to be legitimate.
Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!
PUAs and mangina’s are both pathetic pussy beggars. The only difference is the PUA looks her in the eyes when he pussy begs, and the mangina stares at the floor.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
A woman will never fall in love with your confidence, posture, tone etc… You can not and will not subvert 500,000 years of human biology. I was in a PUA lair many years ago. Like some I began studying David DeAngelo, Mystery, Style etc… I did cold pickups with other guys at bars back in 2007-2010. Most of the other guys were not even average dudes but very socially inept. I’ll tell you what happened:
My confidence in talking to strangers greatly increased.
My fear of being rejected decreased.
My social skills increased.
The number of phone numbers increased.The number of flakes, blowoffs and rejections increased dramatically.
The number of dates stayed roughly the same.
The number of lays slightly increased.
I got one girlfriend I met at a bar who dumped me after 6 weeks when she went back to her ex boyfriend of a year.
My results from online were a million times better. I was able to pre-qualify if the woman even liked me to begin with before wasting time chatting up or hitting on a complete stranger in a noisy club.
Sure you might get to bang a drunk bar slut IF you are lucky, and that is a big IF. Clubs, bars and attractive women on Tinder are for Chads and Daddy Warbucks ONLY.
If PUA actually worked they would show average normal guys successfully meet women in bars, clubs, online and get into longterm relationships. Not a one night stand but a legit long-term relationship with an 8, 9 or 10. Notice these PUA gurus never show their results with average to below average looking or poor guys over the long term. It just doesn’t happen.
You will never make them love you if you are not a Chad. “Love” is a temporary emotion given in exchange for resources and physical characteristics for mating purposes.
Remember gents,
“What’s in a name?
That which we call a Chad
By any other name would smell as sweet”One of my all time favorite novels growing up was Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy by John LeCarre. For those who don’t know it, it’s a story about a mole hunt in the British secret service. The hero is an unassuming man by the name of George Smiley who is a pudgy man and an spy master with sharp mind but a horrendous home life as he is married to a woman whom he loves ,but she cannot stay faithful to him. In the novel the protagonist is played by a KGB spy master who is only known as “Kala” and his operative a man by the name of Bill Hayden who is the mole but on the orders of Kala seduces Smiley’s wife so that Smiley would not see him straight. In the novel LeCarre explains Smiley and his relationship to his wife as “the last illusion of the illusionless man.”
As Opt-Out points out, that appearing presentable or still maintaining your self worth to what women want for a MGTOW is really the last illusion of the illusion less man. As MGTOW’s we have no more illusions of the “sweetness and gentleness” of the opposite sex and we certainly have no illusions of the system setup to rip your heart out through your ass. For younger MGTOW’s the want to still be accepted by the opposite sex is simply the last illusion.
PUAs and mangina’s are both pathetic pussy beggars. The only difference is the PUA looks her in the eyes when he pussy begs, and the mangina stares at the floor.
and their failure rate is massive. with our lifestyle we are able to achieve both. living our lives according to our terms and be happy. and at the same time women dig that ( but it doesn’t matter to us anyway, and that make them dig it more)
If PUA actually worked they would show average normal guys successfully meet women in bars, clubs, online and get into longterm relationships.
You will never make them love you if you are not a Chad. “Love” is a temporary emotion given in exchange for resources and physical characteristics for mating purposes.it doesn’t work, PUA success rate is very poor, that and women in bars and clubs are whores anyway. even for bluepill standards, you can’t expect anything long term from a girl who goes to clubs, bars alone with girls.
maintaining a long term relationship is possible. and it’s all about cost/benefit analysis, is it worth all the effort? at this point even if a girl comes with 100% loyalty guarantee and is even well behaved. do I really want to take that responsibility?. for what sex? …. sex is nice but is extremely overrated, affection and closeness?! the closest moments of bonding where experienced with my guy best friends. and they appreciate it. I never recall sharing anything personal or embarrassing with any of my previous GFs.
children? yes I want a kid. but I want the mom out of the picture. so at this point I would rather direct all that effort and energy toward advancing my education, career and hobbies cuz the return is way higher and better. even if she was a NAWALT I no longer want to put the effort anymoreAs MGTOW’s we have no more illusions of the “sweetness and gentleness” of the opposite sex and we certainly have no illusions of the system setup to rip your heart out through your ass. For younger MGTOW’s the want to still be accepted by the opposite sex is simply the last illusion.
we don’t anymore, and women are delusional for lying themselves into believing their gentle and sweet, their more savages than men. look how they treat each other!.
the system is not unfair everywhere, here the system is not biased, but still it’s not worth it, too much work to maintain a relationship with them. it would be cheaper and easier maintaining a 1980 Lamborghini, driving it every single day. than maintain a relationship with a women, it’s tiring you always have to monitor and regulate their behavior, like little children, except children appreciate and genially love you. and eventually grow up and lead their own lives. u’ll have to monitor the way she dress, act, do. so she doesn’t f~~~ something up or end up cheating on you. it’s tiring, not only the system. the whole thing is rotten. feels good to be single, happy and worry free. career and work worries pale in comparison to the worries of being in relationship or marriage.Tried using PUA tricks and they sucked. MGTOW all the way.
Tried using PUA tricks and they sucked. MGTOW all the way.
Focusing on yourself is like a laser beam focus. It’s truer and more precise. Always on target. Red hot accuracy. You cut through life and improve with every watt of power used.
When you focus on woman, PUA tricks or anything that takes away from your self-focus, your beam is just scattered light bouncing randomly. It’s easy to for others to deflect, bend and manipulate it.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
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