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I vote, but I have no illusion that I’m voting for anything other than the lesser of two evils. I have no problem with those who chose not to vote because they don’t see an acceptable option. What’s bothersome is those who don’t vote out of laziness and then complain about how bad things are.
I understand that voting for lesser of two evils is pretty much just postponing the inevitable in a way. I suppose I still hold out some hope that issues can shift to the point where actual changes can occur.
Do I want women to loss suffrage? Not really. Besides that being extremely unlikely, it surely wouldn’t take and women eventually would regain their rights and we’d end up with the same problems all over again.
I don’t think voting is really the only solution, but rational thought and principles is. This is what saves individual MGTOW today, and will continue to be the solution going forward.
Take marriage laws for example. Will voting for politicians that won’t even considering changing them do anything at all? Nope. If man are choosing not to marry in vast numbers, will that cause changes? Maybe. Either women and the government will consider negotiating terms or they will go the other way and attempt push us into marriage. The latter won’t work though and push us further towards a reset.
Ok. Then do it.
Vote? Why? I have never voted, look at the brits… They voted and….
Voting means nothing, dont waste your time.
Change laws? Why? Wold you get a gf or a wife if law changed? Becouse i woldnt, modern laws does not affect me at all, why wold i want to change them?
Women rights? Give them all the rights and a few left, i rather die not caring than live giving a f~~~.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
The balance of men and women of voting age is about equal. Laws are the problem. The laws we have now are a direct result of more women voting than men. The old saying of “I only have to pay taxes and die” is wrong. Its “I only have to vote, make my demands known, pay taxes and die”
Register to vote and vote.
Stop draft dodging tax avoiding white girls from voting and deny them any political platform.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
no wonder things are in the crapper. when even here a vast majority are not willing to stand up and give it a go.
Shaming language is not going to get you far here, mate.
I suggest you try the MRA recruitment pitch on one of their sites.
Going your own way is more about self actualization, not about trying to save a society that is clearly going to go down in flames.just an fyi, I call it like it is all the time, just ask around.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Who should have voted the men?
The feminazi or the rich-born three-times married (and therefore beta cuck) man backed by tradcons?Your problem in USA being the two parties system.
There was the almost ideal MGTOW candidate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_JohnsonSelf made man.
After his divorce he learnt the lesson, and he refuse to marry his actual partner.
In his program there was the end of alimonies, and even “paper abortion” for men.You can’t have him, because the two parties system.
The two party system in the US is bulls~~~. It is binary. No different than a one-party system where you vote yes or no on a particular candidate. George Washington warned against the formation of political parties. We didn’t listen.
Just like we didn’t listen to Ike about the Military Industrial Complex. People are f~~~ing stupid.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Democracy DOESNT WORK !
If threes could vote, they would vote for the axe, because it handle is made of wood, so “he is one of us”.
If pigs could vote, they would vote for the man with the bucket that gives them food, no matter how many pigs that man killed because “if he didn’t fed us, we would die ! He is a hero”.Voting is a big lie, exterminate your government, it is the devil that created the laws that f~~~ed your life, it become too big to control, it tries to impregnate every moment of your life, from life, death, marriage, license for anything, taxes, etc…
The problem is not man voting or not, is accept that the government can decide something for you.
Don’t let them rule you, don’t let them dictate what is right and what is wrong.The majority is willing to trade their liberty for security, and they always lose both.
Refuse do be controlled, refuse to fund this s~~~ show, the lower social position in society are occupied by not-wealthy-males, mid class, lower classes, homeless, etc…
Why in the hell such important members of society are threated like that ? Because society create a “fake reality” where a fat feminist blogger appears to have a hight status than a bus driver. The same society that will send you to fight a war to protect it, will turn its back on you as soon as they don’t need you.
This kind of society is what we built, the natural laws aren’t like that. If that was no laws, do you think that c~~~s would do 10% of the s~~~ that they do ? metoo wont even be a thing ! Divorce ? She can sure get her s~~~ and go away, but won’t be cops making taking you from the house that you bought and dragging you into the jail because of a lie that she told them.Let’s have an anarchy, I would rather on my own, than be kept as a slave by the state and murdered when they see fit.
