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Not entirely sure if this is the right place, but it is divorce related.
I just found MGTOW a few days ago, and that same day I had a brief visit with my grandmother. She was relaying the latest developments in my cousin’s ongoing separation battle. Afterwards my mind wandered back to a moment in time late in 2008, to a situation where I thought I did the right thing. And then it hit me like a slap in the face: I f~~~ed up. Every man needs to be in charge of his own destiny, but without my intervention things could have been different. So to share the tale:
In late 2006 my cousin got me a job in the oilfield. We were roommates and also worked on the same crew, it was a lot of fun. About 6 months later he started dating a girl 5 years younger than him. I never really got a good feeling from her, seemed like a split personality or maybe just a good actor. He never seemed truly happy with her, but it was sort of tough to gauge. Our work was away from home, so he’d head home on his days off to be with the girlfriend. She’d occasionally come to visit on a weekend while we were working. Anyway, near as I could tell he was close to breaking up with her. And then that life changing news: she’s pregnant. He didn’t speak as to how he felt, but I could tell he was uncomfortable with the situation. He decided to quit his job and find work close to home to do “the right thing” and be a father to the child. And in true oilfield fashion, we had a going away party for him on his last day and the booze was flowing like crazy. The town bicycle was at the bar, she was all over him and he all over her. Now, I am not an outspoken person. Not even close. So when I told my cousin “think about what you’re doing”, I feel like the impact of my words may have stopped him in his tracks. Whether that was one of those “butterfly effect” type moments or not, I’ll never know. But it just hit me now that it very well could have been that had I stayed quiet he would have cheated and destroyed the relationship he was in.
As it turns out, the reason he was uncomfortable was she trapped him. “I’m on the pill, don’t wear a condom, yadda, yadda”. And then she pulled the goalie. She “thought he wanted a family” and made the executive decision to stop taking her birth control. He paid to put her through school, bought her a more reliable car and later a brand new SUV. Sold the modest house he had paid off and moved into something twice the size and much newer. All while things were less than peachy. Any time I stopped to visit for a weekend, it was always an uncomfortable situation. She was less than hospitable and I was slightly disturbed by the way she would turn something as minor as a discussion over what to have for supper into a war. I could tell things were degrading, he was a man just existing and quite clearly contemplating making a split.
And then just as he seemed close to pulling the pin, it happened again. Number two is on its way, go figure. He says in retrospect he should have clued in. She was never intimate with him, and then she was suddenly all over him again, quite clearly with a purpose. But for him this was enough, he finally decided he couldn’t live with somebody trying to control his life while at the same time trying so hard to make it unbearable.
His battle has just begun, and I must say it is ugly. Fortunately, it seems he has a pretty good lawyer and is a level headed guy, and better yet is dealing with a judge that isn’t an idiot. His ex, on the other hand seems willing to cut off her nose to spite her face and almost every move she makes backfires. He’s slowly gaining ground, but regardless of the outcome he’s going to be as broke as the day he was born. But worse than that, the ex is using the kids like pawns right now. I hope they can make it through this undamaged. Sadly though, despite that red pill dangling right in front of him my cousin has not grabbed it and shoved it down his throat. He’s got a new woman. She seems nice, but then again most of them do try to seem nice.
So there it is, a moment I’m stuck thinking back to. My idea of damage control may have actually done more damage in the long run. I don’t blame myself, but I do wonder “what if….”.
Family court trick that an oldy letting the man think he is winning.Wait till the court order is written.Another chick in his life.Some dudes don’t learn and have to learn the hard way.All you can do is sit back and watch.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
If you had let him have his way with the girl, there would have been a different set of circumstances. He may have been better off with a breakup, but he would still have a child with seperated parents, but you would spend the rest of your life blaming yourself that it was all your fault, and would have felt responsible for the “good” marriage that might have been.
So.. no need to feel bad.
Anonymous18She was never intimate with him, and then she was suddenly all over him again, quite clearly with a purpose.
She didn’t quite try to save marriage by getting pregnant the second time.
She bought time. But it backfired.
Essentially this woman didn’t have an exit strategy. Make no mistake that the second child was only going to buy her the time she’d enjoy her life at his expense and then jump.
For the f~~~ed up things your friend has done, him standing his ground and divorcing her is a good call.
He is (presumably) still relatively young and can build his wealth.
Unfortunately the scars of having children away and turned against him will remain.
Every man needs to be in charge of his own destiny . . .
Yup.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I never really got a good feeling from her, seemed like a split personality or maybe just a good actor.
Most of them are pretty good actresses. However, once you begin to see them through red pill lenses, then it’s pretty easy to see through it.
If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.
Welcome brother,I’ve spent some time in the Patch too
and the Gold Digging honeys are all around,they can smell money like a shark smells blood. Most of these guys don’t know what hit ’em till it’s too late.
Fortunately for me I was pretty much MGTOW so could see thru their song and dance routine and just ignore it.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
You site a split second moment in time when you think you could’ve made a difference.
Your cousin has been making poor choices for years and years.
Even without your intervention, she would’ve ‘forgave’ him for the time being. He is her meal ticket.
Just my perspective.
Punks- Not Feeling Lucky Since 1971
She was never intimate with him, and then she was suddenly all over him again, quite clearly with a purpose
My first thought when this comes up is whether the second child is even his. She could easily have been cheating on him and got knocked up, so she ups the sex with her husband to make sure he thinks the kid is his. Maybe I’m just a suspicious old bastard, but women who see a man as nothing but a resource to be mined shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Did number 2 come early?
Order the good wine
So there it is, a moment I’m stuck thinking back to. My idea of damage control may have actually done more damage in the long run. I don’t blame myself, but I do wonder “what if….”.
What if he had gone in another direction? What if he kept getting her pregnant?
You friend doesn’t have control of his life.
What will he do?
He will divorce this one and create another single mom who will go find more. He will get another woman and create more accidental kids.I have a problem with women but I also have a problem with men like your friend. He is always the victim in your eye. S~~~ just happened to him.
Bulls~~~, he never grew up and took responsibility for his actions. Power of the pussy. I get it. But when you have 2 kids it’s game over. Might as well shoot for 10 kids.
Peace brothers
” She’d occasionally come to visit on a weekend while we were working. Anyway, near as I could tell he was close to breaking up with her. And then that life changing news: she’s pregnant.”
Should have told him to get a DNA as soon as the kid was born.
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