I see this s~~~ going on and I don't see anybody doing anything about it.

[Gabriel A. KingParticipant 730]

BRANCHED OFF. That was a fair, balanced assessment.

[Branched offParticipant 11022]

Gabriel A. King wrote:

BRANCHED OFF. That was a fair, balanced assessment.

Thanks mate.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

SH3LLZ wrote:

This is where we are. When ones opinion is immediately met with hostility. This is why dialog fails. Hear me out before you jump to further conclusions.

Welcome to reality of those opposing nationalism, whom show nothing but violent hostility towards wanting to improve one’s life.

SH3LLZ wrote:

Im not trying to “SHAME” anyone. And honestly I agree with you in most everything you said. I hate to see whats happening in Europe right now. Its terrible that they are literally being over run.

Open your eyes. You stated that nationalism breeds “hatred and violence”. You have that reversed. Globalism and tyranny breed hatred and violence that leads to revolution. It is just that revolution usually takes the form of nationalism in the sense of the people creating their own nation, or overthrowing the tyranny that has oppressed the people.

Nationalism without revolution is stability that creates peace through setting bounties to protect from outsiders whom wish to destroy the people of a nation.

SH3LLZ wrote:

But, my fear is that “nationalism” goes too far and easily allows hate/violence against other races and cultures to creep in. Its that same as the far left. They traffic in self hatred and is causing this country to splinter.

The splintering is being intentionally done by those against nationalism. Nationalism creates unity which prevents the divide and conquer tactics of the globalists.

SH3LLZ wrote:

Look, I’m not trying to get into a large convo about this. Im a centerist minded individual. We are part of a global community. We only have one planet to live on. But i dont agree that people with no money should move into my backyard and started using my cable grabbing food from my fridge.

You have fallen for the false “right versus left” dynamic. The truth is the dynamic is nationalism versus globalism.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

It’s only racist if you’re white.
Cultural icons like Poop Dogg can bash white people all day and it’s considered funny.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Gabriel A. King wrote:

Gee that’s funny how you don’t mind discriminating against white people and our countries.

Ever heard the term “white community”… ? YOU NEVER WILL.

Incorrect. I never said that and I dont agree with it. I dont agree with discrimination of white people at all. I think people should be shown respect.

I feel STEREOTYPES are actually a good thing. Because it allows the eccentric aspect of culture to be understood in a humorous way. Everyone should be able to laugh at themselves and understand that some things that are not understood in other cultures will seems funny.

At the same time trying to force people to deny their heritage so that they are not threatening to you is wrong. You wouldnt like it if they did that to you.

Further, think of the Late Great Anthony Bourdain. You can learn from other cultures and love them just by opening your mind and allowing yourself to not be closed off. It will enrich you as a human being, which we all are.

NOW THE FLIP SIDE…

I DO NOT AGREE that an invader society and culture should come into a free country and DEMAND sanctuary and DEMAND that other should conform a free and open culture to a repressed or war torn ideology. This is AMERCIA, we dont dress our women in trash bags. I will never understand how FEMINISM calls wearing a hijab “EMPOWERING” or how the swimsuit competition os degrading but slutwalks are empowering.

As MEN, I think we all understand what it means to build and create society and infrastructure. Women have no such claim. No matter what nation you come from. (my longest post yet)

Finally I will say, history has shown that certain nations have plundered others and rape them for resources. Thats not my point.. My POINT is that as MGTOW in this day and age, the cultural disparity is not of MEN against other MEN. WE are seeing a gynocentric destruction of everything that keeps the world running at the most efficient levels in human history.

Is the world perfect? HELL NO! People arent perfect. Greed and selfishness rule in these last days. But as a MGTOW and understanding what Im seeing I DONT want this place to turn into a place that advocates for hatred between race, color or creed. And thats what NATIONALISM breeds. “HAIL TRUMP” Is he a god to you?? An “emperor? a king??? Hes a modern day Nero! Dont let the identity politics infect your common sense!