When you feel tired and want a day off, remember brother that taxes are the price that you pay to society so it can keep fat c~~~s living better than you on welfare
You’re overlooking the men who vote for the waaaaaaamen. There are a lot of weak-spined simps cucking hard with the vague hope of maybe getting one pee-pee touch. It’s not an insignificant bloc of men.
Good point !! Remember “vote for trump get dumped” ?
I have given my life to the spirit of the only man I can trust.
in doing so I have moved into a constitutional Monarchy where Jesus is my
King,Savior and Husband. My constitution is my Bible..
I am forbidden from influencing earthly politics.But lord “the people want a king.” I gave em one once and they hung him
Why I don’t vote.
I don’t vote. I have never taken part in an election and I never will. To many, the idea that someone who actually cares about what is happening in the world would refuse to vote seems incredible. The common sense of the democratic state tells us that voting is the way that we can change things and that those who don’t vote are apathetic. It has even been said that those who do not vote shouldn’t complain.
But common sense often hides a great many unquestioned assumptions. This is certainly true with regard to the commonplaces about democracy and voting. I hope that by explaining why I don’t vote, I will expose some of these assumptions and raise a few questions.
If my refusal to vote sprang from apathy, obviously I wouldn’t take the time to write this. In fact my refusal to vote stems from a desire to live in a certain way, a way that requires a radical change in the social structure of our lives and the world. As far as possible, I try to confront the world in which we live in terms of these desires, acting toward their realization.
Put briefly, I want to live in a world in which I can be the creator of my life, acting in free association with others with whom I feel some kinship and whose presence I enjoy in order to make our lives together on our own terms. The existing social order consists of a global network of institutions that stands in the way of the realization of this desire. This network includes economic institutions, not just the corporations as such, but also the entire system of economic exchange, private and state property, and wage labor – the institutions of capitalism. It also includes government, law, the police, the military and the social bureaucracy – the institutions of the state. These institutions define the conditions of our social life, forcing us into roles that uphold and reproduce the institutional order. My desire to create my life on my own terms places me in rebellion against these institutions. If I find others with a similar desire and we join together in collective struggle for its realization, that is potentially revolutionary.
In order for the ruling institutions to exist at all, they have to take away our capacity to create our lives for ourselves. They do so precisely by directing our energy into activity that reproduces the institutions, and selling some of the product of this activity back to us. This theft of our life’s energy means that the social order and those who hold power in it are objectively our enemies, because they have made themselves our masters. This is why class struggle is an inevitable part of this social order. But subjectively, we become the enemies of this society when we decide to take our lives back as our own and begin to act on our decision.
Having made this decision, what would voting mean to me? First of all, let’s consider the kinds of choices that appear on the ballot. All of these choices can be reduced to two questions: 1) who do we want to rule us? and 2) with what rules do we want to be ruled? These questions themselves already assume that we should not or cannot be the creators of our own lives, that we should give our ability to decide and act over to others who will determine the conditions of our lives (or uphold those long since determined by the global social order) on the basis of pre-existing rules. But a ballot doesn’t even present these two questions in an open way that allows the voter to choose freely. This would be impossible since election officials couldn’t possibly manage to go through a series of essays in which people described what they wanted even within the limited framework of these questions. So instead we are given a few candidates to choose between for the various elected offices – individuals who want to exercise power over other people, whether for “the common good” or out of crass self-interest –and ballot measures on which to vote yes or no. The candidates and ballot measures are presented to us by professional politicians, people who have the time and money to determine the questions that they are willing to let us vote on. None of this will ever call the ruling order into question, since the electoral process itself assumes the necessity of this order.
So voting is nothing more than choosing which of the masters among the few on the ballot that the voter would prefer to be ruled by and deciding which of the potential rules presented on the ballot for managing this master/slave relationship s/he would like to see them use. Since the democratic process is based on majority rule (with a few notable exceptions, such as the use of the electoral college to choose the president), one’s individual “choices” will not, in fact, determine what sort of servitude s/he will experience. Instead, the “choices” of the majority (as determined by election officials) will determine this for everyone.
