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I have a thought in my head and an idea I want to execute but not sure if I should or how smart it would be to do. I am in the final stretch of my Sociology class and I am starting to prepare my final assignment which is about 35% of my total grade. I want to do it MGTOW but I feel like it would kill my final grade. I am currently holding a 99.2% in the class and the little bits of MGTOW ideas that I have released into the class so far have been received less then favorably.
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The assignment is to collect 20 articles on Sex and Gender that relate to corresponding chapters that we will have covered by the 27th of November. Then to right a summary on each and how it correlates to sociological theories we have studied so far and make a short 3-4 minute presentation to the class. I can use the all of the great articles you guys have linked in these forums for my content and I can write up the paper no issues and make a short video that will be sure to blow some minds in that class.
My only issue is if I should do this or not? I related to the class yesterday that I had no desire to get married and holy hell the response I got was vicious, but nothing I could not handle. The reaction I got that was surprising was from my Professor. Usually when I speak some MGTOW truths he lets the class just beat me up but I have no issue with that as I always figured it was to risky for him to take a side in that sort of thing. But when I said I was not getting married ever and had no desire to be in a relationship he tore in to me big time. He openly mocked me and all I could do was sit there in stunned silence. He was saying things such as “Oh no it looks like the woman that was going to be your future wife will end up on my couch (he is a clinical therapist that specializes in troubled families) because she will need therapy to get over the lose of not marring you”. Some pretty nasty things so say the least. Of course the class joined in and I will not lie, it took everything I had to sit there and hold my head high not give in to the hate and leave the room, but I did hurt me deeply.
I had never given him a reason to fail me. My assignments are perfect in the logic and usage of the theories if sociology and my research methods are sound. I have aced all of my exams and have only missed 2 question out of 350+ questions given so far. I want to do this final assignment as a giant f~~~ you to him and to everyone in that class and to fly my MGHOW flag proudly but I am not sure if it is worth it or not.
I will hold not anyone accountable if crap hits the fan and I end up having to repeat this course, I am prepared to do so if necessary. My final choice is my own and I will own it. But I would love to have your thoughts on this?
Anonymous14I am a college dropout so not the right person to say anything about this but I’ll just say this if I were in your shoes, then if failing would affect my career somehow, I’d give it a second though. Because I believe, in life common sense is just as important as courage to stand by your own convictions. Discretion is sometimes the better part of valour.
But to be quite honest, I have hardly ever been discreet in my life and always stuck by my convictions regardless of how difficult it made things for me and how better off I’d have been, in every which way if only I had been a little less obstinate.
I would certainly have been way better off career wise but still, even if I’m not and even though most of my family full of doctors and engineers and big time lawyers and accountants have officially marked me a loser and a black sheep, I’ll wager I sleep way better than they do. 😉
But thats me and this is you. Your life your choice. Make it a good one. And as a fellow MGTOW I can tell you, regardless of what you decide, you Sir make us all proud because its really the thought that counts.
All the best. 🙂
You are behind enemy lines. Do not give yourself away to the SS. School and even university is not about reasoning any more. Walk the party line, but to make it more fun and pretend to be a radical self hating man. I did a masters degree. In one assignment I wrote about the “pornifcation of our youth” I think I may have even talked about toxic masculinity. They ate it up and I got a first. You cannot afford to have principles in school. When you are a free man then you can have principles.
SexyMGTOW (a tuber) got kicked out of college for his MGTOW antics.
By the way, you’ll look back at the shame you suffered in class with real pride soon enough. Well done brother. The hurt will convert into strength of character.
If it were me, i’d totally do it the MGTOW way.
If you give up now, it’s like saying, “fine, you guys win”
But on the other hand, it would be extremely risky.
