I really can't find any value in friendship with a woman

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Women are just useless in my eyes nowadays, since I am not interested in re-producing with a woman (i.e. having sex is too expensive/risky nowadays).

[hdvrodParticipant 1109]

Friends are your friends with no other agenda.

So that disqualifies all women.

Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

[ironheartParticipant 949]

Actually yes, women can be valuable friends. I know because I grew up with some that were worth the time. But they were all tomboys, so they got men and what I was about. I was able to have good debates and conversations with them, and they genuinely tried to understand the gender differences.

It also gave me a good window into how so many of them got warped and corrupted by the social bulls~~~ that they started to buy into.

But then golden pussy disease set in, and I lost contact with most of them when they went off to college to chase the rich boys. In fact the one I was going to marry at 19 dumped me for a rich boy, who beat her half to death every day for two and half years. She was too sick in the head after the end of it all, when she finally left him. I couldn’t get through to her damaged soul, and she ran off to B.C to find the next asshole.

It was a big part of what swore me off women as reliable companions.

Then as I got older I met a few more who for a time were sensible. Then baby rabies usually set in, and they were off riding some bad boy. After they got dumped they turned into Mommy Nazis, and that was the last I ever heard from them. All are man haters now from what I seen of them.

Now that I am too old and past any good expiry date to be a Daddy, the women treat me very differently. A lot of them that want to f~~~ me, but get no attention. I am loyal to the one I share life with now. Assuming it lasts, which is unlikely because I am frankly tired of the s~~~ from that.

Loyalty confuses the s~~~ out of women. They cannot grasp the concept, except when the guy has money. When the money is gone, I know the chick is too.

It really is heart-breaking sad to see that our generation were such a great big f~~~ up thanks to the femi-nazi movement.

The only value I find anymore in friendships with women is to see what examples of bitches they are, and too understand their thinking patterns for the book I am working on. I managed to educate a few of them as to their mistakes with men, but then they just go off to a hen weekend, and come back with the same brainwashing intact.

The only value is making it easier to spot the warning signs of when to step back or run away from the soul hunting man-haters when they are on the prowl for you.

Ghosting is fun. Too bad my family line ends with me.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

ironheart wrote:

Loyalty confuses the s~~~ out of women. They cannot grasp the concept, except when the guy has money. When the money is gone, I know the chick is too.

Yeah, their hypergamy just completely overrides any former attachment. It is truly validates that we are nothing more than mere utilities.

Men are never human beings, just human doings.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 0]

There isnt any value in friendship with a woman as a man. She will alsways see you as a resource, orbiter, ect whatever her hamster wheel decides. She will never see you as the friend you see in her, never have the loyalty of a friend, nor the respect. When you allow yoirself into her circle of influence under the title of friend or whatever it is, you become a pawn in her games. Your role may change from time to time but thats it. Walk away from it.

Tomgirls are no exception. Sooner or later they want to be a c~~~ princess too, and youre now only a pawn, resource, valadation. Ect.

If your the guy she goes to for a f~~~ its all good and fun untill the crazy comes out. Your better off doing a pump and dump on some bimbo youll never see again.

The only possible value in friendship with a female is learning from it about the joke of female friends and an insight into women if your young and dont know better.

After a couple youll never want anymore if youve learned.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

All friendships I ever had with women only went in one direction:

Me helping them out.

And I gave them a finger and they tried to tear off my arm.

All of them, no exceptions.

That’s what actually convinced me for good that I am valuable and that women are not “the prize”.

Women are a full blown liability that never ends.

They all wanted everything and got nothing.

It always takes me 3 to 7 days being with them to see through them and “decode” their psyche.

And to see behind their agenda and uncover their lies.

Then I know why I dump them and abruptly discontinue my stream of “good deeds” for them.

So it always went.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[WarloccParticipant 204]

I don’t entirely agree with this assessment.

Although perhaps in my case it’s because they’re online only- we get connect regularly to play video games.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Gargamel wrote:

All friendships I ever had with women only went in one direction: Me helping them out.

That was the story of my life with women!!! Not any more!!! Women are all strong and independent now and they do not need a man anymore, so they can just help themselves… Feminism has freed men from female demands/expectations, if you embrace it fully/properly.

[Bloody HeartlandParticipant 693]

Lately I’ve got back in touch with one who was a bit more casual and only really to practice my Japanese with. I’d left after a while of just not seeming to be good at it or get much of a connection due to language barrier.

Did feel a bit guilty just having cut off without much of a goodbye. Notably she’s been the only one to message me saying anything about missing me. Uncertain whether much of this was me being impolite or if it’s blue pill conditioning making me feel bad for relatively harmless stuff.

Simple as the conversations are, it is nice to have some kind of female company without all the drama, as well as any legal danger. That said, I’ve also enjoyed talking to Hidetaka Suehiro, who is surprisingly open for a celebrity, even if not a huge one in the gaming community, and he seems to know more English and can talk about more interesting stuff. So at present I’m not sure what I want to do at this point, perhaps other than to enjoy being sought after by a woman for pretty much nothing in return for once.

I will agree wholeheartedly that it is near about all women who aren’t worth much more than conversation nowadays, any anyone you can understand clearly is probably going to be an airhead anyway, as well as all about themselves. I have trouble finding any here aside from some coworkers I have to put up with and are generally just too old to indulge in hypergamy for the most part.

