I really don't understand;help a brother out

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

yesterday I rented some DVD’s from my public libray.One was about a ex musicale exec that got a job in straight in corporate America. His wife quit her job to do a marginal job raising 3 yr old son. He introduced his new boss a described ” Ball breaker” who has hit wall and wants child and off c~~~ carousel .He tells her wife was going back to work and only quit for a child and was going back to work.The camera panned to his wife,she gave look saying “the hell I am going to work again”. She was spending every cent and collection agents were calling Daley.She knew that he was sleeping with his new boss,but never said anything until he wanted to start a new record label with rock star and things would be tight while getting started.She was fine with her husband sleeping with hit the wall boss when his new boss doubled is salary and got upscale new car and no need to pay of credit cars as she went out and got new credit limit to match new income. I have seen this attempt on me and others get his nuts in economic vice right off the bat to hell with what he has to do to get it.I get it.They do this because they can and it works.What I don’t get is why all the guys do all that s~~~ to hang on to half their s~~~ because they do not want to lose that fine house that he has no say in at max he has man cave in basement.Here is where I do not get if trapped ,why not walk away .He quits job in ass big shot in grocery chain that he is lucky to buy six pack goes to work in Canyon Country Store and be a clerk trying to get back into music game and still get six pack money after court garnished wages and gets to f~~~ all the hot L.A. would be movie stars that are working as waitress.Here is where I need help.How is it that guys are shamed out of ever saying WHATS IN IT FOR ME.Why can they not ask why am I giving her leverage to some one that has lost a lot of looks and sex drive the power?why do these guys let her retain power that father time stole from her.She has the government on her side,but if he works but has no money as the old saying goes.”Sue a beggar and get his lice” comes to mind .I way laid off whe oil patch had down turn like the one now.If I was doing my old job in patch I would be making $160k /yer. I do not know what unemployment is not. When it happened back in the day.I went from boat captain to some one drawing pennies. I was just not married.I had to play game with government to get unemployment that I paid in .I decided to have some fun with bureaucrats.I was to go to state unemployment to look for jobs they did not have as good jobs are found by head hunters mostly not the state. you show up with bureaucrat and sign in so to make believe he was doing some kind of jobs.I told this prick I know that you only have minimum wage jobs.I told him I want the job that does the least for the minimum wage. He tried to shame me”that is a bad way at looking at things” I said the jobs on that list are looking for some one to do the most for the less pay.I understand it from that point of view.I told him I was selling my labor as a service and I wanted to provide a minimum of service for a minimum pay. His reaction was like Arlo in Alice Restaurant and the draft board.It was hard to not rolmfao.
My point is why do so many guys do the “right thing” for a women and bureaucrats that have utter contempt for him.I get the child part but often child is brainwashed against him and she may spend a good bit on it on Chad,Why do guys not walk away from bad deals before it goes that far.A trick the good pussy goes away and she says it will come back if he does such and such.My answer is women are crazy and men are stupid. Is there other explanations why some many guy do stupid things and do the “Honorable thing” and not do Bat Turn before villain spring trap?

[experiencedParticipant]

For a man to realize that he’s been fully programmed is like Bruce Willis in, “The sixth sense”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYKSWQmkrg

For him to realize that he himself is dead is something that he has to grasp from his very essence, outward.

MGTOW, every day, “see dead men…. walking”

Except for us there’s the choice to no longer be dead, but to reject that whole thought structure as having been absolutely corrupted against men.
Sadly, when this is internalized, women will resort to very manner of subterfuge to attempt to pull us back into the lie. Sadly for them. They see “Live Men, Living”, whom they will never be paired with.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 3]

Funny, I was about to post something about this subject.

I was impressed by this concept from “the manipulate men”, that lying will only work when most people are truthful.

So the females manipulations only work when men are honest and truthful. If everyone tries to openly manipulate and cheat others, nobody would succeed.

So, I guess the problem is our perception of the world. We are indoctrinated from birth to be “good boys”, and all social queues point into this direction: religion, moral, ethics, the media, books, and anynone we talk to.

It takes some practical experience of life, and a very open mind to see that in reality a “good boy” mentality is that of a victim.

And to compose the problem, our identity is tied up with these crippling values. So, if we abandon them, what would we become? How do we live with ourselves?

It is not easy. We fall prey for the idea that knowing how things are will somehow fix them, or that we can do better. Its a trap. It doesn’t work.

Most men are not equipped to engage in the same kind of emotional and manipulative games women do. We are to logical, to emotional and even physically not build for this. We are build for direct, intense but short conflict situations.

Women are hardwired for social/emotional manipulations. It requires lack of logic or empathy, and a physical adaptation for prolonged low level conflict.

Is there a solution even?

The only one I see is MGTOW.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

My biggest regret is I mgtow was not there to give me info.
David Allen Coe helped my figure my way

[Mr_OptionsParticipant 298]

DAC (David Allen Coe) is my kind country singer.

A man without a woman is like a fish without a hook.

[MadmanParticipant 772]

He did an album with Pantera.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

r.i.p dimebag

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

shovelheadrider wrote:

Why do guys not walk away from bad deals before it goes that far.

Shovelheadrider-

Great question.

There are probably many reasons why men don’t walk away from bad deals.

I think many men look at a relationship as it could be rather than for what it is. Men are sometimes guilty of wishful thinking. “Life could be great if she were only nicer to me”. Men have to accept reality. – she is treating you horribly and you need to get the hell out.

Also, change sometimes is hard for people.

In my opinion, if you are not being treated well, then it’s you who is abusing you. Since becoming MGTOW, my tolerance for mean women is close to zero.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear

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