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So, almost 30 with minimal dating experience, and no long term relationship experience, seeing how the present nature of women are, I lost interest, but at the same time, living alone single, I am still miserable because my stupid hindbrain is making me depressed. Maybe I just need to just f~~~ some hookers in Vegas or something.
I always fantasized about some girl that actually loves me for who I am. (basically the NAWALT unicorn that doesn’t exist), and thought to myself: Well, maybe when there were few humans, people mated to reproduce, and in the 1950’s from what I heard, (correct me if I’m wrong), many women actually enjoyed making their men happy. Nowadays, even trying the dating scene over again, it seems that women want unattainable standards in a guy, a guy to always treat her like a princess. (s~~~, I don’t even expect to be treated like a king.), and I believe most guys who are married have to put up with their s~~~ to stay married, or stay together. I know guys who will lie to themselves about loving their girlfriend, because they are insecure that they can’t find another one.
After listening to Tom Leykis, I find that all these decent guys that women reject. (because by design, women are retarded in their 20s riding the c~~~ carousel then hitting the wall in their 40s), are better off making themselves more money to just lay young hot chicks. But sex is all there is. There is no love. Women do not love men the way men love women. Women like what they do for them.
And being 29, seeing most women have bitchy attitudes, (although a very few act cute and feminine, but are flaky on dates), I have lost interest and hope in finding that “one true love BS”; The more I took the red pill, the more I resented women, but it wasn’t the woman’s fault. They were born to be liars, and just give me false hope that there was this “love” out there.
But still today, after overcoming the brainwashing of the disney movies, rom-coms, I have started to believe it’s all bulls~~~. But I’m still miserable having to listen to the love songs on the radio at work. (f~~~ing Bruno Mars. Ick!).
The more redpilled I became, the more I gave a s~~~ less about finding love and marriage. My mom died when I was 3, so I don’t get to see what she thinks. My dad doesn’t give a s~~~ on what I do with my life, and my sad and lonely life with struggles to make good friends (just guy friends to hang out, watch movies, play video games), will ultimately lead me to be suicidal in my 50s if I can’t get my head out of my ass to go make some quality friends. I say, if I failed at life, then why not off myself? 1. I didn’t ask to be born in this world, let alone suffer. 2. I’m disappointed in life. This world in a way has gone to s~~~. Idiocracy and all. 3. I get bored really easy with life and don’t see a purpose in living, so I could be ready to die, but I guess I’m just waiting for future stuff, like seeing the apocalypse, VR, futuristic gadgets and gizmos as they are the only things that stimulate my mind in a way.
But yeah, I hate the fact I am still biologically attracted to women. I hate how I want to get laid. I was told, there’s no way you can deny your nature. Nature sucks, but it doesn’t care of what I think, but in some kind of form humans always have something to say about whatever feeling I share. I figured I share my feelings with my MGTOW brothers on here. Biology sucks in my opinion.
Share your knowledge with me to help me. (or at least attempt to, because I know I have to help myself, but I need more knowledge).
I can identify with much that you mention; the decline and degeneration of western society, the “ticking bomb” factor in women, frustration etc.
Still, don’t give up!
If you worry about purpose and meaning, you could join a club or organisation with an agenda that suits you.
Help veterans, assist the elderly, become a junior sports team coach, volounteer at an animal shelter etc.
Or find a physical hobby/sport that gives you a rush, skiing, skydiving, bike or motorcycle riding etc. Or learn new skills, like carpentry, metalwork, playing an instrument, a new language.The male brain is wired for challenges, problem solving and exploration. Not getting to do that can leave us feeling empty.
Maiking friends as an adult can be slow, but it might be easier if you share an interest or hobby.
Join the Military Bro
There’s a whole world out there waiting for you to go kick its ass, take names and fill you with adventures and anecdotes that will make peoples ear’s bleed in later life.
