I Was Thinking About "Dating"

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

FunInTheSun wrote:

When I look at dating websites, I see slightly different versions of the same woman—regardless of ethnicity. They usually have long hair with green/blue highlights, tattoos, and piercings. They wear skimpy outfits for their profile photos, then tell everyone they want to be loved for who they are on the inside. They want a man who’s tall, financially stable, sociable, likes to dance to dumb music at nightclubs, has a great personality, has career goals, blah, blah, blah. I have none of those qualities. And the hot single moms have higher expectations for me than the irresponsible dudes that got them pregnant. Some profiles are probably fake, because women that are very beautiful don’t need dating profiles.

Every single woman that I have ever interacted with on anything resembling a social or dating app.

They take everything off the table and still expect me to foot the bill.
They use profile photos that were Current when Bush Sr was president.
On the rare occasion you see a real photo, you immediately figure out why they are Single: they lack self worth and self respect.
They need to lose 80 pounds to only be overweight.
They have at least two kids by two different dudes and aren’t shy about telling you even the cat comes before you.
They have no interests.
They aren’t passionate about anything.
If they actually get your photo and you aren’t Chris Hemsworth, they stop interacting completely even if they look like Tess Holiday.
Your best isn’t good enough, so what chance does your daily above-average stand?

Even if I were open to a relationship, modern women have priced themselves out. They are demanding, high maintenance, and everyone rolls with it. I’m already responsible for one child – I’m not voluntarily assuming stewardship over another

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[TwistParticipant]

FunInTheSun wrote:

Why do women do this? It reminds me of cats that spray p~~~ on your leg after you pet them. Some women I’ve dated left lipstick, nail polish, and hair ties in my car.

Rebound would make a point of leaving a glass with her thermonuclear (yea – I thought it was cute at first) lip gloss on it on the kitchen island. That s~~~ is impervious to the dishwasher. Every f~~~ing day. Oh – and her f~~~ing car leaked oil on my cobble stones. Absolutely marking their (?) territory.

Done with that.

Pigs.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Twist wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

– then I wrote that alimony/child support/alimony2 check.

Ahhh – my monthly reminder.

And the state uses that to make conditions worse between exes.

My dad always paid on time. But he sent it to the state. Then the state delays occur before they send payment to the exc~~~. Who bitches at the exhusbank for being late. Of course te state does it on purpose to keep tension and anger betwen the exes high.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

FunInTheSun wrote:

When I look at dating websites, I see slightly different versions of the same woman—regardless of ethnicity. They usually have long hair with green/blue highlights, tattoos, and piercings. They wear skimpy outfits for their profile photos, then tell everyone they want to be loved for who they are on the inside. They want a man who’s tall, financially stable, sociable, likes to dance to dumb music at nightclubs, has a great personality, has career goals, blah, blah, blah. I have none of those qualities. And the hot single moms have higher expectations for me than the irresponsible dudes that got them pregnant. Some profiles are probably fake, because women that are very beautiful don’t need dating profiles.

Every single woman that I have ever interacted with on anything resembling a social or dating app.
They take everything off the table and still expect me to foot the bill.They use profile photos that were Current when Bush Sr was president.On the rare occasion you see a real photo, you immediately figure out why they are Single: they lack self worth and self respect.They need to lose 80 pounds to only be overweight.They have at least two kids by two different dudes and aren’t shy about telling you even the cat comes before you.They have no interests.They aren’t passionate about anything.If they actually get your photo and you aren’t Chris Hemsworth, they stop interacting completely even if they look like Tess Holiday.Your best isn’t good enough, so what chance does your daily above-average stand?
Even if I were open to a relationship, modern women have priced themselves out. They are demanding, high maintenance, and everyone rolls with it. I’m already responsible for one child – I’m not voluntarily assuming stewardship over another

Just tell them you cant afford them. Honest and half are dumb enough to think its a compliment.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

FunInTheSun wrote:

