I want kids to spread my genes but ,,,

[MrMeParticipant 651]

I am 31 yo, finishing university and soon to be a healthcare professionnal.

I want kids to spread my genes (Darwin style) but I do not want to deal with the women and I surely do not want to share my money with the women.

Solution ? Please help, thx guys.

[eqlifeSpectator 370]

MrMe wrote:

I am 31 yo, finishing university and soon to be a healthcare professionnal.

I want kids to spread my genes (Darwin style) but I do not want to deal with the women and I surely do not want to share my money with the women.

Solution ? Please help, thx guys.

Just don’t. There is no solution. No, a surrogate is not a solution and it can backfire just as spectacularly as marriage. You either do the deed and deal with the consequences, or you don’t.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Read up on Christiano Ronaldo. Carrier womb and egg donor were different people. No legitimate claim to his beautiful Son.

When you pay them make sure that your contract is ironclad for the area that you live in. Have two or three lawyers review it after another writes the initial version.

There is no amount of money that you will spend to ensure that a harpy won’t try to use him against make you. Make sure that the work is done beforehand.

Alternate, you can take your chances on the artificial womb happening in your lifetime and utilizing it when it is perfected.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Ogre wrote:

Read up on Christiano Ronaldo. Carrier womb and egg donor were different people. No legitimate claim to his beautiful Son.

When you pay them make sure that your contract is ironclad for the area that you live in. Have two or three lawyers review it after another writes the initial version.

There is no amount of money that you will spend to ensure that a harpy won’t try to use him against make you. Make sure that the work is done beforehand.

Alternate, you can take your chances on the artificial womb happening in your lifetime and utilizing it when it is perfected.

LOL yeah it helps to have his money too,

besides I read a story on here about just that

except BOTH chicks ended up going after the guy.

Better just to adopt some disadvantaged baby and

give it a shot in life.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25016]

As was said by the famous philosopher Shopen???, love is just the instinctual chemical balance that leads to procreation. But men and women are so different that living together forever happy is an unlikely outcome.

The simplest solution is to buy and egg…5K, pay a surrogate…25 K and your genes are passed on and no one can take your kid. Don’t listen to naysayers, tons of infertile women do this. You here about the few problem cases and they are blown out of proportion.

But raising a kid as a single parent is a different matter than conceiving a child.

My ex left when my son was 9 months and I had to be a single father. It was tough as hell. Give up any social life for 18 years. Hire a nanny so you can go to work. Do all the housework, homework, ball games etc by yourself.

It was grand, I loved every minute of it.

If you have the b~~~~ go for it.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[MrMeParticipant 651]

Tuneout wrote:

Ogre wrote:

Read up on Christiano Ronaldo. Carrier womb and egg donor were different people. No legitimate claim to his beautiful Son.

When you pay them make sure that your contract is ironclad for the area that you live in. Have two or three lawyers review it after another writes the initial version.

There is no amount of money that you will spend to ensure that a harpy won’t try to use him against make you. Make sure that the work is done beforehand.

Alternate, you can take your chances on the artificial womb happening in your lifetime and utilizing it when it is perfected.

LOL yeah it helps to have his money too,

besides I read a story on here about just that

except BOTH chicks ended up going after the guy.

Better just to adopt some disadvantaged baby and

give it a shot in life.

Adopting is out of the question … as I said, I want to spread my genes Darwin style. I will never take care of some other guy’s baby because this is the biggest waste of ressources in my opinion.

[Anonymous 3]

Move to a third world country where you will actually have rights as a father and can raise a family.

Sure your ass will be broke and live in poverty most likely, but that’s the price to pay. Or do you have this idea in your head that you can “have it all” and everything is just supposed to be easy and perfect and you can float through life getting exactly what you want all the time?

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Why do you want to spread your genes?

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 3]

MrMe wrote:

I want kids to spread my genes (Darwin style) but I do not want to deal with the women and I surely do not want to share my money with the women.

I respect your intention and its the most natural and instinctive thing a man can long for.

However so is sex, and also to desire the companionship of a woman.

The same way these other natural desires have a cost, so do kids.

I have two kids. The fact is that much of what kids are and do is related to genetics. They think and talk in ways that remembered myself as a kid.

My side in the genetic/education debate is that genetics is everything.

That might look like a good thing, but I was lucky (?) to have the kids taking after myself.

Now, never forget that genetics is a lottery, where you mix the father’s genes with the mother genes.

If one has a kid with the women he loves, by default he would appreciate her genes.

Totally different thing is to have a kid with a stranger.
Part of the reason one doesn’t like to adopt, is because it is totally foreign to our genes.
Think about this…

And besides, just like sex is an unconscious urge that is explained by the biological need of reproduction, so is the urge to have kids.

In the limit why would we want to spread our genes? Are they so special and unique?

I love my kids, but they are a real pain in the ass, especially taking after me. It is painful to see my defects in them and doing them harm.

My MGTOW path is one where I don’t care about this society, and I don’t invest emotionally in its future. Having kids when thinking this way is, at least, confusing.

Just some food for thoughts.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

Survival of the fittest does not mean the strongest, smartest or biggest would survive. The fittest is the one that have the most offspring (throughout your lifetime).

Sometime there is also cost to increase your child fitness at the expense of your own. For example, chicks love Chad the thunderc~~~, who usually end up in jail, leaving behind single mothers and a bunch of bastards.

The expense for Chad is he probably in jail or live miserable live (but so is betas). The fitness for Chad is he got the most kids. The kids would be raised by the govt and/or other beta males. The kids grow up in these setting would also likely to become Chad the second and cycle repeats.

