"I will not respond to "hi" messages"…yeah right.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

mark wrote:

narwhal wrote:

So yes, if a semi attractive woman with a decent profile puts effort into contacting me, I’ll probably respond. If a very attractive woman with a good profile says hi, I’ll probably respond.

But that is not what we are discussing here.

If you specifically write in your profile “do not contact me with just a hi” and someone does that, just because she is pretty are you going to break your own rule?

As I wrote before, the most beautiful goddess can come to my profile. If she has kids, she is GONE. Not for a f~~~. Not for a relationship. Not for me peeing on her.

Its a matter of principle.

So your issue isn’t so much that she has rules, but that she published the rule and then broke it? That I understand. Besides the fact that she won’t follow her own rules, no one is going to pay attention to them anyway. All it does it make her look like a stuck up bitch.

There is a big difference between…

Don’t contact me if you are not race XXX

and…

I typically only date within my race.

Really, stay away from anyone who focuses on the negative.

Who in the fk are these women to be picky? They’re the ones who are single!

[TaxGuyParticipant]

mark wrote:

narwhal wrote:

So yes, if a semi attractive woman with a decent profile puts effort into contacting me, I’ll probably respond. If a very attractive woman with a good profile says hi, I’ll probably respond.

But that is not what we are discussing here.

If you specifically write in your profile “do not contact me with just a hi” and someone does that, just because she is pretty are you going to break your own rule?

As I wrote before, the most beautiful goddess can come to my profile. If she has kids, she is GONE. Not for a f~~~. Not for a relationship. Not for me peeing on her.

Its a matter of principle.

Good for you Mark, and please don’t think I was picking on you. All I am saying is Most guys are like that…. They can have a rule, but if she’s hot they will break the rule. Especially since the hi thing is a silly rule.

Let me put it this way. When I say it’s human nature, I’m excluding men who have taken the red pill. You aren’t “normal”. And that’s a compliment.

Order the good wine

[KeymasterKeymaster]

mark wrote:

I often see, specially in OKC, profiles of women who write things like “I don´t respond to “hi” messages” or “don´t be rude and say “hello babe”.

mark wrote:

Do I need to tell you what happens when, using the ex-model picture, I approach them with a “hi baby”?

You could tell them you’re a convicted felon.

mark wrote:

I realize that these “rules” are only for the simps

Quite a discovery isn’t it.

“I really just want a nice guy, is that too much to ask?”

The second-biggest lie after “It’s your baby”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[markParticipant 451]

XSDBS wrote:

In my personal opinion, you’re giving them exactly what they want: Attention.
I don’t understand what’s in it for you?

Happy to explain.

The second profile is my escape excuse. I get a girl I like as a beta guy. I bang her because she thinks she is going to get my money. Then, I use my second profile to hit on her. She makes a sex date with my second profile. Then I told her that the second profile is a good friend of mine, and that I wanted to test if she was really loyal. She is too ashamed to even contact me again. Winning.

[markParticipant 451]

TaxGuy wrote:

Good for you Mark, and please don’t think I was picking on you. All I am saying is Most guys are like that…. They can have a rule, but if she’s hot they will break the rule. Especially since the hi thing is a silly rule.

Let me put it this way. When I say it’s human nature, I’m excluding men who have taken the red pill. You aren’t “normal”. And that’s a compliment.

No offense taken. Here we are all friends unless proven otherwise. Here my points to your comments.

1. Agree with the fact that most guys are like that. They drop principles at the smell of a rotten pussy. But I believe it is on us to try to be better than that. You describe what it is, and I just wrote what it should be.

2. Agree also with the fact that the “don´t reply with just a “hi”” is a silly rule. But one may think that is also silly not to date smokers…and yet this is what I do. For me the rule is secondary to the fact that the ladies will step on their own rules for any bad boy in sight.

Human nature it is, but we should try to elevate ourselves about that. This comes from a guy who still needs women for sex, mind you, so I am a very bad work in progress myself…

[markParticipant 451]

narwhal wrote:

So your issue isn’t so much that she has rules, but that she published the rule and then broke it? That I understand. Besides the fact that she won’t follow her own rules, no one is going to pay attention to them anyway. All it does it make her look like a stuck up bitch.

Exactly. All your assumptions and your conclusion are right on the money.

narwhal wrote:

There is a big difference between…

Don’t contact me if you are not race XXX

and…

I typically only date within my race.

Really, stay away from anyone who focuses on the negative.

That is a topic for a whole new threat. I am a white guy. Not proud of it because, as with anything that was given to me genetically, there is nothing I did to earn it. However, I often read profiles from black women asking to date only white guys. I love women of all colors, so I find this behavior to be racist to lawsuit level. And disgusting, too.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

mark wrote:

The second profile is my escape excuse.

This kind of game play and misrepresentation isn’t worth it. You’re just playing by their rules – and bending yourself around social cues established by others. You are caring too much about how women “play the game” and trying to “win” at THEIR GAME.