I know what you mean, Awakened.
I’m interested in dating if I know I’m going to get laid at the end of the day. Otherwise, I hate the process of getting a woman’s phone number, taking her out on dates, creating interesting conversations, keeping her constantly entertained, spending money on food/drinks/events, using subtle seduction techniques to get her out of the friend zone, and then driving her home because she doesn’t want to kiss me. I went through that process over and over again.
When I look at dating websites, I see slightly different versions of the same woman—regardless of ethnicity. They usually have long hair with green/blue highlights, tattoos, and piercings. They wear skimpy outfits for their profile photos, then tell everyone they want to be loved for who they are on the inside. They want a man who’s tall, financially stable, sociable, likes to dance to dumb music at nightclubs, has a great personality, has career goals, blah, blah, blah. I have none of those qualities. And the hot single moms have higher expectations for me than the irresponsible dudes that got them pregnant. Some profiles are probably fake, because women that are very beautiful don’t need dating profiles. They might be prostitutes or selling webcam “dates.” Some dating sites intentionally make up fake profiles to “entertain” men and keep them spending money.
Imagine trying to have a lively, meaningful conversation with a woman like this while she checks her text messages every 5 minutes:

Awakened wrote:

1. I’m just NOT interested in carrying on a conversation with a Woman whether it be about them or tell them about myself or pretty much anything else.

I really don’t care about the woman’s job, career goals, level of education, family life, ex-boyfriends, favorite TV shows/movies, etc. I’m interested in seeing what she looks like naked.

Awakened wrote:

14. How about all their damn s~~~ that they leave hanging around here and there.

Why do women do this? It reminds me of cats that spray p~~~ on your leg after you pet them. Some women I’ve dated left lipstick, nail polish, and hair ties in my car. Take that stuff with you, lady! I have a hunch that they might do this to let others know they are in a relationship with you. If you happen to be dating two women at the same time, you have to do a “CSI search” of your car before each date so they won’t find the evidence and get jealous. If they brush their hair in your car, there will be all sorts of loose strands of hair on the passenger seat.

They are marking territory, claiming space, thats why. And will use this s~~~ to claim they live there if it legally helps them out.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[BoarParticipant]

I would make a horrible date: I believe in equality. I am the jerk that tells the waiter ‘separate checks’ when the order is placed.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[WanderingMGTOWParticipant 288]

I’ve been divorced about 5 yrs. I dated a lot in the beginning but as time goes on, I just can’t be bothered. The time between relationships is growing. Every time I look on a dating site, they all look the same. Same lazy crap profiles. Same women dictating my height, income and telling me that their kids are #1.
Heck some of the chicks have been there, full time for 5 years or more! Its harder and harder to justify the time & effort as they offer so little.
As time goes on I’m more and more comfortable with myself and being alone, frequently seeing the advantages of being alone. I love last minute flights to somewhere interesting.

I decided to structure my life how I wanted, unconventionally, which meant becoming a digital nomad & snowbird in my 40s. In order to have a serious relationship, I’d have to give up my lifestyle and/or go to significant expense of a whole different caliber of trailer to live in and truck to pull it, for starters.

Forget it. Live for yourself and do what YOU want.

[PrincekieParticipant 1042]

Well I haven’t been here for a while, and thought that this would be a good topic to reply to (thanks OP). I have to admit I was sorely tempted to get back into the whole dating thing. Hell I’ve been toying with this for nearly half a year. But a few things have brought me back to earth. With a bang!

As soon as you bring another woman into your life, you gradually stick those shackles back on your ankles. YOUR time becomes THEIR time. The little cottage that I live in, with lovely views and my garden and my bit of land that I use to mess around with my car gradually becomes THEIR area. The time I spend on the things I enjoy becomes less and less, as I spend money on the stupid things that make her happy. My Saturday afternoons in the pub or on the fells, become Saturday afternoons shopping or visiting her friends/parents/family.

Then there are the potential idiotic potential in-laws that you have to put up with. And her friends. And gradually you become an accessory just like the woman’s handbag.
Dating, relationship, marriage. Not for me!

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Honestly, the whole Doll thing is becoming more approachable everyday. I like how some guys just roll with it.

It is logical. excessively logical and a damn good substitute. Its just very funny, silly and awkward too. One day I might do it. Sounds like fun!