Speaking from personnel experience and no doubt other Brothers on here can testify, yes there are times when being in the Mil feels like you are being hit by the s~~~ty end of a big stick- BUT!!
The good times with your mates, who will be there for you for life far outweigh the downsides, and dependent upon what career you choose, you get to blow s~~~ up!!!
Never did me any harm- well not too much!
Women- Meh whatever, F~~~ em, F~~~ em all, ZFG – think big and do it globally!!
That is all
Life's a bitch, then you're supposed to marry one and then die- sod that for a game of soldiers!
I just remembered, this is month when schools let out for summer vacation.
That explains a lot about some of our new members.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I always fantasized about some girl that actually loves me for who I am.
Most, if not all, men want that. The desire to get love from a women is highly desirable but not possible. Once you know the true nature of women you will know that you cannot possibly get that kind of love. What you can hope for is a woman you can trust and who will be dedicated to you and your future together. One that will want to build a future and a family together with you. Unfortunately, in this day and age women are fed a lot of feminist crap and have discovered that they don’t HAVE to stay with you for resources and can do pretty much as they please in life. Of course, a study has discovered that women aren’t very happy having their independence and the “I don’t need no man” way of thinking has been detrimental to their happiness. The laws, as they are now, tend to favor women immensely. Women basically have no boundaries on their behavior and have gotten away with so much lately they don’t even have to pretend they are happy in their marriage and can terminate it at any time for the slightest of reasons or, even worse, no reason at all. They can cheat on you, try to turn you children against you and society applauds instead of frowning on such behavior. The immediate future of our society is in peril and doomed to failure unless and until we change laws to be equal for both men and women and boundaries are placed back on women. As men, we have boundaries placed on us if not by law then by other men. We have to stay within certain boundaries if we are to have the company of other men.
I am sure that many of us feel some degree of loneliness at least some of the time. A loneliness that would be gone if we could have a loving and trustworthy female in our lives. Unfortunately that does not seem possible at this time.
Even alone there is no reason for harming yourself. To help with the loneliness and to stimulate your brain I would recommend that you go to places where there are people, take some course in a field that interests you, go for walks around your neighborhood and get to know some of the people. There is a multitude of things that is much better than offing yourself. My goal that helps prevent offing myself is I want to see someone going to Mars. I want to live long enough to see even more of an effort to get us in space. Anyway, I hope I have helped. Continue to visit this site and you will find you are not the only one having these issues. Good luck.
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
I always fantasized about some girl that actually loves me for who I am. (basically the NAWALT unicorn that doesn’t exist), and thought to myself: Well, maybe when there were few humans, people mated to reproduce, and in the 1950’s from what I heard, (correct me if I’m wrong), many women actually enjoyed making their men happy.
That’s a mirage dude. It’s one of the many faces females wear to mask the truth about themselves. They were never truly happy. They “took one for the team” to get the end result they wanted. They’re patient. Doesn’t matter if it takes 10 years or 40 years. They’ll do what they have to do to get their share. Short term pain for long term gains. What risk is there for them? So they spend 20 years being married. So what? They ditch the guy after they get the goods and then move on to trapping the next simp.
Nowadays, even trying the dating scene over again, it seems that women want unattainable standards in a guy, a guy to always treat her like a princess. (s~~~, I don’t even expect to be treated like a king.)
Women are full of s~~~. Ask them what they want in a man, and their answer is always the same because it’s the answer their BRAIN tells them. They want a “nice guy”, with a “good job”, who “treats the princess like a queen”, and will “sweep her off her feet” while being “charming” and “funny”… Never the guys they sleep with. Never. That dude isn’t attractive to them. He doesn’t get her hormones raging. In fact, he makes her vagina shrivel up and tuck itself away. She’ll go f~~~ that handsome athlete, or that dangerous bad boy because they get her emotions going. They spike her body temperature. It’s what she’s attracted to.