WE ARE ALL BROTHERS HERE… Whew…

That was a lot to try to cram in quickly…. I hope it makes sense.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

@Faustforscience

I agree with your line of thinking, but you also have to agree with the fact that going too far in any direction creates an imbalance. Thats just simple logic.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

SH3LLZ wrote:

@Faustforscience

I agree with your line of thinking, but you also have to agree with the fact that going too far in any direction creates an imbalance. Thats just simple logic.

Thank you.

Though, I disagree. The current situation is the imbalance, with nationalism being the balance. The imbalance being that destruction of prosperity and transfer of wealth from western nations to the hands of the few.

As President Trump has point out, to this point, for the last several decades, the economy has been a one-way street where the rest of the world benefits from economically and culturally harming the American people.

This cannot continue. But, with the election of President Trump, the situation has gone sideways, where the people whom would otherwise revolt now peacefully support President Trump because he is keeping his promises and is helping the American people. While those opposing the nationalism being those whom profit from the misery of the American people and other populations of western nations. The other group opposing nationalism are the puppets of globalists whom believe they are virtuous by hating the west.

Keep in mind if globalist continues in America, the situation would have either lead to a revolution, or a collapsed nation with a tyrant whom only had nuclear weapons to rely on to impose their will on America and the rest of the world. Either situation would be worse than the current situation, which is mostly peaceful by the nationalists, though violent by the puppets of the globalists.

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

@Faustforscience

Im not political science major or an economist.I did study business management and have worked in corporate america for 20 years now. At this point Trump is an unseen force starting trade wars with this nations allies. Granted, maybe this country has been getting a raw deal .Lets sit back and wait to see if things can be changed in the countrys favor.

At this point only time will tell. We’ll just have to see. I just dont want MGTOW to become some kind of racist, political site which the media will glomb onto make us look bad. The only hate here should be of feminism and all the damage it does.

When people painted portraits of Obama with a halo, and thinking he was some kind of savior i balked. I feel the same when when I see people saying “hail trump”

SMH… Put no trust in kings or in nobles… People are too quick to put all their hopes in these clowns, and over and over they are let down and disappointed.

The definition of insanity.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Branched offParticipant 11022]

SH3LLZ and Faust, this is a good debate gents and done in a gentlemanly fashion. It can be very hard to keep the gentlemanly way up when one is talking about something emotive and I think it speaks well of you gents.

Feminism is our enemy here in this forum. The mother of feminism is liberalism. Another child of liberalism is anti white discrimination backed by whites in the name of equality. I think the whole brood of notions spawned by liberalism are the enemies of manly values and the enemies of the truth. We have to see the truth, accept it and then live together as adult men who see the stresses and strains of belonging to sometimes opposed interest groups and navigate life as fairly and honestly as they can none the less.

Obama was not the great saviour of America. I doubt Trump will be either. Had I been a US citizen, I would not have voted for Obama as all he seemed to offer (and did offer in the end) was liberal notions. They gave him a Nobel peace prize for these notions but he made no peace. To make peace you have to sit down with your enemy and see his side, then cut a deal that neither party is going to like but both prefer to war. Obama just patronised his enemies with liberal rhetoric.

Had I been an American I would have voted for Trump. This would have been mostly because he was not Hillary. I don’t like him as an individual. He is a very selfish and vain man. However he is actually listening to a group of people who have not been listened to for a long time. So I would back him. It remains to be seen if he can actually do the deals as opposed to stir the pot. My suspicion is he will not.

I think so long as we can debate these things as gentlemen it is good.

I take SH3LLZ warning seriously that we do not need to antagonise our enemies further by becoming labelled racists as well as sexists. This is well worth heeding.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[experiencedParticipant]

Gabriel A. King wrote:

Discrimination against white people is POLITICALLY CORRECT.