It is counter-intuitive but sciences are like that…

If you do cost/benefits analysis, I think surrogacy would give you the optimal fitness with the least cost of your own fitness.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Put that out of your mind and focus on making money.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

MrMe wrote:

I want kids to spread my genes (Darwin style) but I do not want to deal with the women and I surely do not want to share my money with the women.

This one is gonna be hard man because surgacy has you dealing with women still as much as the traditional knocking a chick up method.

For now if you want a kid then you will have to deal with a women however in a few century’s it might be different with artifial wombs.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12045]

MrMe wrote:

I am 31 yo, finishing university and soon to be a healthcare professionnal.

I want kids to spread my genes (Darwin style) but I do not want to deal with the women and I surely do not want to share my money with the women.

Solution ? Please help, thx guys.

That’s easy: you have just to have sex with a woman and before doing it you have to pierce the condom.
Women do so when they wish to have a kid, or they lie about the pill.
You’ll have to pay money for the kid, and you’ll get visitation rights, she still do almost all the caring.
If you don’t marry her nor you start a cohabitation with her, she cannot do more than forcing you to pay money for the kid, but since having the kid it’s your choice, I don’t see problems.

Don’t worry for her: if she doesn’t wish the kid, she’ll have an abortion.
It’s her choice and you haven’t a say about it.
That’s why piercing the condom is somewhat fair: you bought it, after all, right? 😀 and she have the final word about the pregnancy.
See? It’s quite balanced 😀

The gynocentric trap is that we are supposed to give support to children AND women.
Supporting children is a good thing.
Supporting women is VERY stupid.
It’s quite easy separating the two things: don’t marry her, don’t start a cohabitation with her.
By doing so, she haven’t rights on your home nor rights to alimonies, she can only ask money for the kid.
Money for the kids is usually a more reasonable sum than the alimonies for the woman.

If you wish to save money, you can even do it abroad: Bulgaria, Romania, in example.
The money you’ll have to pay for the kid will be way less than in a western country.
There’s the downside: you’ll see the kid very rarely.
A friend of mine have a kid in Romania, it’s a funny situation, because he pays an half than the sum I pay in Italy for each children I have (so he actually pays a quarter than the money I pay) but such money in Romania have 4x / 5x the purchasing power it have in Italy, so the woman (incredibly beautiful and somewhat “conservative”) considers herself lucky. My friend spend two or three weeks each year in Romania, and he’s treated like a king, by her and her family.

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[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

With kids as was mentioned above it is a lottery, and even if you get lucky genetically you may never get to see those kids and influence them.

Of all those people who have 3+ kids how many of those kids are of any value to society as a whole or are they just another mooch taking up space.

May sound harsh but I would say you could do much more of value to the world focusing on your career, particularly in the healthcare field. Hell if you work hard enough you could build a legacy far greater than any kids may bring. Go and cure cancer or some s~~~.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Research some rented womb in third world country where the law cannot touch you in your current country.

Minimize contact with the egg donor and womb rental, go everything through the agent, if the women don’t know you the better. Form no emotional attachment with the baby until he is legally yours in your country.

Always be prepared that if the women regrets it, just give up the baby and be safe in your country where the women cannot touch you, you lost sperm anyway. Let the women know (through agent) that if they rogue on their agreement with you, you won’t care about the baby since you have not seen it and form no emotional attachment to it. They have to rise the baby on their own then without the money. Your agent can get you another rented womb. Most likely they will freak out thinking that they have to rise the baby alone and let you have it.

Make sure you can go through your promise that you can leave the baby that is not yours. You only lost a sperm, you already lost billions of sperm in your life.

Alternative is get rich in your country, when you attained financial freedom, you migrate to another country where the laws cannot touch you in your country. Keep the bulk of your money and assets in your current country and have minimal money you don’t mind losing in another country. Rent, don’t buy house there. Get married there, and let the women know if she divorce you there are little to be gain and you will escape back to your country. Don’t endorse any form the women want to get citizenship / residency in your country.
Check if your country laws will work against you because some country just give the women citizenship if the women claim abuse by you. If that is the case, give up your country citizenship and build up your wealth in another country that don’t have misandry law and get married in another country (You have minimal asset in this country and sell whatever property before you get married and keep the bulk of your wealth in another country) that the laws cannot touch you. Enemies of your current country should do the trick.

However realize this, you don’t need kids to survive, it is mother nature great con playing tricks on you just like the desire for sex.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[experiencedParticipant]

Women’ve been given absolute power regarding having kids.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and women are pretty corrupt to begin with.
No easy answers. Puffin Stuff’s approach looks to be the most realistic.

Until I had a kid, I didn’t care too much about having one.
Once you have a kid though, it’s as though someone slams a new circuit board or chip into your brain regarding priorities etc.
Women will attempt to pre-emptively program your brain this way.
Do not let them.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 14]

Just buy them a nice pair of Levi’s..

Oh wait..

[Eric LauderParticipant 12045]

Anonymous wrote:

Just buy them a nice pair of Levi’s..

Oh wait..

I’m glad to see again my Indian brother.
How things are going?

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous 14]

Eric Lauder wrote:

I’m glad to see again my Indian brother.
How things are going?

I’m alright thanks, and you?

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Dude just find a wifey that’s already married to beta-bux and seduce her. Married women are easy as f~~~ to bang. Do not pull out. If you have assets downplay your wealth and avoid giving her too much of your info.

There are plenty of white knight chumps out there that will gladly work 3 jobs for some worthless slut. Nut inside his whore a few times, then disappear from her life. Leave beta bucks holding the bag. He’ll never know and she’s not going to tell him.

The way I look at it, you just want to spread your seed. Raising children sounds like an expensive pain in the ass. Just dont knock up a single woman that doesn’t have a wallet on lock. That would be wrong. Make sure there’s a father figure in the kids life.

Not my property... Not my problem

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