If SHTF and you are planning to exit the matrix.

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

The government put in place FATCA in 2010, which forces you and any financial institution you deal with as a US citizen to report to the U.S. Government all of your financial gains and details (assets, holdings and property), they will also double tax you for everything, Most foreign banks will not want to deal with you because the U.S. government has steep laws and regulations in place and they will penalize any institution in any country that reports about you incorrectly.

The Matrix is growing desperate as more single mothers rely on the government after screwing over their men, if you have a fall back plan which includes a second citizenship or leaving the homeland well you have to understand that surrendering your citizenship might be the last option, the government will continue to impoverish their people in and out of the mainland.

Americans who live abroad are abandoning their citizenship in record numbers since 2009 (go figure why), the government increased the fee for you to surrender your citizenship from about $450 to $2,350, you will also be hit with an “exit tax” if they find that you have a lot of cash on you that they haven’t stolen yet on the way out. You also have to keep in mind that the government lies about everything whenever they put out numbers, so the numbers shown in this article could be way more than what they are actually reporting.

Even if you are a dual citizen you might have to throw away the blue passport since FAtCA will come after you once you have been earning a decent amount of income.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/060515/why-people-renounce-their-us-citizenship.asp

Since companies like IBM that lobby our government don’t care who works for them as long as they do it for cheap, they will continue to hire record numbers of foreign workers, the job market situation will only get worst.

More visas, More immigration, higher taxes, higher property value, higher medical cost, etc.etc.etc.etc.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/28/new-york-times-digital-ibm-now-has-more-employees-in-india-than-in-the-u-s.html

OH but the economy is BOOMING! LMFAO, Sadly the oppressed sheep will be outbred or they will leave their own country in droves.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22558]

If the SHTF and the economies around the world crash, the local governments will point to the foreigners living in their nations as the scapegoats to blame and seize wealth from.

Without the U.S. military existing to threaten the rest of the world from harming U.S. citizens, any U.S. citizens in a foreign land will be easy pickings. Especially, since they will likely not be armed.

[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2146]

I’m heavily invested in silver and lead.

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The beautiful thing about not having all your income come from payroll is its much easier to put yourself in a low tax bracket. The beautiful thing about leaving the country is most other countries are far cheaper to live. If I leave the country, I don’t see why I’d need to give up my citizenship. I could, for example, go live in Ecuador. 40k USD in capital gains would let me live far more comfortably than 40k USD would here, and I’d be in a 0% tax bracket anyhow…why give up citizenship?

Maybe its different if you plan on working abroad long term, but if you just want to save 1-2 million in a mix of pre and post tax accounts, can take advantage of capital gains tax rates, and you just want to GTFO, you can put yourself at a 0% or low single digit % effective tax rate…might as well just hang on to the citizenship, its worth having the option to come back if WWIII breaks out, or if we have an economic SHTF scenario where ever you end up might end up worse than here.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

US citizen or citizen of the US is a voluntary office in the federal Government that you should give up.
Unless you are Dependant on a federal check you should go private and exit the matrix.
They cannot force you to give up your nationality just because you give up being a voluntary
servant to the criminal federal government.

citizen= voluntary servant or federal office holder and an exclusively public person with no private rights.
Only better than being a slave because you did a volunteer by remaining silent. and ignoring your duty
spelled out in the declaration of independence.

I studied the law here. The government agrees that everything at this site is true and correct.
They agree by silent acquiescence the same way the government gets your consent to be serviced
instead of served..

They put your hand in the public cookie jar and say its your duty to pull it out and be exclusively private.

The constitution was written as a limiting document, designed to limit government regulation of private people.
Only private people have rights..

No citizen has rights because they are all part of the general public and are subject to public policy, or policing
for profit. The government services the public while serving the private.

SEDM.ORG

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Faust For Science wrote:

If the SHTF and the economies around the world crash, the local governments will point to the foreigners living in their nations as the scapegoats to blame and seize wealth from.
Without the U.S. military existing to threaten the rest of the world from harming U.S. citizens, any U.S. citizens in a foreign land will be easy pickings. Especially, since they will likely not be armed.

