I think that you will pay the price for being an asshole to women

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

There has already been a post or two lately in this message board that you need to be an asshole to the women that you date to get their respect and to put them in their place. But think about it for a second. Lots of females these days are of a certain nature compared to a few years ago. If you offend the wrong female by being an extreme asshole like some sort of alpha male would, they might seem like they want you more than ever, but in reality, they just want to put your guard down and would try to f*ck up your life with whatever chance they get out of revenge for getting them to be put in a f*cked up position that you put them earlier. You think that there wouldn’t be at least one person that you would back stab you after you treated the future girl like sh*t? This way of dealing with girls would eventually catch up to you. What total nonsense that advice is. Too many female backstabbers in this world to be safe to even do this sort of thing.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Its a lot easier and a lot less drama to just be “nice” and fly under the radar. I mean…I could be more of a dick and get more attention from women…but why do I want to do two things I really don’t want to do when I could just not do either of them?

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

You don’t have to be an asshole. You just don’t have to take their s~~~ and bend over backwards for them. Act like you don’t give a s~~~ if you can’t actually not give a s~~~. lol But don’t go out of your way to be an asshole to people, man or woman. Life’s hard enough without assholes.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

If ignoring, not helping, minimal conversation is p~~~ing women off …

I simply don’t care. That is their problem not mine.

They can’t touch me, hurt me or use me.

They and their nasty acidic souls can fk off.

[Ronin De NiroParticipant 200]

If one need to be an asshole to people he associates with, I wonder if it is not time to pause and ponder.

[Anonymous 22]

In a woman’s sick mind you are an asshole if you ignore her when she expresses any interest in you.

So, even if you are not aware that some woman is interested in you, and you are simply minding your business, she might think you’re an asshole.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

That’s why you don’t date them in the first place.
“keep your friends close and your enemies closer” is a womanly tactic.

[WallyParticipant]

Water seeks its own level, better to be who you are, be yourself, people who are similar will gravitate toward you. I have found this to be true. If act like an asshole to women you will attract a lot of women that are assholes.

Awesome post Decline, much needed, I don’t agree with but understand where some guys feel the PUA stuff is needed, but in one of those posts, I felt some sorrow for the woman he was talking about, don’t make promises then go back on them, it’s not honorable.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 42]

Yesterday I was in the company of a feminist wearing that Westinghouse electric female muscle flexing poster on her T shirt. This girl would think a dress was some kind parachute or something. I don’t hate her, I don’t treat her like an asshole, but every five minutes I’m bucking heads defending the truth, the facts, and masculinity.

It’s like her mind runs 24/7 on feminism with the objective and rising above men on feminism’s sea of perpetrated lies.

Once again we intellectually battled and it was like a destroyer sinking a rowboat, I can’t be in the presence of a feminists without being provoked into battle.

I found most women are like this at a subliminal level and don’t even realize what they’re doing.

The spirit of feminism has saturated women so deeply that to me a great number of them are feminist wet rags. They douse any desires I have of forming any kind of human relationships with any depth at all.

The MG-Tower destroyer seems to always be on red alert for the misguided torpedoes of feminism always seeking to puncture my hull.

I’m not an asshole nor am I offensive. I’m anchored in neutral waters surrounded by enemy vessels, they have no idea the damage they’re doing to men that are unaware of the gender war started so long ago.

Women are for woman, and stand unified in the destruction of men. I’ve seen this pattern over and over in every imaginable array, only a fool or a ruined man could deny it’s existence.

My adversary (the spirit of Jezebel) is dwelling and living in the heart, sole, and minds of nearly all the women I know.

I’m hypersensitive to Jezebel’s personality, she can’t hide comfortably in any woman I’m talking to, I know her, I smell her, and I’m on high alert to her subtle and sneaky ways to pierce the heart of men with her slander.

I’d rather live alone, be alone, and die alone, than be in a close personal war with this unclean spirit, hence marriage is hell so is war. I chose to evade and avoid contact all together.