In short, voting is not taking action, nor is it taking responsibility for one’s life. It is the very opposite of this. When people vote, they are saying that they accept the idea that others should determine the conditions of their life and their world. They are saying that others should determine the limits of the choices that they make, preferably simplifying these choices into mere either/or decisions, quickly dealt with by a simple momentary gesture. They are saying that they would leave the responsibility of taking decisive action to others. In other words, those who vote are saying that they are content to leave their lives in the hands of others, to refuse the responsibility of creating the life they desire, to avoid the task of finding ways to directly make decisions and take action with others of their choosing that could lead to a real transformation of social reality. So every voter would do well to ask themselves if this is what they mean to say.
I want to make my life my own. I want to find others with whom to create ways to freely act together to directly determine the conditions of our lives on our own terms, without rulers or institutional structures defining our activity. In other words, I want to live in a world without masters or slaves. Therefore, I do not vote. Such desires could never fit in a ballot box. Instead I do my best to create my life in revolt against the ruling order. I talk with others around me about our lives and about what is happening in the world in order to find a few accomplices in the crime called freedom. And I act, alone when necessary and with others when possible, towards the realization of the life and world I desire and against the ruling order and the misery it imposes on life everywhere.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
I’m only forty, so I need the system to hold together for another 30 years. As a result, I have to vote in hopes that my rights aren’t trampled any further than they already are.
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Ja[H]x wrote:
I’m only forty, so I need the system to hold together for another 30 years. As a result, I have to vote in hopes that my rights aren’t trampled any further than they already are.Do not worry the system is not corrupt and will not be changed.
The evil corrupt administrators of non-Justice will be punished in the hot sun oops lake of fire.
People are under the impression that this republic system is at fault.
No the system is only as corrupt as its administrators..Some Good men are working behind the scenes to leave them with no plausible
deniability about being a criminal.Some federal Judges in every state are gonna be stepping down or taken out..
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Some good men?
Wtf that even means?
Good for who?
Is a psycho murderer and torturer good or bad?
What if you need to tortured another psycho who stole a nuclear war head?I am good? I am bad?
Is all bulls~~~, if i get f~~~ed up enough im going full carnage, it doesnt matter, im going to die anyway, why not go down with a wicked smile and a happy face?
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Your right Carnage all men are Good or they are just selfish Human beings..
I cannot answer your question unless I can look in your eyes while in the spirit of my father..I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Your right Carnage all men are Good or they are just selfish Human beings..
I cannot answer your question unless I can look in your eyes while in the spirit of my father..Good and bad just means “convenient for me or not”
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Democracy: 2 wolves and a sheep get a vote over what they are gonna eat for dinner.
carnage wrote:
Good and bad just means “convenient for me or not”Moral or immoral or good or bad would be established not by your actions, but by your intentions and has nothing to do with convenience. Some go to great length to steal the future time of life of others by unlawful acts that are far from convenient but are hidden in obscure legality..Everything is legal in a lawless society..
DOES NOT MAKE IT LAWFUL JUST BECAUSE ITS LEGAL. Public policy is immoral.The secret small hidden door leads to an exclusively private life and out of reach
of public policy.. To privatize your person (personal identity) Give it to someone
else out of the reach of the public authorities. Give it to the spirit of death since you claimed he was your god and speak in all public matters as the spirit of the grim reaper. By becoming a slave to death you have given up all authority to
what is eventually inevitable. They cannot get authority from carnage if every time they try, you show up in the spirit of your chosen God and claim the highest authority known to mankind over the flesh.I love this approach because its no lie:
That we all have to die.
My flesh will most certainly meet your God…My spirit will live forever in the hearts
of all faithful believers…I am the spirit of life as well as friend and MGTOW brother to the spirit of death…Yes my heavenly father is laughing out loud..
Some fathers (at least their spirit) will
live again in the donated flesh of their
children..I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Anonymous0I read the replies kinda shocked there were any.. But my point is politicians and their staff look at voter data all the time one thing they see is there are far more female registered voters but don’t really know how many of them voted or who they voted for. Even with detective work searching for what sex voted for what is pretty hard..