Funny you’ll never hear those left wing teachers talk about THE BARBARY SLAVE TRADE (1600-1800) in which black Muslims took 2.5 million white people as slaves.

BARBARIC!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

@Branchedoff

Thank you and Well said. Just a note… I couldnt stand Hillary either. XD

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5127]

Almost all White Nationalist groups are “controlled opposition” of some sort.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Nags4CashParticipant 1163]

I deal with border patrol frequently as a trucker. The most interesting thing to me is that the southern force seems over half Mexican or Mexican American.

Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.

[JVBParticipant]

Ass only
White power !!!!

Peace is > piece.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

I see the topic of Nationalism being a reoccurring theme here. I while it bares as much importance (and deserving of dialogue) as any other topic, I would certainly hope that we are taking a brief moment to strongly consider what we post on here before we commit to the post.

Comments that tend to border on hate speech, extremism, etc., are not only distasteful and disrespectful to other members, but it paints an ever increasing target on our backs. Before we are a vessel of change, we (all) are collectively targets in the media’s eyes.

I should say I have no real type of authority here. Neither administrative or otherwise. I would however ask that before posting, consider first what brought you here, and question rather or not what you have to say adds any value to the site, what it represents, and it’s other members.

Thank you gents.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[Professor ChaosParticipant 489]

F~~~ all racists

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Binary Logic wrote:

I see the topic of Nationalism being a reoccurring theme here. I while it bares as much importance (and deserving of dialogue) as any other topic, I would certainly hope that we are taking a brief moment to strongly consider what we post on here before we commit to the post.

Comments that tend to border on hate speech, extremism, etc., are not only distasteful and disrespectful to other members, but it paints an ever increasing target on our backs. Before we are a vessel of change, we (all) are collectively targets in the media’s eyes.

I should say I have no real type of authority here. Neither administrative or otherwise. I would however ask that before posting, consider first what brought you here, and question rather or not what you have to say adds any value to the site, what it represents, and it’s other members.

Thank you gents.

CHEERS!

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Professor Chaos wrote:

F~~~ all racists

YES! THIS ^^^^

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

SH3LLZ wrote:

At this point Trump is an unseen force starting trade wars with this nations allies. Granted, maybe this country has been getting a raw deal .Lets sit back and wait to see if things can be changed in the countrys favor.

That is a disagreement. I believe the trade war already is happening because of the trade imbalance for decades that has robbed the wealth of the American people.

President Trump is finally economically hitting back.

President Trump has been at this since the 1970’s. And even back then, he was against shipping jobs away. During the 1990’s, he was against NAFTA.

For those complaining he spent time with the Clinton Administration, he did so out of economic survival.

Those of us alive then remember how the Clinton Administration when after Microsoft in the 1990’s. This was not do to Microsoft opposing the Clinton Administration, but that Microsoft did not give the Clinton’s campaign contributions.

This s~~~show has been bad for a very long time. President Trump has been a breath of fresh air compared to those that were in power before he took office.

Most of those crying about this “trade war” are those that invested to profit off of the misery of the American people. Such people can pound sand for all I care.

SH3LLZ wrote:

We’ll just have to see. I just dont want MGTOW to become some kind of racist, political site which the media will glomb onto make us look bad.

They already see us like that. And we should not give a s~~~ about “their feelings”. We should be true to ourselves and that includes working towards the best deal in life we can get at all levels, even at the national level and international level.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

Branched off wrote:

SH3LLZ and Faust, this is a good debate gents and done in a gentlemanly fashion. It can be very hard to keep the gentlemanly way up when one is talking about something emotive and I think it speaks well of you gents.

Thank you.

Branched off wrote:

Feminism is our enemy here in this forum.

But, feminism not our only enemy. We must not forget this.

Branched off wrote:

The mother of feminism is liberalism. Another child of liberalism is anti white discrimination backed by whites in the name of equality.

Feminism has the father of globalism pulling the strings of feminism.

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