I always watch TFMs videos on them. The dude owns it, no shame and he shouldnt be ashamed.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

FunInTheSun wrote:

If you happen to be dating two women at the same time, you have to do a “CSI search” of your car before each date so they won’t find the evidence and get jealous. If they brush their hair in your car, there will be all sorts of loose strands of hair on the passenger seat.

I dated 2 women (same first name, LOL) for 3 months in 2017. I’d leave a message on my whiteboard “I love *name*” and they would both think it was her.

Had to be careful; I always banged them in different beds in my house. One had black hair (Asian), the other blond.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

I always banged them in different beds in my house. One had black hair (Asian), the other blond.

You can do that with a Doll, just switch out the wig. Im a genius.

but wait, that’s not all! You can put her in the passenger seat and ride the HOV lane!!

[narwhalParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

2. The whole idea of having to spend MY Time, Energy, Effort, and Cash pursuing any Woman is LOST on me. Been There…Done That…DONE

Just yesterday I was in my car with my daughter, and some kelly Clarkson song came on. I listen to the lyrics a bit, and it was something about wanting to feel the heat, want her dude to make her feel special, wanted, exciting. I looked at my daugther and told her that a woman came to me with these demands, I just say ‘pass’ and go about my business. I have no desire to try and create this fairy tale scenario for someone. It’s empty and hollow and just bores me.

I remember the days when I wanted to make whoever I was dating feel special. Sometimes it worked, and then I wished I hadn’t done that and was now trying to backtrack from the impression I gave her. Other times it didn’t and I wasted my time in so many ways. I also found that I could trip a woman poorly and she’d think I’m super romantic. I have no interest in pursuing women in anyway. If I date, it’s for fun. It’s just not that fun anymore.

But to add to the list, it’s not so much a dating issue, but I want to avoid things that ultimately come up when dating becomes a relationship.
– I don’t want a woman trying to redecorate my home.
– I don’t want her telling me what I should eat
– I don’t want to meet her parent or her kids, or even her friends unless they’re fun people to hangout with.
– I don’t want to go places I don’t want to go.
– I don’t want to feel like I need to act the way she wants me to in order to avoid confrontation.
– I don’t want to spend the night at her place.
– I don’t want to watch tv or movies I don’t want to watch.
– I don’t want to sit there and cuddle when I’d rather do something else.
– I don’t want to find myself in jail or finacial ruin because I trusted her to be sane.

What’s weird to me is that none of these “don’t wants” are forced upon me in friendships. Yet they seem to be must haves if you get involved with a woman.

Ok. Then do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Honestly, the whole Doll thing is becoming more approachable everyday. I like how some guys just roll with it.

It is logical. excessively logical and a damn good substitute. Its just very funny, silly and awkward too. One day I might do it. Sounds like fun!

I simply can’t quite grasp why a doll is significantly better than an internet connection and your left hand. I get that touch is important, but are the dolls going to feel like the real thing? Doesn’t seem like they would. I’ve seen pictures of dolls before, and yes, the images can stimulate me, but no more than images of real women (attractive ones) I also don’t see how it can provide any sort of companionship. If an inanimate object can make you feel less alone or something, why not get a life size boba fett or something?

I do think AI and robotics will eventually provide substitutes in many ways for human companionship in many ways. I don’t think we are close to that yet. I’d also think that as we approach the point where robots can provide the needs of humans, our approach to relationships with humans will significantly change.

Ok. Then do it.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

Gravel Pit wrote:

Honestly, the whole Doll thing is becoming more approachable everyday. I like how some guys just roll with it.
It is logical. excessively logical and a damn good substitute. Its just very funny, silly and awkward too. One day I might do it. Sounds like fun!

I simply can’t quite grasp why a doll is significantly better than an internet connection and your left hand. I get that touch is important, but are the dolls going to feel like the real thing? Doesn’t seem like they would. I’ve seen pictures of dolls before, and yes, the images can stimulate me, but no more than images of real women (attractive ones) I also don’t see how it can provide any sort of companionship. If an inanimate object can make you feel less alone or something, why not get a life size boba fett or something?
I do think AI and robotics will eventually provide substitutes in many ways for human companionship in many ways. I don’t think we are close to that yet. I’d also think that as we approach the point where robots can provide the needs of humans, our approach to relationships with humans will significantly change.