You don’t need an “escape excuse” when not calling again or saying “I don’t want to see you anymore” will do nicely.

mark wrote:

I get a girl I like as a beta guy. I bang her because she thinks she is going to get my money

Right there you’ve been listening to too many PUA materials. This is MGTOW and it’s a step ahead. We owe it to you to tell you to drop the “beta” stuff. It’s bad for you to even get into that mindset, because “beta” places too much emphasis on her PERCEPTION of you.

Isn’t it “beta” to be creating two profiles one of which isn’t even real?

mark wrote:

I wanted to test if she was really loyal

A woman doesn’t OWE you any “loyalty” after one bang – or a hundred.
And you don’t owe her any either.

She’s unmarried just like you, and instead of expecting her to be loyal after a bang or three, you can wait until she starts pushing for any kind of “commitment”. Its’ not even a “relationship” for at least 9-12 months of knowing her. Right? So how can you expect any “loyalty”? In fact, you would be better off encouraging independence in them as much as possible.

Why are you even offering her the “beta” guy up front to begin with – and expecting loyalty – when you already KNOW you don’t need to?

You are caring too much about how women “play the game” and trying to “win” at THEIR game.

Personally, I always encouraged independence in women. It was important to me to let her know that she can LEAVE any time she wants. And I was vocal about it. This lets me know that every moment she is there is because she WANTS to be. She wants to flirt with another guy at a party when I drove us there?? Fine! She can walk home or sleep at his place. And I won’t be there when she calls again.

Unless I am in a “relationship” wth her, I wouldn’t even expect loyalty. It’s women who expect loyalty and commitment far sooner than what’s reasonable. They think they sleep with you once or twice and “POOF!” they’re in a “relationship” now.

Since I wouldn’t permit her to think we’re in a loyal/exclusive/committed relationship for at least 9-12 months, it would be unreasonable to expect any loyalty from her. Most women can’t even last that long. There’s your “escape excuse”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

Large point. About women, explains much.

Rules only apply to the unattractive.

It is why all women overvalue themselves. They all think they are attractive. It is why fat shaming for women is crusaded against now. Fat women want justification to feel attractive, as is, because they ain’t gonna stop eating and drinking now. Skiny women go along because the hamster knows one day they will be there too.

It is why all women want special treatment. Attractive people are not held to the rules and get special treatment. Ergo all women want special treatment. In fact they believe they deserve it, and demand it, because of course, as women, they are attractive.

Thus, this is why all women want exceptions to the rules. All of them. Whenever they want them. No mater what.

This justifies freakout/tantrum behavior from women when they do not get special treatment. Attractive people, aka women, mostly, do not get turned down for special treatment, they are attractive and as such rules must be broken for them. Not breaking the rule for women, who by default are attractive, tells them the message they are not atractive, and thus the person teling them this is evil and lying an deserves a tantrum s~~~storm for p~~~ing of cupcake.

It is why they spend so much time making themselves look good. To ensure everyone knows and sees that yes, they are attractive, under all the layers of fakeup and compression garments.

It is why they spend so much time on superficial and material things.

It is why they get bitter and angry and alone as they age if they haven’t found a guy before their market “assets” drop. They get depressed because no amount of makeup and spanx can make them be exempt from “the rules” the unatactive people have always had to exist and contend with. And no amount of outer camoflage can fix a selfish, self centered egotistical narcissist personality they are still stuck with after all this time.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Rules only apply to the unattractive.

Yep. A creep and and a CHAD can come at a women with the same EXACT approach and each receive a different response.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Thus, this is why all women want exceptions to the rules. All of them. Whenever they want them. No mater what.

I think you understand for the most part, but let me correct your statement.

Women believe they are the exception to the rule.

That is why they all demand men capitulate to them.

BETA simp has to love the repulsive, bloated warthog no matter what!

They don’t want compromise!

What they want is special treatment, and they want their simp to be on a leash like an unglorified lap dog.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Greg Honda wrote:

The Irony is, The ones who state this are usually the ones who send that type of first message to you. WTF?

I have a 40 something year old female friend who has been dabbling with online dating over the last year or so. She complained about the guys that say nothing but “Hi” as an opener when we were talking about it one day, so I asked her how many first emails has she sent? She said, none. I asked her if she had to send one first, what would she say? She said, I don’t know. Well there ya go…what do you want some guy to say to you when all he knows about you is the 3 sentences in your profile…its either going to be “Hi” or something generic based on the little info you gave him lol.

And then you got the ones that post a bunch of hot pictures of themselves with literally f~~~ing nothing in their bio…what do you say to them other than “Hi” or “Nice rack.”

Regardless though, online dating is a cesspool that is best for guys to just not bother with.

[MaddladParticipant 765]

I hate chicks that say that, but it does let me know she’s a self entitled bitch and not worth my time. An opener is just that anyway, so there’s nothing wrong with “Hi”. The reason she doesnt like it is then the onus is on her to be entertaining and witty, and women dont like that, coz they arent. 😉

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