I’m also a college drop out, left cause the content was pathetically easy. I ended up acing everything, while skipping all of my classes. Then they got upset that i haden’t shown or even stayed for a single lecture during the semester LOL. ( i coerced people into emailing the homework assignments ) Did the same thing in high-school, except i didn’t even bother with doing the homework lol. In highschool, i skipped 2.5 years (inc. suspensions) of accumulated class time, by my 11th grade, i was no longer able to skip and classes else i’d be kicked out of school, but i managed to play the system and get half days in my last year of school, managed to graduate while attending slightly less than 3 years of actual class time lol.
Also, every suspension that i ever got, was because of correcting my teachers.
In my 9th grade, i had 57 suspensions for correcting my math teacher – every math class i’d walk in few mins late to give her a chance to do something, and i’d literally take the marker out of her hand, correct the mistakes that she had made, and walk to the office.Soooo0o, i’m not the best person to ask for advice when it comes to doing your school work 😛
My Goal: To Leave Society.
@jambear – my thoughts are:
YOU are precious for all MEN – actually there’s a terrible educational gender gap: 68% degrees are earned by females, and 32% by MEN. And the gap is still widening. Why this gap? Because colleges and universities are anti-manliness GYNARCHIES! We desperately need that more MEN earn degree!
YOU’RE NOW BEHIND ENEMY LINES – MY ORDERS (I can be your father, I have a degree, so, right, these are MY ORDERS!!!) ARE:
1) NEVER NEVER NEVER TALK ABOUT MGTOW!!!
2) NEVER NEVER NEVER OPENLY CRITICIZE FEMALES!!! Even when some female will be openly and absolutely stupid: NEVER CRITICIZE!
3) NEVER NEVER NEVER DATE FEMALE STUDENTS!!! (If you need a female: Milf bars)
4) BE SILENT, BE QUIET, APPLY YOUR EFFORTS ONLY TO STUDY.
5) BE POLITE, AND QUIET, EVEN ON THE SOCIAL NETWORKS!!!
6) DON’T CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE OPINIONS OF OTHER MALE STUDENTS: Half of them are animals for slaughter, and they will be slaughtered by gynarchical educative system.YOUR PROFESSOR IS A MANGINA
I also suggest you (this is not an order, it’s up to you) to get the member card of a LGBT association: it’s THE BEST safeguard against false accusations, because in such case you will say: “are you kidding? I’M GAY! I’M EVEN MEMBER OF A LGBT ASSOCIATION!” 😉
The better thing would be to pretend to be a gay who esteem females but “sorry, I’m gay!” 😉ALWAYS REMEMBER:
“THE BEST LACKS ALL CONVINCTION”
Anonymous14@HotNoob
Ah, high school. The best years of my life. After serving 6 hard years in an elementary school full of feminist nuns and abusive female teachers, our high school which was a boys only school was like heaven. Its name was The Salesians of Don Bosco, you may have heard of it, has branches worldwide. Once in 9th grade a stupid c**t of a history teacher with hardly any knowledge of history said something very insulting about our dads and one by one, each and every boy stood up and took turns to tell her what kind of conniving whores women have been right from the days of Cleopatra. She stormed out of the class and went to Fr. Principals office and submitted her resignation. Our whole class was suspended for two weeks!
When we returned to school after the suspension, Fr. Rector(the guy in charge of the school above the Principal) called us to his office and asked me since I was the class monitor(prefect) why we did it. I replied “Father, since the motto of our school is Scientia et Servitium we did this school a service by removing a person with limited knowledge”. He smiled and told us next time just to lodge a complain with the authorities instead.
Our suspension was right before our second term exams and we all did exceptionally well thanks to the two week holiday 😀 Those were the days 🙂
Sorry for the offtopic
@Triklops, Awesome story!
Just EPIC!
My Goal: To Leave Society.
@jambear That’s so awesome.
What I wouldn’t give to be able to go back to school and do a class presentation on MGTOW. The girls I went to school with would all have been crying by the end.
Rolling up my sleeves, this would be FUN!
But… it’s all in the delivery..