I haven’t seen a “real woman” in decades, they’re all gone now, and Jezebel is their replacement.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I think there is a level to that. There’s the wow-thats-attractive-asshole and the what-an-asshole-like-hes-really-an-asshole . Its PUA stuff: they’d tel you how to be just the ‘right’ asshole in front of the ‘right woman’.

In any case, I practice being nice to everybody. One, its better be safe than sorry, like @ETD stated. Second, it keeps the women at bay. ‘Being nice’ card, as proven time and again, is a huge turn-off for women, even better than the Gay card.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I think it’s the other way around:
Women eventually pay the price for treating men like s~~~.

Think of how it all starts. Younger men don’t treat women like s~~~. They are actually “nice”. TOO nice. That’s the female complaint when they are younger and we hear it all the time.

Then legions of “nice guys” learn over time that being nice to women is an exercise in futility, so eventually men learn and adapt and stop sucking up to women. Conversely, the younger women who spent their youth behaving like bitches figure out they can’t get away with that s~~~ anymore.

Men don’t pay the price for being assholes to women.
Men pay the price for being NICE.

Even women will tell you “nice guys finish last”, but really, it’s women who eventually pay the price for all their mind games, flakey behavior, “rejections” and emotional terrorism.

“Asshole game” works on younger women, but with women over 36…. every bulls~~~ nice thing you do for them is like throwing food to the starving. It’s the photo negative of how it was when you’re 18. At least that’s how I see it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[xenonParticipant 2007]

It’s really a warped game for guys who are nice. I am naturally inclined to be polite and nice until provoked. In my current state of socializing only when I have to, I use it to weed out undesirables. Haha. They all get weeded out every time. If a female responds to kindness with the usual crap you get for being nice, blip, she is done. I care not to interact in a world where “nice guys finish last”…it makes no sense. At the same time you have to go with facts and reality. Here, the fact is, if she is a young pretty girl, forget it, being nice will have you friend zoned and watching a never ending line of losers banging her, to a chorus of “You go Gurl” from whatever passes for friends to her. Just the way it is. I picture a world full to capacity with single moms and chads kids and want nothing to do with any of it. Completely agree w KM here, men pay the price for being nice. Is the end result going to be society populated by chad and his offspring being raised by embittered loud undesirables? Not one I am inclined to participate in.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Franky wrote:

“keep your friends close and your enemies closer” is a womanly tactic.

Oh don’t I know this tactic. An ex of mine secretly hated with passion many gorgeous women who were friends of mine at the gym. My ex would judge, back stab and have nothing to do with these women even when I introduced them and made it clear she was my girl and I had no appetite elsewhere. When we viciously broke up, said ex made quick allies of these woman and defamed me enough that i’d never get to date or f~~~ any of them. I lost about 5 female friends from the gym over this. It got that bad I actually had to change gyms after being at this one for 5 years and introducing the said ex to this gym 12 months prior.

Some exes go absolutely out of their way to make sure you never rail any woman hotter or more threatening to her.

But I digress…

[Anonymous 42]

Hey KM, You see it the way I do but a much lighter, kinder, and softer outcome.

I’m looking at the big picture, women have taken the unprecedented unified stand against man and masculinity, the damage they have do to this society is tremendous, the blowback from this has pitted men against women also, but not with an offensive strategy to war and battle the way feminism has, we’re abandoning our posts, and our positions in stabilizing the society, and like a reckless speeding car we simply choose not to be a passenger, or a police man, we let the reckless driver destroy themselves and their vehicle.

Here’s clinch, we’re remaining unscathed on a psycological, emotional, financial, and physical platform, we simply move forward past the wreckage ignoring the pleas for help as we bundle up in our ability to become emotionally diseased and handing the survivors a death sentence as they suffer in their sick twisted wreckage.

The future for men is outliving and outlasting women as women emotionally and spiritually traumatize themselves with no men to bail them out this time.