The texture of the silicone/TPE is realistic enough you can suspend disbelief, and because you’re not connected by your nervous system to the thing stimulating you, the baiting feels better. You get a bigger hormonal payload and if you decide to go all in, you can get the vasopressin bond for that mate-guarding instinct fullfilment.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I agree with both of you (Narwhal and JustAnotherGuy)

An internet connection and some lotion is plenty enough, all you really need is a hot shower and a bar of soap.

What’s remarkable is that the prospect of getting one is much more logically approachable than I’d of ever guessed.
We’d all heard of ‘blow up dolls’ before in movies and laughed. None of us ever took the idea of one serious.

But the art of the toy has come a long way! It’s pretty luring.

I’m currently too cheap and lazy to buy a Doll but its growing on me. Perhaps when Im ready, they will have the Ex Machina edition! (minus the trying to kill me part).

[narwhalParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I’m currently too cheap and lazy to buy a Doll but its growing on me. Perhaps when Im ready, they will have the Ex Machina edition! (minus the trying to kill me part).

The cost isn’t really the big issue for me, if I’m honest, assuming that it’s all that it’s cracked up to be. Perhaps its an issue with my character, but I would not want people to know I own one, and would not have to deal with trying to keep such a thing secret. To me, it’s something that people will quickly and easily judge you for. Right now, it’s one of those things that you cannot just try out and move on. If people know you ever had one, it would be something that will stick with you…and your kids.

It is something that will be considered less taboo or out of the ordinary with time, the same way dildos used to be a big deal, but now it’s odd for women not to have one. And maybe then I’ll be on board. Not really interested in being a trailblazer in this regard.

Ok. Then do it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

I would not want people to know I own one, … deal with trying to keep it a secret.

Dude, I know exactly what you mean and its the same boat Im in. TFM has no one to barge in and stigmatize him. I do. I have family who don’t exactly frequent my quarters but just the other day, out of left field, my Mom and Dad just happened to be in the area after a night out in Big D (free tickets to a basketball game near me).

After the game, they happened to call and drop in. I had 8 mins forewarning which is fine, I have nothing to hide. But if Celestina or whatever was still in the doggy-style position… that would be pretty freaking hard to console my highly Christian mother from such a sight. Would they accept it and laugh it off and love me anyway, YES OF COURSE but now they think I’m a freak for sure. Mind you, my mother is “praying” for me to find a woman.

My parents are cool as s~~~ but even they have their limits in understanding philosophy or deep sociology. They do not ‘get’ MGTOW … there’s no way. Much less the acquisition of a sex-doll no matter how state of the art it is.

Anyway. Im just not willing to dive off that particular fetish-cliff. When Im the only one still left alive, MAYBE… but even then, your niece or nephew happens to drop by. “What’s that?” “OMG! Uncle Pit f~~~s a mannequin”

LOL. There’s just now way. Im way too timid and coy for a Doll. ONE DAY I keep saying, prolly never! hehhe

[HermitParticipant]

I will have been long since dead by the time they can make them “real enough” for me. I need full automatic movement from head to toe. They look pretty good now and if they had the autonomous motion I might go for it. I reckon the only way I could get into the ones they have now is if I were a necrophile.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

The cost isn’t really the big issue for me, if I’m honest, assuming that it’s all that it’s cracked up to be. Perhaps its an issue with my character, but I would not want people to know I own one, and would not have to deal with trying to keep such a thing secret. To me, it’s something that people will quickly and easily judge you for. Right now, it’s one of those things that you cannot just try out and move on. If people know you ever had one, it would be something that will stick with you…and your kids.

See, I don’t give a f~~~. My kid is five, I’m clearing out a spare room to store a doll in, and I live alone. I don’t care what people think or say about me, I don’t have a social life, and I live in the wilderness so nobody is going to sneak up on me.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

I’m clearing out a spare room to store a doll in, and I live alone.

Bro, your courage is inspiring. MEN ARE SO STRONG. I love this website, even when its basically inactive and shutdown, you can come here and be inspired by BROTHERS IN ARMS against the MISANDRIC tyranny.

There is more wit, humor and brotherhood on this tiny corner of the internet than in some entire nations.

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