I needed to know this forum exists.

[WhiskeyLord69Participant 8]

Hey everyone. Stumbled upon this forum. After going through the subreddit and lurking for a few minutes, I’m more than happy to join.

I know that MGTOW stands for more than just the relationship between males and females. It seems to me to be a movement against society’s idea of masculinity. That’s what I’m getting out of this.

Anyway, my story? Well, I gave up on women last year. I’m 23 years old and I spent a year engaged. After we split up, I dated around a little and it went absolutely terribly. Nothing but entitled girls who want money in exchange for nothing but nag, nag, nagging.  Some just wanted money and items just for the sake of having them. Some just wanted no strings attached sex. I don’t stand for any of that. Is that normal? A guy who turns down hookups but also can’t be bothered with relationships? I’m tired of having my chain yanked. I’d rather be celibate. I’d rather retire my penis and divorce the entire opposite sex. I know that NOT ALL WOMEN are like this, but in my experience, enough are to devote my time to myself. I don’t hate all women, but I can’t stand the ones in my life.

Maybe some people in my life think I’m a loser for having this outlook. I don’t think I am. I’m pretty much financially independent and graduating college this year. I don’t have a very good job but I’m a hard worker and I find it rewarding. I’ve been athletic since high school and I make it a top priority. And on top of that, I don’t even think that highly of myself. I’m nothing more than a normal guy! I just feel like I’m at the point where I can be done with the bulls~~~. It’s been a year since I dated. Know what I did today? I worked on one of my finals for school for seven hours, watched three hours of Netflix, went grocery shopping, and did cardio for an hour while watching Batman Begins at 11PM. None of the girls I’ve been with would let me be alone for that long. And I know the signs to look for now, which is good. I can stop myself in my tracks now when I look at a girl and feel mushy inside. I can, and have turned down the girls who have asked me out. All I can think of is “This girl will more than likely try to control everything about my life if I get involved with her. I’ll be sleeping, shaving and s~~~ting on her clock. How about that really cool novel I’ve been reading? I can’t imagine I’d have time to read it if I give her my time.”

So that’s my story. Maybe I’m some kind of cynical, celibate, nihilistic jerkoff. But I’m Fifty Shades of Done with this vapid “reality” that I live in. I don’t want to get married, I don’t want to have kids. I just want to go to school, go to work, and then watch Trailer Park Boys all night. I’m checking out.

[Anonymous 2]

Welcome brother! Why would anyone here think you are a loser? Controlling our urges and no longer letting them rule our every move is a key ingredient to a sovereign, masculine life. The way I see it, man no longer has natural enemies to protect women from, and women think themselves capable of sustaining themselves and lead happy lives. We should leave them to their own devices unless they are capable of giving back, of mutual exchange, of improving your life! Other women are simply obsolete, why bother indeed!

Withholding sex from nagging bitches is smart, we are in this to improve our lives, it’s not a popularity contest. Why would you even care someone thought you a loser? The great think is that you don’t have to, as you are very capable of defining your own goals in life, and carving out a path towards them. I personally think it’s a great move to not even hook up with these women. Use their interest as leverage for the ones you do want, or simply don’t bother with suiters and roll the dice on happenstance, or not at all.

NOBODY in this world can stop you from watching Batman, and attributing value to the fact you can. If YOU think that it’s important to relax and watch series, IT JUST IS. End of f~~~ing story. Sovereignity like that is worth so much… these nagging bitches can’t compete!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Welcome to the MGTOW party, Whiskey.

WhiskeyLord69 wrote:

Is that normal? A guy who turns down hookups but also can’t be bothered with relationships?

Who cares if it’s “normal”?

“NORMAL”… is just the mid point between what you WANT — and what you can GET.

If you don’t want either, “normal” plays no role.

It’s SENSIBLE. What’s the BEST thing that happens with a quick hookup?
A simple sex act and a possible pregnancy (or STD).
Nobody can blame you for passing on that.

WhiskeyLord69 wrote:

But I’m Fifty Shades of Done with this vapid “reality” that I live in

LOL!