Secondly the “princess syndrome” is the handiwork of two groups. Mangina dads, and Disney. These two groups filled these women’s heads from the time they were small with this propaganda that they’re a special snowflake. So they grow up believing that s~~~.
After listening to Tom Leykis, I find that all these decent guys that women reject. (because by design, women are retarded in their 20s riding the c~~~ carousel then hitting the wall in their 40s), are better off making themselves more money to just lay young hot chicks. But sex is all there is. There is no love. Women do not love men the way men love women. Women like what they do for them.
Bingo! So why would you invest in something that already basically holds a disdain for you deep down inside and sees you for materialistic s~~~ even though she’ll lie to your face about it? You’d be better off spending your money on a brand new vehicle on the dealership lot because even the depreciation value of buying a new car isn’t worse than the deal you get with marriage.
But still today, after overcoming the brainwashing of the disney movies, rom-coms, I have started to believe it’s all bulls~~~. But I’m still miserable having to listen to the love songs on the radio at work. (f~~~ing Bruno Mars. Ick!).
Because all that stuff is marketing towards women. There’s a reason why when you walk in a mall, a man has like 3 maybe 4 stores in the entire place tailored at him. The rest are female. There’s a reason why advertising is targeted predominantly at females over males. Why record labels pressure artists to write a plethora of ballads (because it makes money. It sells), and a reason why the majority of tv programming and movies is aimed at women. Rom coms, chick flicks… Usually plotted around 2-5 girls doing goofy s~~~, getting in trouble, fking some chad then getting buyers remorse, or going them going on some feminist “we don’t need men travel excursion”. The majority of LIFE is marketed towards women.
But yeah, I hate the fact I am still biologically attracted to women. I hate how I want to get laid. I was told, there’s no way you can deny your nature. Nature sucks, but it doesn’t care of what I think, but in some kind of form humans always have something to say about whatever feeling I share. I figured I share my feelings with my MGTOW brothers on here. Biology sucks in my opinion.
You’re biologically attracted to females because of social programming, because of how your mind is influenced by marketing and society (sex is everywhere and used as an exploitation tool to make money) and because it’s wired in our DNA to do two things… Survive and Replicate. Keeping the species going, keeping the lineage going is hardwired for survival. But just because that’s there doesn’t mean you can’t de-program yourself. Your mind is already working to do that when you see women and then the knowledge of what they are capable of kicks in.
Anonymous6I just remembered, this is month when schools let out for summer vacation.
That explains a lot about some of our new members.
Ding, ding, ding.
Share your knowledge with me to help me. (or at least attempt to, because I know I have to help myself, but I need more knowledge).
I wish that I wasn’t born with a sex drive. It almost seems to be a cruel trick of nature, but there’s little you can do to change nature so don’t get down about things over which you have absolutely no control.
The older you get and the more observations and experiences you make and have, the more you’ll find that life is based on bulls~~~. Most things are not really the way you were told they should be. But finding this out is just something we all eventually deal with.
Focus on yourself and your own well being. Don’t worry so much about relations~~~s or needing someone else in your life. We were all lied too. Accept that and just move on…
Awesome advice that you gave him Maraudrz1 👍 He needs an uncle like you my friend!
Most, if not all, men want that. The desire to get love from a women is highly desirable but not possible. Once you know the true nature of women you will know that you cannot possibly get that kind of love. What you can hope for is a woman you can trust and who will be dedicated to you and your future together. One that will want to build a future and a family together with you. Unfortunately, in this day and age women are fed a lot of feminist crap and have discovered that they don’t HAVE to stay with you for resources and can do pretty much as they please in life. Of course, a study has discovered that women aren’t very happy having their independence and the “I don’t need no man” way of thinking has been detrimental to their happiness. The laws, as they are now, tend to favor women immensely. Women basically have no boundaries on their behavior and have gotten away with so much lately they don’t even have to pretend they are happy in their marriage and can terminate it at any time for the slightest of reasons or, even worse, no reason at all. They can cheat on you, try to turn your children against you and society applauds instead of frowning on such behavior
You must own a better Crystal ball than IAwesome advice that you gave him Maraudrz1 He needs an uncle like you my friend!
