I think most married men regret it.

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

In the last, few weeks I’ve had interesting conversations with a guy who is married and it was so weird how it came up. First he was talking about how selfish his wife was with somethings. We work together so we talked about this like for a total of 4 hours with the 2 times he worked.

Then he mentioned the book Men on Strike by Dr Helen Smith. Now I have read the book and it is very good but a married guy looking at this material kinda threw me off. Then he started talking about MGTOW and said he didn’t blame guys to be doing their thing.

Now usually from married men I get usually how wonderful it is or they try and shame you to be like them. This was totally different. We had a very interesting convo which I explained to him the difference of the blue pill and the red pill.

It really made me think how many married guys might be looking for guidance because they seemed lost. I know my own father has told me he doesn’t blame me for not wanting to be married and my parents are still together and have been for 46 years.

I think in some instances men do see this stuff and either blow it off in denial or realize they f~~~ed up and are scared to death now because everything about the red and the blue pill is true.

The fact is I’ve had married men who know about my life style and have said to me they want to get a divorce but can’t afford to due to children and the whole it’s cheaper to keep her theory. I couldn’t imagine living like that. It seems like slavery or prison.

So my message to the married guys I feel your pain and do feel sorry you discovered MGTOW and the scam called marriage and relationships late.

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Amen kbbroiler. Well stated. Some guys just don’t have the intestinal fortitude to go it alone though. To each his own I guess. I prefer being happy. Gotta go, I’m buying airline tickets to Latin America this morning. Sure is nice not having a wife who may not like this road trip I’m taking. Take care.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Men have two real choices when it comes to marriage:
1. Follow the herd, get married, take what comes.
2. Become a rogue and live outside the herd, don’t get married, take what comes.

For myself, I like Door Number Two best.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Hey KB, I feel sorry for men locked into the contract of marriage.

It must really suck when he finally sees himself as Charley Brown watching Lucy with his sister Sally both make-out with Pig Pen…

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I certainly hear a lot of complaining from them. When there wife isn’t around of course.

I remember talking to a teacher of mine before going off to college, and they gave me this huge speech about how great their life was when they were young and single. Then they even said “those were the best days of my life…” Then his blue pill conditioning kicked in and he added “well besides the day of my wedding” and he left the room with a guilty look on his face.

[Anonymous 54]

The’re miserable basterds.They dont want to admit it.I hear the endless complaining.Yet they tell me not to give up finding the right one.WTF? Getting divorced is a dark experience. It will cost you. But Men have died for freedom.Alot of guys say well it beats being alone.Seriously?

[BeeParticipant 700]

I do.

You have to understand the nature of things. The lives of quiet desperation were the best kept secret back before the internet. And the internet was nothing but porn and beanie babies until recently. There was ONE man who warned me.

He was a mechanic at our shop. He said bed them don’t wed them. That he loved his kids but would have his dream car but for them. He got hit with a surprise pregnancy in his low forties and was distraught, not delighted. He thought she was menopausal already.

The other eye opener was a lady i worked with three kids constantly doing sports and driving and me thinking “I don’t want that kind of life.

This is why the site gets attacked. Up until 10 years ago, there was no public information on how bad married life, not just divorce, but married life itself really is. For every mgtow there is a woman that has to support herself and they hate that.

If I were single now I would not even date. My sex drive is half of what it was and their sex appeal is pretty much gone and kids? I have one I love but I’d rather be dead than have more.

[Anonymous 54]

@bee. Sorry dude.I broke free.All the hell is worth it.

[BeeParticipant 700]

Except for the reproductive organs, men and women aren’t compatible anyway. Have you ever met someone you have led in common with than a woman? Young boys instinctively know this. Young girls want to play family and trap little boys into it. Then puberty hits, gotta have it NOW and n in an hour. One thing I’m kind of grateful for is middle age has slowed down my sex drive a lot. I can actually go a day or two without an orgasm now.