They will learn to survive as men or perish as dammaged women. They’re more unhappy now than any time in the history of man. They’ve only begun their journey on the trail of tears they created.

The real suffering hasn’t even begun yet, it took nearly 5 decades for the backlash to even catch up with them, that’s a fully loaded locomotive coming at them that’s over 50 years long. MGTOW numbers will multiply beyond our wildest expectations as the backlash tightens up and the real drive train is engaged.

All the band-aid female bias laws will fall off exposing the gangrene they have festered for decades, they will die from spiritual septic toxemia and there’s nothing men can or should do about it, after all we didn’t create it, and it’s no longer our problem, we’ve been released form our duties as men to be societies 24/7 medic.

“Give them nothing, let them die”, that my friend is the fruits of feminism that will come from feminism’s blossoming tree. They’re smelling the flowers now and enjoying the sweet aroma, but they’re in for a hell of a surprise when it comes time to eating it’s deadly fruit.

My only parting words for them; Goodby, so-long, I live in the green pastures where I cut down all those poisonous trees.

[Anonymous 3]

I cannot be an asshole. I confess my weakness. It makes me half a man, because I fail to defend myself emotionally when required. That is why I decided I cannot have women in my life.

In another thread the idea was “leave when women are being assholes“. That is a nice option, when you have it: try that one when you are married…
There must be another way of dealing with a wife/girlfriend without running at the first sign of fight. That way is to respond with emotional aggression, and they will call you an asshole for it.

I practice martial arts. If I need to defend myself does that make me a bully? I would be a bully only if I was to use physical abuse to assert dominance over others.

Women call men assholes when they dont do what women want and defend themselves.

So, most times “asshole” is only a shamming scheme. You can be pretty nice guy, and they still call you an asshole for defending yourself.

What is important? What people call you or what you know you are?

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Best defence when a woman calls you an “Asshole” is to casually and playfully say whilst waving your hand at her “Hey, don’t suck up to me now.” Then either walk away or go back to having a drink at the bar with your mate. It will send her into full-on hamster mode!

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Nice guys finish last and trash attracts flies.

I simply leave the trollops to their own devices.

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s not about being nice or being an asshole. Letting others take advantage of you isn’t being nice, it’s being a tool. Not letting someone take advantage of you doesn’t make you an asshole. ‘Nice’ and ‘asshole’ are a matter of perspective and opinion, which is the only reason women seem to ignore nice guys and go for the assholes. Really it’s the good boundaries and strength they attracted to.

Whether or not you want to be attractive to women or not, it’s wise to ignore the whole nice/asshole perspective and just consider your own boundaries.

Ok. Then do it.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

embittered loud undesirables

What a great description. I’m going to add this to my list. Undesirables… excellent!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

I fail to defend myself emotionally when required.

^^^This is the key to understanding MGTOW.

Women are the mastery of emotions, men have little or no understanding on how to arm ourselves in this realm. We go in thinking logically, and mathematically from a true and level playing field where logic dictates the outcome.

like billiard b~~~~ we understand the laws of interaction and know how to make every shot because we’re strategists. We know how to win from the very start of the game. We know the outcome of behavior and the ramifications of bad behavior, we’ve been held accountable for every little infraction, like a lion at the end of a whip. While women have been allowed to freely p~~~ on the floor like a dauntless puppy.

The only way this gender war will end is when all this bad female behavior ends society itself (we can plainly see the cancer grow and grow and grow).

Either Western Society will be stripped from existence, or it’s females will be striped of their rights. It’s only a matter of time under this continued and endless degradation.

There is only suffering, slavery, and hardship for any man married to a woman under this societies current and awful condition.

As MGTOW we’ve free ourselves from this 50 year old, new form of slavery.

Black lives matter, what a f~~~ing joke, always looking backwards while the new chains are being forged.

P.S. Men figured out the periodic table and named atoms that hadn’t been discovered yet! We have Methodical minds that are capable of seeing through walls and barriers.

Sorry ladies, you can’t see two feet ahead of you on a clear and sunny day.

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