But they know one thing and thats give women what they want because they know they will most certainly loose the election if they don’t. When politicians look at register voter stats they see men are nothing to work for or worry about. If more men just registered to vote but never vote that can get politicians looking at how to get those votes.
I see and hear guys complain and point out how the laws are unfair. They are unfair because of the higher female registered voters numbers.nowigetit wrote:
I see and hear guys complain and point out how the laws are unfair. They are unfair because of the higher female registered voters numbers.I love our system of law, and never said it was unfair..
The administrators are unfairly administering statutes which are
not laws for private people, but company policy for public officers.Registered voter is an office in government.
Licensed driver is an office in government.
resident is an office in municipal government.
laws are written to keep the public from being
a bully and come against the private people..
Private people are not the proper subjects
of statutory laws.
NOT SUBJECT= NO subject matter jurisdiction.The Government= all public officer “SERVANTS” not “MASTERS”
I would like to see all females servants then I would mark all the servants
so I would know who are elected to serve me and who I could boss around..
Who I could blame and make responsible if I am not happy.
Who I could punish at will..
All female elected “SERVANTS”Love and respect
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
I read the replies kinda shocked there were any.. But my point is politicians and their staff look at voter data all the time one thing they see is there are far more female registered voters but don’t really know how many of them voted or who they voted for. Even with detective work searching for what sex voted for what is pretty hard..
But they know one thing and thats give women what they want because they know they will most certainly loose the election if they don’t. When politicians look at register voter stats they see men are nothing to work for or worry about. If more men just registered to vote but never vote that can get politicians looking at how to get those votes.
I see and hear guys complain and point out how the laws are unfair. They are unfair because of the higher female registered voters numbers.What for?
Why do you wanna change the laws?
They dont affect me at all, i should i waste my time and effort on something that has no meaning to me?
Divorce rape? DONT MARRY
DV Charges? Dont live with a woman.
Unfair family court? DONT HAVE KIDS.
Sexual harasment at work? MIKE PENCE RULES.Most of the problems you complain are easily solved by doing nothing and ignoring.
Or what? You sex drive animal instinct is soo great you cant stop?
Are you the rapist kind?
If all women dissapeared from earth, are you the kind of guy who wold turn gay?Just relax ok, the world is ok, there is nothing to fix.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Anonymous3Voting for representatives doesn’t result in policies and laws benefiting the voter’s interests. If that really was the case, the laws would all benefit the middle class and poor, and not the super rich who are a very tiny fraction of the voter base.
Voting only legitimizes an illegitimate system and silences opposition through ad authoritarian logical fallacy. You either voted so you should shut up and vote differently in the next 2/4/6 year election, or you didn’t vote so shut up. The choices don’t matter, but shut up.
MGTOW should not be so stupid that they fall for this nonsense. If you’re stupid enough to buy the farce of political theatre, you should just get married and then shut up. Pick one of the two sides, which are both essentially the same, and pretend you’re a part of it and everything makes sense and worked out because your side is in power (or it would if your side isn’t in power).
Voting for representatives doesn’t result in policies and laws benefiting the voter’s interests. If that really was the case, the laws would all benefit the middle class and poor, and not the super rich who are a very tiny fraction of the voter base.
Voting only legitimizes an illegitimate system and silences opposition through ad authoritarian logical fallacy. You either voted so you should shut up and vote differently in the next 2/4/6 year election, or you didn’t vote so shut up. The choices don’t matter, but shut up.
MGTOW should not be so stupid that they fall for this nonsense. If you’re stupid enough to buy the farce of political theatre, you should just get married and then shut up. Pick one of the two sides, which are both essentially the same, and pretend you’re a part of it and everything makes sense and worked out because your side is in power (or it would if your side isn’t in power).
At first, this was hard to swallow. But I understand it. I do think there may be some hope for the future. But overall, I know that there is very little that can be accomplished by law. Or voting.
I still feel good that Trump was voted into becoming president. But, as I recall he did not win the popular vote. So actually, you are correct.
Its Just a very hard pill to swallow.
Still, Voting is not all about the ballot box. There are other ways to have your vote count. Basically, like the few do.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
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