I am happy to help anyway I can. But, in all honestly I don’t have much more than that. If he wishes he can start another thread at some point to ask advice. There are many good men on this site that can help as well. Thanks
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
I am happy to help anyway I can. But, in all honestly I don’t have much more than that
You gave him plenty my friend, if he takes the time and meditates on your writing it will help him for sure! Believe me I know when something comes from the heart, and what comes from the heart touches hearts! good for you that you’re that humble. 👍
You must own a better Crystal ball than IBiology sucks in my opinion.
I know what you mean, pal. We’re programmed to reproduce. I believe our species would’ve been extinct a long time ago if we didn’t have this intense sex drive. Women don’t help the situation with their breast cleavage and mini skirts.
Before the internet become popular, I used to go to an adult book store and pick out an $8 girlie magazine. I’d fap to that after I got home from my college classes or my dead end jobs. I dated during that time, but most of the ladies didn’t want me to touch them.
I wish I had some good advice to tell you. I’m just sharing my life experiences. Suicidal in your 50s? Life is supposed to get better at that stage…so I’ve heard. I think you should get a retirement fund so you can enjoy your golden years. Imagine what your retirement savings could look like 21 years from now. On your 50th birthday, you should be getting a lap dance from a woman who’s in her early 20s with nice T&A. You can shove a few dollars down her panties and she’ll kiss you on the cheek.
Enjoy your life.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Find a hobby that inspires.
You need to be driven!
Check out this guy, he does this for himself, but it carries a great message about living through adversity, or achieving against the odds.
"Society is to blame" Denton
I love my high sex drive, and I’m going monk since last september.
When I’m aroused I use the fleshlight, it’s more practical than wasting time to pursuit a pussy.
Women aren’t so hard to date, it’s just that, due a myriad of reasons, using a fleshlight is more practical.So, almost 30 with minimal dating experience, and no long term relationship experience, seeing how the present nature of women are, I lost interest, but at the same time, living alone single, I am still miserable because my stupid hindbrain is making me depressed. Maybe I just need to just f~~~ some hookers in Vegas or something.
I always fantasized about some girl that actually loves me for who I am. (basically the NAWALT unicorn that doesn’t exist), and thought to myself: Well, maybe when there were few humans, people mated to reproduce, and in the 1950’s from what I heard, (correct me if I’m wrong), many women actually enjoyed making their men happy. Nowadays, even trying the dating scene over again, it seems that women want unattainable standards in a guy, a guy to always treat her like a princess. (s~~~, I don’t even expect to be treated like a king.), and I believe most guys who are married have to put up with their s~~~ to stay married, or stay together. I know guys who will lie to themselves about loving their girlfriend, because they are insecure that they can’t find another one.
After listening to Tom Leykis, I find that all these decent guys that women reject. (because by design, women are retarded in their 20s riding the c~~~ carousel then hitting the wall in their 40s), are better off making themselves more money to just lay young hot chicks. But sex is all there is. There is no love. Women do not love men the way men love women. Women like what they do for them.
And being 29, seeing most women have bitchy attitudes, (although a very few act cute and feminine, but are flaky on dates), I have lost interest and hope in finding that “one true love BS”; The more I took the red pill, the more I resented women, but it wasn’t the woman’s fault. They were born to be liars, and just give me false hope that there was this “love” out there.
But still today, after overcoming the brainwashing of the disney movies, rom-coms, I have started to believe it’s all bulls~~~. But I’m still miserable having to listen to the love songs on the radio at work. (f~~~ing Bruno Mars. Ick!).
