I love being right, could use advice on how to proceed.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

A few months ago I wrote about a friend who invited me to a BBQ in the spring. His GF invited a bunch of her friends (most of them single mothers) and she tried to hook me up with one of them all while pretending to be my friend, using his e-mail. I warned him that her behavior (snooping through his mail, Facebook, etc) wasn’t going to stop. I was right. I love being right.

She gave him s~~~ when he returned from a bachelor party in Calgary because he went to a strip club which she apparently forbid. She found out about the strip club after snooping through his phone. He is angry because she is nosing through his phone and because she is starting to exert her control an him. She pulled the “I’m angry so no sex” thing. She has a part time job (no child but desperately wants “a couple”) and needs him more than he needs her . He called me knowing what I was going to say. He’s looking at me for advice and the advice I’ve given is:

Dump, move on and NEVER look back. She gets a couple of kids from you and your her servant for the rest of the kids lives. He is a blue pill guy and wants children but I’ve said he could do better. Anything else you think I may have missed?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I understand that women are controlling in general. Especially when they have selected their DNA donor.

However, in my experience, overly and overtly controlling, manipulative, and snooping normally indicates that she has something to hide herself.

You won’t get what she has to hide out of her girlfriends. The ‘Sisterhood’ won’t break ranks. My guess is that she has some alpha dick on the side or has something in her past she doesn’t want your friend knowing.

publicdata.com – if you are looking for past convictions or divorces.

If you could get to her phone, then you would find out just about everything. You may even consider installing some sort of spyware on her phone to track her text messages, and her location. Make sure she doesn’t have a second phone that she uses for things she doesn’t want him to know.

Also, check not just her facebook account but the facebook accounts of her friends.

By the way. I was seeing a woman my age for a while. She has since moved out of town. Anyway, she took me to strip bars. She enjoyed the music. I enjoyed the titties. We both got laid at the end of the evening. It was a win – win.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Have him read this article:
13 Lies Men Tell Themselves to Stay in Bad Relationships
http://shrink4men.com/2015/08/29/13-lies-men-tell-themselves-to-stay-in-bad-relationships/

If he needs more, then …
Have him read this book, so he can figure out how she is manipulating him (buy it used to keep your price low and no royalties to the man-hating authors):
How to Keep Him on a Short Leash by Jessica Rubin, Lindsey Musante
http://www.amazon.com/How-Keep-Him-Short-Leash/dp/0061862754/

If either of the above has him ready to make plans to save himself, then …
Have him read The Manipulated Man from the Books section of this site. Be warned, it’s strong stuff. A shortened version is available as a free download it you search for it.
/books/

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

RoyDal wrote:

How to Keep Him on a Short Leash by Jessica Rubin, Lindsey Musante

RoyDal wrote:

The Manipulated Man

I just orders both of those from Amazon last night.

Excellent Advice!!!!

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Jon the Ex-SquidParticipant 298]

“Just imagine how much worse its going to get as she grows older and more insecure.”

Or.

“Do you think that shows she has respect for you?”

Or.

“Wow. Dude. Do you think that’s messed up?”

All things to prod his mind towards drawing his own conclusions. If you say something, its just that: you saying something. If he thinks about it, visualizes it, then its his thoughts.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Good advice so far, thanks. Complicating things is his Dad is giving him the Blue Pill “happy wife, happy life” apologize and make up advice.

I won’t lie, I really want him to walk away.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Ask him to think on this.

If this (giving him orders, snooping through his personal emails, p~~~ing off his best mate, using sex as a weapon, plus whatever else she may be doing) is how she’s acting now, before he’s married her, signed the contract and before she has a couple of kids to hold over his head. Just how bad does he think it will be? Tell him to imagine for just a minute the sheer hell that will be his life if he is crazy enough to either marry or father a child with her. Dad’s “happy wife, happy life” mantra should be ringing very hollow by now.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

His eyes are closed right now. You need to open them, and while talking to him about this would work if you had time, you don’t have that luxury. He’s about to get married, and there is likely an oops pregnancy ahead of him. It’s admirable that you want to save him, but if you want to succeed, you need to unleash the full power of MGTOW and quickly.

The only way to stop this train from running off the tracks is to slam on the emergency brakes.

Ask him to spend ONE day with you. Go fishing or somewhere quiet while you have a backpack. When you ask him, tell him you want to give him advice on how to be a good husband and make his wife happy (his fiancee WILL wonder who is taking her future provider away for one day, and he is completely beta at this point so by saying this, she will let him go with you).

Go fishing or somewhere, and just chat with him and get him to vent how upset he is with things. Listen and agree with him. Have him bring up times she has been horrible to him.

Then, open the backpack you brought, and take out an article that shows female manipulation, the marriage trap, the baby trap, etc.
Nothing too long- you want it to be easily digestible and to the point because after he reads it is the critical period. An example of a suitable article would be any one of the stories fellow MGTOWs have posted here about their ex-wives.

You need to show him the common strategies used by women such as crying, playing the victim, going to his family for peer pressure. Show him a few MGTOW videos if you want to. And you need to do it all in a very short amount of time- less than a day.

Then, you just pray. Tell him about this website and this URL where we are talking about him so he can follow up for more info.
If he returns to his wife in the mood that “I’m going to talk about this and fix my relationship with her,” you’ve failed.

He needs to go back to her calm, wish her nicely, and that night move the hell out with his critical stuff as you wait outside their residence in your vehicle.