"I have the fury of my own momentum." "With this ring I thee wed. Fire walk with me."

[Anonymous 2]

The only women I am friends with are ones I grew up with from childhood. I do set strict boundaries with these women, and believe it or not, that’s how you get them to respect you. The minute you give the slightest impression that you want to get into their pants, their respect for you takes a nose dive. I learned this very early in life by watching the way my friends would get treated by women when they let the woman know they were interested in them. They know if they come to me whining about their boyfriend being a dick, I’ll just hit them with cold truth and say “Then you have two choices: either dump your boyfriend or quit your bitching!” Most of the time they just want to hang out and watch a football or hurling match, or see some live entertainment because they want to get away from all the drama that their female friends create. Women can’t even stand being around each other for very long.

[Gabriel A. KingParticipant 730]

It’s ok to have some female friends as long as they know you are either NOT, or at best only mildly interested in sex. Or even “interested” but don’t actually give a s~~~. As long as you keenly understand the first 2 rules of women:
#1 Women are all nuts
#2 Women are all crazy
Female friends can be fun and add spice to your scene…. just don’t let them monopolize your time or priorities in a way that’s damaging. You can even give or lend women small amounts of money if you want. Or they might just lend or give you some. The point is FRIENDS needs to be understood, benefits pending or no. WHEN IN DOUBT, PULL OUT.
And if you find yourself having feelings at any point deeper than casual meaningless sex or friendship….. just go home and beat yourself in the head with a hammer in front of the mirror saying “You f~~~ing idiot !” over and over until it passes.

[Gabriel A. KingParticipant 730]

“resource, orbiter” LOL. That dissipates quickly when you don’t call her for over a week… and she finally realizes you TRULY don’t really need her for anything.

[Gabriel A. KingParticipant 730]

THAT’S BRISK. But it also begs the question…. how do you view them ? As sexual utilities OBLIGATED to service you due to your payments and attentions ?….. or as friends and people, who themselves have assets and problems ?
I just do what I do for the good of the tribe. Not for repayment or expectation of obeisance from those who are obviously inferior to me, and in fact, dependent on me for their ultimate survival.
Being MGTOW, is about expecting THE WORST from others. Yet pulling yourself up by your boot straps and doing the right thing irregardless. You can depend on your brothers in MGTOW, and God.

[OldBillParticipant]

After fifty plus years, my number of female friends can be counted on one hand. Nearly all those friendships began in a business or professional manner rather than social one.

I’ve written before about female friend whose relationship with me began on a purely social basis and has remained that way for well over a decade. She’s worked in a number of high end auction houses and I value her friendship because of her knowledge regarding painting, music, theater, opera, and other arts. She’s an absolute pleasure to attend a gallery opening, play, or concert with.

Several years ago when she realized my regard for her didn’t extend to a romantic or physical level, our friendship nearly ended. While women constantly bitch about wanting to appreciated for their minds, when this woman found out I didn’t want to f~~~ her she was insulted enough to almost end our relationship.

When women accuse men of having only one thing on their minds they’re projecting their own failings.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sjt1975 wrote:

Feminism has freed men from female demands/expectations, if you embrace it fully/properly.

I am a full blown “feminst” and “equalist”. That’s why the c~~~ leeches always run as fast as they came.

If they criticize me for anything I never hesitate to call them out on their fat ass.

Equality.

Since no c~~~ ever had a sense of humor, that takes care of them.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

I live my life almost exactly like Nikola Tesla. No marriage, no kids no sexual relationships, celibacy for life…just focusing all my energy on my passion in Electrical Engineering.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Ask yourself this question, if a girl you are friends with was a guy, would you still want them as a friend?

If not, drop her.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Every “friendship” I ever had with a woman was always because she wanted something from me: Money, Fixing something broken, etc. There was always a materialistic motive involved.

I still have a few women “friends” in my social circle that I made in the past…but I keep them at “arms length” now….and when I move this fall…they will be even further away.

[hdvrodParticipant 1109]

OldBill wrote:

When women accuse men of having only one thing on their minds they’re projecting their own failings.

May I take that one step further and declare that women ALWAYS project their own failings. The sooner men learn that the sooner they will rid themselves of any feelings of inadequacy or low self esteem. Whenever she accuses you of not measuring up, she is merely projecting her own shortcomings. But she doesn’t have the ability to face up to it for herself, hence she is making you the fall guy. Every f~~~ing time.

Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

[Branched offParticipant 10980]

Resource seeking makes them bad friends. Hypergamy is the killer. You don’t trade up friends but that is what they do with men. I know you are not sleeping with them if you are their friend but they will still trade you up if a better resource, more interesting guy / better connected guy/ chad comes along. You don’t trade your mates up, even if some hot girl comes along she has to know she can’t separate you from your mates but women would drop you in a heartbeat (or at least consign you to a yearly sympathy visit) if they see better.

When I first met my late wife I asked her if she had any male friends. She replied “Men and women cannot be friends”. I thought “you are my kind of girl. If we get together, your honesty has made it a whole lot harder to cheat on me”
I told the same line to the last woman who said she wanted to be my friend. She said that was bollocks and she had loads of platonic male friends. She was pregnant by the end of the next month.
I won’t be letting a woman try to be my friend again. One way or another you will pay.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

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