Whether you should do it or not depends on your ability to get away with it. Mentioning specifics about YOUR personal beliefs (i.e not wanting to get married) doesn’t lend as much credibility as speaking in the aggregate. You want to stay away from them being able to critcise YOU, personally.
Even you said when you mentioned YOUR reasons, some guy openly mocked you personally.
Don’t give them the oportunity.Just look at our website. You will notice what has been written is signed “MGTOW”… and not an author’s name. Because it doesn’t matter WHO says it. It only matters what is said. Big difference. If I signed it using my name, it gets written off as a personal opinion. But by signing it “MGTOW” it comes from a small army of men. A completely different message.
You will also notice much of our video and audio content was published and created by OTHERS. So when we get personally attacked for it, we can tell them to f~~~ off. If they have a problem with it, they have to take it up with the original video author.
See what I’m getting at?
For example, instead of showing reasons why YOU don’t want to personally get married…. write about why it’s insane for any man to sign a marriage contract and how it fails a cost/benefit analysis. This is not debatable! Talking about the marriage contract is different than talking about “marriage”. Marriage is personal. But the “contract” is LEGAL.
You could also take another angle completely. Remember that tactical nuke “marriage is for gays”? Well, that’s not something they can even debate or fail you for. Because being “pro-gay marriage” is not something anyone can bust you for.
It’s all in the delivery.
If you sincerely believe that it will kill your final grade and it fails a cost/benefit analysis – don’t do it. Because you may not be sure of yourself enough. You would have to be a rock and ready for anything. Being even slightly unsure of yourself won’t help you here.
But if you KNOW it won’t harm you, and you are sure it’s as watertight as a frog’s ass….. then do it.
I want a full fcuking report.
PS. I am in total agreement with Vader on this.
Also, a MGHOW I read online once said: don’t go against the world too much. MGTOW is not something you need to be overt about. You only need to internalize it. It comes out naturally in your posture, and attitude. It doesn’t need to be made public to work for you. You can’t “sell” it to other people. It’s a calling. The red pill means you are already better equipped than most guys. They don’t need to know your secret. Maybe keeping your 99% average is a better idea here. Maybe.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I am very proud of you for taking a stand. You are destined for greatness. Keep your positive attitude, it will help you win the game of life.
Here is my take on this.
When it comes to feminist infested world that we live in, the game is already rigged. It’s like walking into a casino that is rigged, no matter how well you play you will never walk out with chips in your hands. You are going to lose every time. So the best thing to do is never ever go into the rigged casino to play unless you want to lose every single time.
I had big realization that world is already F*cked up so bad, it’s best to not play the game that is rigged. Instead do the best you can to grow and win at what ever you pursue. Don’t waste putting your energy in a game you can not win, no matter how hard you try. Save your energy to pursue all your big dreams and personal desires.
If you want to win, it’s simple don’t play a rigged game. Not playing is winning in some games, in my book when it come to feminist’s and their flawed ways.
It’s like trying show the sunrise to a group of people who are completely blind and have no hope of ever seeing the light. Focus on getting an excellent grade, us it for better battle’s to fight in the future that will help you achieve your big dreams.
Best thing to do is to be very careful with games you choose play in life. Only play a game that you have a good chance of winner because the game is fare and not rigged. Good luck. I am here to support you regard less of what you choose to do. You will learn form every experience you have, good or bad, so it’s not the end of the world.
Try and walk a middle line mate? Throw in a few comments here and there, backed up with evidence but dont do the whole report solely on mgtow views as you are correct and theyre not commonly accepted or viewed positively by most.
This is YOUR life, YOUR views. While I dont doubt you feel strongly about it, and certainly want to encourage others to feel the same; to do it in a public setting invites the mass-mind to rebel against the idea due to fears of group-castigation. It deals with the mob mentality.
If you want to help others realise the reality then its best to do it 1 on 1 with them where you can reason with them more openly whereas publicly is alot harder due to that mob mentality I mentioned earlier."If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"
I wouldn’t fault you for going over your teacher’s head (doesn’t deserve the name professor in my opinion) and complain. Sure, some guys here might not like that approach. But I think it is good to twist the gynocentrics’ own knobs on them, same with insane liberals or conservatives.