Historically the U.S. has used its military might to put other countries in their place whenever they want to threat the SWIFT payment system, The system the U.S. uses to dominate the financial world, everything trades in dollars and if the economy begins to unwind most countries will still buy dollars to stay safe.

If you have family abroad, let’s say you are a white American with family in New Zealand, then you can blend in with the locals, if you are Hispanic the same story applies in a Hispanic one, however if you want to stay in the U.S. in case you Don’t have family internationally or other safer bets are impossible, then you should buy led, find a group of friends or family (pack) and find a place outside the city centers where you can take refuge, accumulate ammo and food, etc..

However i am going to say that its far safer to stay in a country outside because the locals will be too busy toppling their own government than trying to find some pesky American in their cities, while in the U.S. you will have federal agents knocking at your door telling you to hand over all your valuables or draft you for the impending war.

I mean its up to you, this is the age of the cowards since its so easy to get rid off people with guns, no valor in that when your life can end in an instant, the government knows who has guns and who doesn’t, they also know what you have bought of value and how to get it.

Beer wrote:

The beautiful thing about not having all your income come from payroll is its much easier to put yourself in a low tax bracket. The beautiful thing about leaving the country is most other countries are far cheaper to live. If I leave the country, I don’t see why I’d need to give up my citizenship. I could, for example, go live in Ecuador. 40k USD in capital gains would let me live far more comfortably than 40k USD would here, and I’d be in a 0% tax bracket anyhow…why give up citizenship?
Maybe its different if you plan on working abroad long term, but if you just want to save 1-2 million in a mix of pre and post tax accounts, can take advantage of capital gains tax rates, and you just want to GTFO, you can put yourself at a 0% or low single digit % effective tax rate…might as well just hang on to the citizenship, its worth having the option to come back if WWIII breaks out, or if we have an economic SHTF scenario where ever you end up might end up worse than here.

Another guy gave some good points as to why you should not give up your citizenship, well ask the people that lived abroad why they gave it up when the Vietnam war broke out, lol, For example now days if you want to go to Europe you have to get a visa even as an American today, The visas are generally cheaper with a Dominican Passport which in my case i have one.

The benefits of learning a new language and have multiple citizenship outweighs Any plan you may have, in the end its about having more options in a survival type of situation, ask the Germans that moved to South America they will say that they had no choice, it was either military tribunals in international courts or to live in some jungle, They chose wisely.

[AutoliteParticipant]

I’ve traveled a little bit but only in North America and Europe. In a SHTF scenario, I really have no idea where it would be best to go. It is most likely that I would stay put and remain where I’m at…

[Anonymous 38]

Hopefully I’ll have purchased my home in Hungary and I’ll just go live there. A relatively safe haven for red pillers.

[Branched offParticipant 10969]

The more the matrix starts to falter in its relentless “progress”, the more it will try to screw every last drop of resource from its slaves. It depends on us to fuel it. It will die without us.

There is no easy exit. If SHTF then you are going to need more than yourself and some guns. You are going to need good men who have your back while you have theirs. Man is a small group hunter, not a solo hunter. We can hunt solo but we need the group. If we try some agriculture this becomes even more important. If you want to jump ship and change countries do it before SHTF. Make friends where you go. Make good long term contacts. Become valued as a good man.

Don’t jump when the s~~~ starts, then it is too late. You can go to the hills but not travel far to do it. You need to stay with your own tribe but stand apart form the weak and worthless who will perish. Prehistory and recent history is littered with tribes. There are no primitive cultures that have ever been found where men lived solo or in single family groups that were not part of a wider tribe or clan. That is modern big daddy state territory. When big daddy cuck state finally bleeds to death, it will be back to the old ways. To think you can survive in a tribal landscape alone is a modern fantasy. Mad Max will just run out of fuel and no one will sell him any because he is not in their tribe. He may be shot in his sleep. He may die when he gets a minor infected cut and there is no one to nurse him, he may starve when down on his luck.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

The reality of a shtf event is this fight or die. In this overpopulated world there is no place to run. West Texas population a few 100 right now, shtf you would be only one of thousands and you are still faced with fight or die. John Doe had to bug out fast and only got his AR15 and a few dozen rounds. John is faced with correcting that fast or die.
The only real place you could survive a shtf event is the swamps. Few known them well enough to live and thrive.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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