The more redpilled I became, the more I gave a s~~~ less about finding love and marriage. My mom died when I was 3, so I don’t get to see what she thinks. My dad doesn’t give a s~~~ on what I do with my life, and my sad and lonely life with struggles to make good friends (just guy friends to hang out, watch movies, play video games), will ultimately lead me to be suicidal in my 50s if I can’t get my head out of my ass to go make some quality friends. I say, if I failed at life, then why not off myself? 1. I didn’t ask to be born in this world, let alone suffer. 2. I’m disappointed in life. This world in a way has gone to s~~~. Idiocracy and all. 3. I get bored really easy with life and don’t see a purpose in living, so I could be ready to die, but I guess I’m just waiting for future stuff, like seeing the apocalypse, VR, futuristic gadgets and gizmos as they are the only things that stimulate my mind in a way.
But yeah, I hate the fact I am still biologically attracted to women. I hate how I want to get laid. I was told, there’s no way you can deny your nature. Nature sucks, but it doesn’t care of what I think, but in some kind of form humans always have something to say about whatever feeling I share. I figured I share my feelings with my MGTOW brothers on here. Biology sucks in my opinion.
Share your knowledge with me to help me. (or at least attempt to, because I know I have to help myself, but I need more knowledge).
Women always have been women, even in 1950, and even in 1850.
Marriage contract was a sacrifice for a man, even then.
Having sex outside marriage contract was much harder in 1950.
The main difference is that now you’re much more likely to make sacrifices for nothing, since marriage contracts tend to not last.Buy a fleshlight, and enjoy your biology.
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Share your knowledge with me to help me. (or at least attempt to, because I know I have to help myself, but I need more knowledge).
Here’s my 2 cents brother.
Learn to love yourself, care for and about yourself, realize your validation, your purpose, and meaning need not, and should not, ever come from any other place then within. Stay true and loyal to yourself.
Reading what you typed it looks to me like you have a pure soul and mind, and are struggling with the fact that corruption is all around us inside people, and that you were given biological programming that makes you desire something you wish you didn’t desire.
Well let me tell you something brother, you’re not alone, you have a strength embedded within you that is bendable but unbreakable. There is no reason to feel ashamed, embarrassed, or discouraged for something you are NOT at fault for, that being your biological programming … because though it’s part of you, it cannot and will NEVER define you. Only you can and will define you.
When your internal foundation is firmly planted in something bigger than them, bigger than their perceptions of you, bigger than the shallow world around you, there is nothing they can ever say or do that can bring you down to their level.
Thank you my fellow MGTOW brothers. I can always read up on theredpill subreddit for things to help me get laid safely while I’m still young, but I still need to focus on entrepreneurship. My brain is my own worst enemy. I get frustrated, and sometimes feel defeated early. At the same time, I ask myself: WTF dude? giving up already?
I wish I had some good advice to tell you. I’m just sharing my life experiences. Suicidal in your 50s? Life is supposed to get better at that stage…so I’ve heard. I think you should get a retirement fund so you can enjoy your golden years. Imagine what your retirement savings could look like 21 years from now. On your 50th birthday, you should be getting a lap dance from a woman who’s in her early 20s with nice T&A. You can shove a few dollars down her panties and she’ll kiss you on the cheek.
My only fear is having my retirement plan confiscated by the government where all that contribution goes to nothing. For anyone who has read Bachelor Pad Economics, or Poor Richard’s Retirement from Aaron Clarey. (Hell, go to youtube to see what Aaron Clarey has to say about it for free.), it’s something not guaranteed.
I need to make money first. But not just by p~~~ing away my time to earn a paycheck. It’s got to be with online businesses that don’t cost hundreds of dollars a month. Still banging my head against a wall to figure that out.
Friends are overrated bro. Only you are capable of pulling yourself out of your own self pity. Look in not out. Good luck brother.
Peace is > piece.
Anonymous3Rejoice, for within 2-3 years your desires will fall off a cliff.
Your entire post has an undercurrent of someone who is worrying way too much about what she wants and way to much about her needs. You measure your worth by her standards. I love my biology and my nature. I just don’t let a woman enslave me with it.