Either way, wow, you literally stood up for your MGTOW beliefs and that is awesome – much respect!
This asshole probably thinks you are making a really big deal about MGTOW as an expression of this sentiment: “Hey world, listen to me, I want you all to be thinking of me, since I am a young and thus self-centered person, and I will project this desire onto other people and believe that the world DOES indeed care about my views on marriage, and so I will talk about them a lot.” But in truth it is YOUR CLASS, YOUR EDUCATION, and YOUR MONEY being spent so you can do that if you want to. Really, I doubt that you are talking MGTOW non-stop, and if you are, it is only because you are trying to get a real discussion of it and they are too weak minded to help with that.
Do the plan you laid out, do it hard, and make THEM feel uncomfortable and stupid like they are.
Keep on trucking!
If it doesn’t affect your career/education then go ahead, otherwise a bulls~~~ class like Sociology is not the place to make a moral stand. You could try writing it like a piece of satire, where you say what they want and believe to be true, until the end where you show the research that says the opposite and then say that you are unsure why the data is not congruent to our beliefs and whether our beliefs need to be updated or something like that, so you can say what you want, without p~~~ing off the borg collective.
In your place, I would do a risk/reward and cost/benefit analysis before making a decision. (I totally understand the temptation to zing the prof, totally.)
The prof has proven he is a prick. Will your paper change his mind about things? Will it change your classmates minds?
You get the satisfaction of expressing your ideas in a paper that only the prof will read. What else will you gain?
What can the prof do to you, at no risk or cost to himself? We know he can scupper your grade. Can he also make your life difficult outside of class? For example, can he file one of those phony harassment charges I’m reading about these days?
You can live with a ‘B’ or ‘C,’ but an ‘F’ or an ‘incomplete’ is a whole different story. Getting expelled by one of those academic harassment tribunals would be a disaster for someone who needs a degree to get into his chosen profession, in addition to losing all those tuition dollars.
Full disclosure: I once had an ‘A+’ knocked down to a ‘B’ because the prof “didn’t like my attitude.” This was a math class, where things are supposed to be objective. I had all the test papers, but there was not a thing I could do without a major effort — written complaints to the Dean, going to committee meetings, and so on. I let it slide. The cost was too high for the benefit, and the reward was uncertain, unlikely even. No one in the real world cared about my grades, as long as I had my degree.
There was no way I was going to change Prof. Worm’s mind – no reward for me there.
Final answer: In your situation, I would go with this advice from Sigma London:
You are behind enemy lines. Do not give yourself away to the SS.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Thank you for the advice guys. Based on the last few classes the attitude in the class seems to be getting more hostile towards me. Those of you who are saying it is not worth losing my academic career over a s~~~ bird class like Sociology. I have decided to not rock the boat and maintain my GPA. I am going to try to transfer to USC in 2016 and I do not need this useless class f~~~ing that that. I have run the risk / reward analysis and it is not worth my future to say f~~~ you to this guy. If I had time to retake the course I would but since I do not I can not take the risk. Sorry for those expecting an epic MGTOW truth bomb. I may type up the report and someone braver then me will want to use it.
Anonymous14If I may say it on behalf of all our MGTOW brothers here, there is nothing to be ashamed of because you did the right thing. Common sense is one of the biggest human qualities lacking in this world today. And as I said earlier, the saying “Discretion is the better part of valour” is more often true than not.
We don’t really need to measure each others dicks to know how much of a man we are, we are what we are and nothing in this world can change that. And it takes a lot of courage and self control to say no sometimes, especially to oneself.
Way to go. You deserve and electronic pat in the back. 😉
I may type up the report and someone braver then me will want to use it.
You can always post it on an anonymous social media page. Prof. S~~~ Bird need never know who.
Frankly, I’d like to see it posted on this forum.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
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