You’re among friends. Hope to read more from you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

welcome to mgtow your making the right move…Enjoy the forum

this may get old to some, but im gonna keep this in my post, for those who have not heard

The definition of MGTOW .  If some of you have not heard I managed to publish it three times on urban dictionary.com  I up-vote all three once a day,  every day. I noticed 6 down-votes today.. so I have taken to down-voting all the others  1. by blue bastard=down  2. by trooper555=down 3. by mgtow for life=down  4th  5th  6th all copied and pasted from this site=up-vote  Hoping everyone here will spread the word and push our definitions to the top of the page….

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW&defid=8156669

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[DakotaParticipant 341]

WhiskeyLord69 wrote:
“I’ll be sleeping, shaving and s~~~ting on her clock.”

You might only be 23 but, that my friend, is the most accurate and succinct view of American life I’ve ever heard.  Don’t doubt it for a minute.  It’s ALL about her and her “clock.”

Let’s see…college graduate, works hard, stays in shape, AND has learned the true nature of women all by the age of 23.  The world is yours and nothing can stop you…except vagina.  See pic above.

Welcome to MGTOW.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Hi Whiskey and welcome,

It’s nice to see a bunch of younger men arrive. We have three main groups from my observations on the forms.

Men 35+ who have divorced (possibly multiple times) and are done with the crap and taken the Red Pill.

Men 35+ who had given up but were unaware others had come to the same Red Pilled conclusion. (this is me)

Men 20-35 who have some (mostly bad experiences) and have listened to the older men and are heeding the warning.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Whiskey, welcome to the NEW normal, it’s always been there, we just missed it, until each of us realized it in our own particular way. You’re on the right track! Welcome! Enjoy the forum………

[Anonymous 0]

Hi Whiskey, welcome. Cool man 23 what an Age. Be clever my friend, then you are free…ya know what I mean. It would be a good thing telling us where are you based, if you like. Here is the link….you see us MGTOWs worlwide.

/forums/topic/mgtow-demographics/

CHEERS!!!

[GrefParticipant 203]

Welcome to the forums Whiskey!

Enjoyed your story you’re a good writer. What degree are you graduating with?

WhiskeyLord69 wrote:

I’m 23 years old and I spent a year engaged. After we split up, I dated around a little and it went absolutely terribly. Nothing but entitled girls who want money in exchange for nothing but nag, nag, nagging. Some just wanted money and items just for the sake of having them. Some just wanted no strings attached sex. I don’t stand for any of that. Is that normal? A guy who turns down hookups but also can’t be bothered with relationships?

What’s the story about your ex? How did she blow things up and ruin the engagement?

23 and you don’t even want casual sex, f~~~. I’m the same age I wish I could go there. Biology is too strong man.

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[Anonymous 9]

Welcome Whiskey. As you read the threads you will see how much in common you have with a lot of us here. Hope you enjoy the journey!

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I’m Fifty Shades of Done with this vapid “reality” that I live in.

If someone asked me 10+ years ago if I would agree with this quote, I would have said no. But now I cant agree more.

F~~~ing Kardashians…All the “reality” shows…Womens “liberation” then CELEBRATING and FANTASIZING about being the sex slave of a rich man?…

How is a level headed, honest man to navigate himself in this world?

Its sick. Truly. F~~~ing. Sick.

Back in the days before my time (Sinatra big swinging dick) it was supposed to be fun to chase skirts. Now, its just a pain in the ass.

If I have learned one thing about women its this: the less I care, and the more I treat them as other creatures who want to f~~~, the more tail I get.

One can clearly see how this is an unromantic, disenchanting, new found REALITY of modern women. And if you havent figured it out yet, heres why:

You see, we MEN are visually stimulated. Women are not. So when girls have their: t~~~ and asses pouring out of the shreds of slut-walking “clothes” all of the blood thrusts into our loins and swells us up letting us know we want to f~~~. Not later. Not in a few f~~~ing minutes. Right…F~~~ing…Now.

Women are not as prone to this proclivity as we are. They are more touch stimulated than sight stimulated. As such they get to hold the cards to sexual temptress, yet have a thousand and one c~~~s thrown in their face at their willing disposal.

Now its their equal “right” to f~~~ around? They get to act like a prostitute choosing which dick they want to ride and WHEN, and also want a guy with: MONEY AND looks, AND personality…If your “lucky” shell let you use her pussy after shes had 200 other c~~~s.

Its sick.

Resident cynic.

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