The minute you forget woman exist is the same minute you have to start pushing them away.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
I can identify with much that you mention; the decline and degeneration of western society, the “ticking bomb” factor in women, frustration etc.
Still, don’t give up!
If you worry about purpose and meaning, you could join a club or organisation with an agenda that suits you.
Help veterans, assist the elderly, become a junior sports team coach, volounteer at an animal shelter etc.
Or find a physical hobby/sport that gives you a rush, skiing, skydiving, bike or motorcycle riding etc. Or learn new skills, like carpentry, metalwork, playing an instrument, a new language.The male brain is wired for challenges, problem solving and exploration. Not getting to do that can leave us feeling empty.
Maiking friends as an adult can be slow, but it might be easier if you share an interest or hobby.
YES! on all your points.
I have been asserting concepts very similar to your post. Early humans evolved in such a way, that there were three male archetypes:
1st male evolution – Hunter. Early humans success was due to increased brain size. This increase in brain size necessitates high levels of animal proteins and fats up until the end of puberty. Who can have the offspring with the best brain = who is the most skilled hunter. Who was the most skilled hunter = the man with the biggest brain. The evolution of the hunter was the reason behind the explosive evolution of the brain. Ever notice that one of the classic archetypes of guys who are in various cerebral tech and science fields, is the tallish slender guy? Body type is in fact the first hunter evolution, taller to see prey, long legs to cover distances quickly, excellent power to weight ratio, and highly flexible. This is because early hunters turned into skilled toolmakers, these toolmakers in modern history became scientists and engineers etc.
2nd male evolution – Warrior. As early man became increasingly successful, many factors required a warrior caste. Firstly to protect the hunting areas, warriors were required to patrol the borders to scare off competing tribes. Secondly, to ensure protection of offspring and women from raiding tribes and predatory animals. This evolution is quite evident to this day, tallish but with higher muscle mass and more barrel chested. Why are guys like that great at sports contact sports like football, or badassery like being a Navy SEAL, well it’s quite obviously the modern version of that physical and mental evolution.
3rd male evolution – Explorer. This is very straight forward. As early man became increasingly successful, he had to expand his hunting grounds to support massive tribes. With competing tribes, the only way to do this was to go on exploration parties. Ever notice there are almost NEVER any ground breaking female explorers? Women simply don’t have the spine for it. You will notice that most women travel to places as status symbols, or “just because”, but men most often have very specific things in mind to do or see while there. The body type and brain wiring of men became very diverse at this point, some physiques are more suited to exploring and settling in specific topographies and environments.
So what we have here, is that modern society has created a matrix that crushes down most male instincts. This has become a persecution under socialist SJW political correctness. Hunters are reviled and vilified by the Liberal Leftists, not sure why, but it’s as simple as that. Warriors are persecuted for their inherent “all in” male traits, unless it is to be disposable for female protection. Willing to die in war, so the c~~~s don’t have to, you’re “allowed” by them to be that. Willing to die at work to provide for them with wages, or to build things they are to weak and mentally inferior for them to do, then you’re “allowed” by them to do that. Explorers are loathed by women for their wanderlust and “don’t tie me down” attitude, unless we are exploring resource laden places that are too dangerous or unpleasant for there weak spines, then you’re allowed to do that.
I fall into the “Hunter” archetype in every possible way. Once I took up hunting a few years back, it was obvious to me that is what I am, and it has changed my entire outlook on life. I also realized I required intense outdoor activities in my life, it could be anything from skiing to a hike, when I don’t do it in a while I crave it like the strongest drug in the world.
All men should find a passion that physically engages them, and stimulates male instincts, and it should be something that gets them out of the house. Take up a male dominated sport, or maybe physical outdoorsy activity that women tend to avoid. Other possibilities include expanding the knowledge of things males are programmed to do, take a class in something women suck at, like a welding class or some trade at a community college. There are endless possibilities out there…
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