[FrankOneParticipant 1442]

Roydal: How to Keep Him on a Short Leash is available on Scribd: https://www.scribd.com/read/163654498/How-to-Keep-Him-on-a-Short-Leash

Scribd is free, but to download contents to PDF’s, you pay a nominal monthly fee, $8 as I recall. It is MARVELOUS. If you don’t pay, you can still read, but most have an internet connection & can only read within the browser.

Why does she have only a ‘part time’ job? What is her net worth compared to his? Ask him who stands to lose more if the relationship doesn’t work.

Do they live together, and does she pay half the rent? Does she pay for dates when they go out?

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Tell him women are experts at making men complacent zombies. The longer he stays with her the further desensitized to her behavior he will become. Sex, food, and occasional favors by her will ensure her victory. If he doesn’t wake up now, he never will.

A fool at 40 is a fool forever. Wise words from my father.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[pharmerParticipant 407]

just DL it now. Works. seems legit.
https://archive.org/details/VilarEstherTheManipulatedMan

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

I asked if he would like to talk over a beer tonight and he is coming over. Apparently I’m also on the list of things that are officially banned by her as well. This works out since I can point to her running his life already. The 13 lies article I’ve already e-mailed him.

Oneforfreedom wrote:

He’s about to get married, and there is likely an oops pregnancy ahead of him.

Oh I guess I didn’t say, the bachelor party was his cousin’s not his. So I do have time but you are correct about the accidentally on purpose pregnancy if she think he is slipping away.

BritGHOW wrote:

Dad’s “happy wife, happy life” mantra should be ringing very hollow by now.

I think that is why he is talking to me. He knows I’m MGTOW and if he asking me my advice I think it’s because he wants to be convinced she’s not right.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Fermat wrote:

Tell him women are experts at making men complacent zombies. The longer he stays with her the further desensitized to her behavior he will become. Sex, food, and occasional favors by her will ensure her victory. If he doesn’t wake up now, he never will.

A fool at 40 is a fool forever. Wise words from my father.

I would use ^ that advice. Do it now, if you can, or he never will.

When Fermat is on to something, he’s on to something.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Voidraithe wrote:

I asked if he would like to talk over a beer tonight and he is coming over. Apparently I’m also on the list of things that are officially banned by her as well. This works out since I can point to her running his life already. The 13 lies article I’ve already e-mailed him.

You’re a good friend. If he is interested encourage him to make an account with MGTOW and to read some of the other members’ stories.

Are you sure the 13 lies article was not intercepted by his fiancee? I think that she could have control over their e-mail account…

Best of luck!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Voidraithe wrote:

Dad is giving him the Blue Pill “happy wife, happy life”

More like happy wife, C~~~-trolled life for the man.
The second intimacy of any level is used as leverage, it is time to take the trash to the dump.
Why is it some people cant see the parallels with this s~~~?
If a man withholds intimacy, financial, emotional, or physical support to a child, a woman, or an animal it is considered ABUSE.
However a man can have this done to him and it is NORMAL?

Park the tramp on the curb. If you/him/any man, feels the need for the abuse, cattle prod your nuts and save a ton of cash.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 11]

The bad thing about being MGTOW is how often we’re dead on right.

As long as that c~~~ controls him, any attempt by you to correct him will be manipulated by her to strengthen her position. The day when he begins to get his fill of her bulls~~~ I’d start slipping him some red pills.

Patience and timing are crucial. As much as you want to help him, do not rush the process. Eventually, her hold will loosen. I’ve had to suffer as long as six years for a buddy.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

RoyDal wrote:

How to Keep Him on a Short Leash by Jessica Rubin, Lindsey Musante

RoyDal wrote:

The Manipulated Man

I just orders both of those from Amazon last night.

Excellent Advice!!!!

Buyer be warned the manipulated man will have you overdosing on red pills!!! I warned ya

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous 5]

He’s a lucky guy. He hasn’t got her pregnant., signed a marriage contract or got an STD.
Not sure why he’s bitching about the “Withholding sex” thing, it’s a perfectly legitimate manoeuvre. Does he think any type of long term relationship with women guarantees sex on tap.
Sex is a drug that’s given freely to hook men and once they’re hooked it’s very expensive indeed. It’s a taste of things to come for when dealing with women’s conditional affection.
Sex binds men to women and then it allows them to control men for the life of the relationship.

Unfortunately, this poor woman has already turned from NAWALT to AWALT. They’ve either moved in together or he’s given her some type of emotional ownership that’s triggered the change.. The biological change is out of her control. It’s significantly decreased her chances of lassoing a slave
Again, he’s a lucky guy. He’s already experiencing a “wife” without being trapped first.
If only I or many of the guys here had had such a golden window.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Update:
The beer went well. We had a long talk I think was productive. He did receive the 13 Lies and read it (and can has told himself 8 of 13). This fight started a week ago and he changed all of his passwords after thankfully. I asked why he didn’t last time and he said he trusted her. After convincing him that this wasn’t going to change as a pattern he laid another big on on me. She is very well liked by his parents and his Mom is starting the “Where are my Grandchildren” talk. I discussed this and even pointed to #13 on the 13 lies 13. Everyone will think I’m a bad guy This includes his parents. They don’t have to get married to a dishonest and untrustworthy bitch. I talked about how all of this is really manipulation.

All I can hope for is he does the right thing. Fingers Crossed.

[Anonymous 11]

Excellent news!

He’s lucky to have you as a friend. Fingers crossed here too. A least you can have the peace of having tried.

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