If The Military Draft Was Gender Neutral

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

If there was a military draft for young men AND women in the USA, I wonder how many women would support it or refuse to fill out the selective service form. To me, drafting a bunch of women during a war would be the ultimate s~~~ test for them—to see whether or not they really want gender equality.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[EntropyParticipant 902]

The problem is the burden would still be on the drafted men due to the utter ineffectiveness of females in uniform.

The ultimate result would be a FAR weaker army.

There IS a reason women aren’t drafted, don’t serve in combat roles, and aren’t really even expected to contribute to their own general safety-

They are complete s~~~ at everything.

Women are the ultimate liability.

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[Anonymous 12]

Historically speaking women were never expected or drafted to fight because a nation can lose a large percentage of it’s men but providing it’s women are retained it can bounce back by making more babies.

Now days though you may as well throw women into war as they aren’t having kids anyway nor are men wanting to have kids with them.

To answer the question though, not many women at all would support women being drafted and the ones who do would be women who know they would never get drafted themselves due to their positions or health or whatever else.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Exactly. This is why women will continue to be held to lower training standards and excused from combat and will never be subject to compulsory service.

A society that treats its women as disposable resources will not survive. Sorry fellas, it sucks but this is the natural order of things. Female nature, male nature… it’s our nature. Until the sexual differences between men and women have been completely erased by technology, women will never be held to the standards as men, nor should they be… not in war or at work or anywhere.

Haven’t we figured this out already? It’s not even worth discussing.

[Anonymous 25]

The military draft was part of an agreement historically agreed between men and women to ensure the survival of the species. Men would protect women and in return women provided certain benefits to men.

Women decided to call this Patriarchy.

They tore up the agreement. The military draft went with it. Any invaders ladies and you are on your own.

They can send me to jail, but I will conscientiously object. They have to catch me first though as I will probably just skip country. Any money I have will be kept in disposable assets that can be quickly converted into spendable value in any other country.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

yup, there was a tacit treaty, men worked and died protecting women and kids.

In return men got sex and respect.

Now, men are opressed, marginalized and taxed into oblivion to support stupid, arrogant c~~~s.

I want to see feminazis blown to pieces just like men, in wood boxes.
They wanted to be equal to men, then they can die like disposable tools like men have allways been.

[bob__Participant 946]

Women would just get men killed. A woman goes out of her foxhole at the wrong time and gives away the position of her unit. Then the enemy sees that and fires artillery to that area. And then a bunch of men get blown up.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

bob__ wrote:

Women would just get men killed.

Precisely. This is what it means to be a disposable utility. We can’t expect women to do our jobs because they’ll just f~~~ them up and create more work for us to do or get us killed.

Even if they have broken their end of the deal, even if they insult us, even if they hate us and do everything they can to destroy us, we still have to do what we have to do… because it’s who we are.

We don’t have to bend and scrape and bow to their every wish and we don’t have to give them anything they haven’t earned, but we can’t simply let go of the reigns and let the horses run wild, either. Giving up our responsibilities to spite women would mean anarchy, the collapse of civilization and our own doom.

That we continue to keep society afloat is not for them, it’s for us. If they benefit from it in some way then so be it. The alternative is good for nobody.

[MarcusAurelius2Participant 27]

American women want and have in the USA and many other nations political authority (the right to vote) without the concomitant political responsibility (military service). The same is manifestly unjust and oppressive towards men.
The following is the URL of a webpage from the Men’s Rights online site The American Gentleman, entitled: “Feminism and National Defense”:
http://amerigentleman.blogspot.com/2014/12/feminism-and-national-defense.html
It describes how feminism has denigrated the US Armed forces and their effectiveness and argues that there should be a reasonable relationship between the right to vote (political authority) and military service (political responsibility).

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

MarcusAurelius2 wrote:

… there should be a reasonable relationship between the right to vote (political authority) and military service (political responsibility).

Service Guarantees Citizenship

Do you really want to live in a country where only members of the military and veterans have the right to vote?

Talk about unintended consequences! Honestly, quit trying to muck s~~~ up with half baked schemes like this and just come out and say it… ‘Restore the Patriarchy, Disenfranchise Women! Vote for the Blowjobs and Sandwiches Party!’

At least it would be intellectually honest.

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