[globemasterParticipant 443]

“Elephant in the room”

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Damn right most men regret it. Of course some keep lying to themselves and keep hoping for better days, while others are aware of the situation but resign themselves to being f~~~ed and just lie to other men telling them that married life is bliss, just so they don’t look bad.

BUT, there are some of us who regret it and take the red pill too. Some of us, who can do it, get out of the marriage. Others, some of whom are members of this site, will stay in the marriage because of their children, planning to get out when the kids grow up.

So, yes, I would say most men regret it, but I wouldn’t say they/we are all the same. Some of us stay married to our future x-wives for our children. We might even make it look like everything is just peachy and we might even fake some romance so that our kids grow up in a seemingly loving and caring atmosphere (see statistics about single parent kids). But, at the same time, some of us have begun living our own lives on the side and are planning to get the f~~~ out as soon as the last kid turns 18 (i.e. no child support)

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I think it varies by generation.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[perpedes66Participant 259]

@Old Sage

I´m not a (The’re miserable) basterds. miserable? sometimes!

When you get married in the 90´you are mostly a Blue Piller. Without internet, cellphones and at best an ATARI ST you are on the island of bliss.

My children come to me first and then I come.This is not negotiable!

judgments is always easy, particularly in relation to incorrect or bad decisions in other people. If there is a God, he is the only one before I had to justify myself.

[WallyParticipant]

I remember the last trip I went on a fellow, who had been married three time, stated “when your married and she has your back, it’s the best thing ever, unfortunately none of the 3 ever had my back.”

So yeah, I bet a large percentage of men regret their marriage(s).

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Y_Participant 4591]

@kbbroiler

I have found in my travels to exotic lands that men invariably fall into two groups – I call them the Haves and the Havents (LOL).

The Haves are usually thinkers and self-owned while the Havents accept and protect the status quo – there seems to be no demographical or cultural reason why a man is one and not the other.

I have a hypothesis – that nature divided men into two classes for the protection of the species. In a patriarchal society the Havents provide stability. In a matriarchal society the Haves will allow the species to survive by disowning it.

I also believe most thinkers, scientists and leaders are of the Have group, as they are continually pushing for change.

Just my way of telling the manginas and their c~~~s we are better than them (and always will be)……

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

Let’s think about this for a second. If there were no consequences for men if they wanted a divorce, (example: no alimony, a fair child support system requiring both parents to work and contribute in a separate account) how many men would remain married?

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[Y_Participant 4591]

@masculine_man
The utopia you refer to cannot exist for the simple reason females will always try to f~~~ up the system in their favour. Therefore there is either a patriarchy for stability or a matriarchy where everything is going to hell.

The Middle East approach is the closest thing to a practical solution to the problem that existed in the past almost everywhere else in different forms.

However if you go to the Mid-East or talk to some men from there THEY ARE NOT HAPPY – women still manage to f~~~ up their lives somehow. Men there are still miserable with all the advantages they seem to have.

This is the reality – as long as a man allows a woman some part of his life she will somehow use that to totally screw him over.

You can only be free from this curse if you are truly MGTOW or dead. I prefer MGTOW thanks very much.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

@yumbo that was not my question. I didn’t ask if it could exist. I asked if those conditions existed, “how many men would remain married?” This is a relatively simple question. Once again I am not asking if these conditions can exist. Just answer the question.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

For sure they do, one thing which is food for thought is why don’t Mothers tell their sons not to marry ?

Its as if the womens union is more important than their sons happens, though typing this now they would want grand children so they will happily ruin their sons lives.

Scary really.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Wally wrote:

I remember the last trip I went on a fellow, who had been married three time, stated “when your married and she has your back, it’s the best thing ever, unfortunately none of the 3 ever had my back.”

So yeah, I bet a large percentage of men regret their marriage(s).

Thats funny 3 wives all stabbed him in the back yet they had his back, I know a chap who lives in Philippines he has bought his girl a house and car then all of a sudden she is leaving for two months, he was telling me yesterday how Asian women are subservient, some men never get it.

All regret it ,

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