I know crazy, so read this if you don't

[DarkFictionParticipant 71]

As I implied in my introduction I have run into one woman in my life that was off-the-walls crazy with nothing but dysfunctional short-term relationships in her life. I’m going to describe her insanity to you in detail, so that you can avoid this sort of person. The unfortunately reality is that crazy comes in a lot of flavors, but they all share remarkably similar traits and behaviors. For more information start by checking out the cluster-b personality disorders.

I know crazy, because very soon after I met her she said that “she’s that crazy plant lady”, and I thought it was quaint. Eccentric. This is really simple: if someone identifies themselves as crazy then in my opinion GTFO is not an option. It is the only reasonable, rational, next action. I didn’t take the hint, because back then I still believed that there’s no Evil with a capital letter in the world. More fool me.

Crazy doesn’t have any personal boundaries. Crazy will talk about anything and everything, if you just ask. And that includes some really messed up stuff, so if you point-blank ask about her traumas (present or past) and she launches into an hour (or two) long monologue about her problems, then you are staring straight at crazy. Crazy will also invade your privacy at every opportunity and feel no need to explain herself, because crazy thinks that crazy is doing what she has every right to do. What she ought to be doing in the first place. No need for explanations.

Crazy also doesn’t tell you when you have hurt her and should stop – even if it’s an accident. Even, if it’s something that could be fixed by talking it over in a regular relationship. Crazy just takes everything and anything as ammunition for later. Crazy doesn’t say when you have hurt her, because that way she can keep you guessing as to what she is really feeling. She can keep you off-balance and vulnerable for a strike that comes with such savagery that it takes you down with one hit. And when you are down it’s time to keep on kicking without mercy.

Crazy collects obedient followers, not friends. Sycophants. She doesn’t ask for anything, but pleads to be rescued from the wrongs of the world. And when someone rises to the occasion by White Knighting her cause then that person gets all the adoration and love bombing they could possibly ask for. And that reinforces a really toxic cycle I have experienced first-hand: the sycophants keep on White Knighting and the crazy keeps on getting gathering more and more followers.

Now to specifics: how does it feel to be with crazy? Like you are on top of the world. Make no mistake: Love Bombing is very addictive. It is why religious organizations of various flavors use it in their indoctrination. If you have never been subjected to it then count yourself lucky. Like I said: at first it feels like you awesome and you can do no wrong as long as you keep on paying attention to her and nothing else. She keeps on giving you attention, while you give her new experiences and fill her life with something that approximates to joy. Except, since you are now dating a sociopath she doesn’t actually feel what you are feeling. To the best of my understanding what they feel is akin to the rest of the population taking a hit of their favorite designer drug. They get a high for a little while, but soon afterwards they get bored with what you are doing. They need constant variety and new forms of entertainment.

How it all ends seems to be the same every time. They get bored, distracted by something else and move on. However, before they do that you are in for a world of hurt. Not because you have done something wrong, but because someone with a cluster-b personality disorder will entertain themselves with your pain and suffering. And I have no reason to believe that they don’t know exactly what they are doing. This is where they use all of them ammunition they have previously collected on to cause you pain. For their entertainment. They will start picking fights over nothing. They will throw things at your face that you have forgotten about, because it happened months ago. They will subject you to emotional abuse until they find someone else to play with.

Understand that someone with a cluster-b personality disorder doesn’t see you as a person. You are nothing more than an appliance. And you don’t form an intimate relationship with your smart phone. You use it until it gets old. Then you throw it into the waste bin, because recycling or refurbishing is too much effort, and you get a new one.

I have tons of more information on the subject, but there’s your primer on crazy. Spot it and avoid it, or you will be sorry you didn’t. I don’t care who you are, because this sort of crazy will mess up your life in ways that you wouldn’t believe are possible.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Welcome Fiction.

I remember prior to 2009-2011, I would sense “crazy” very fast. One glimpse of it, and I cut it off. I wouldn’t even wait for signs of “crazy” anymore, and decided if she’s not a lovely, friendly and smiling person, that’s it. Bitches don’t stand a chance. I also established 3 basic requirements that virtually ask nothing from her.

1. Respect my time and property. Break something? Replace it. Mock my clothes, style, or car? Get the f~~~ out and walk home. Show up late with bulls~~~ excuses and no courtesy text to let me know in advance that you might be late? You’re history.

2. I gotta be having FUN. I can be a good friend when times are tough, but if you’re a buzzkill , pout often and a drag to be around, I’m out.

3. Be Direct. Want something? Got a problem? Tell me straight out because I’m not interested in guessing or being a mind reader.

When you present these 3 things to women, they appear to be all for it! But it’s shocking how quickly they break all three.

Not sticking around long enough to wonder “is she crazy?”.
Basics first.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

You put a lot of thought into your post. My first ex went full blown Bi-polar. I have lived what you are stating.
I didn’t welcome on your intro I will do it here. Welcome

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Wow. Your story really rang a bell for me. I believe my ex is borderline and my mother histrionic. Both cluster b as you well know. It was a living hell dealing with that craziness.

Welcome. Look forward to hearing more from you.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[Anonymous 54]

Oh I Know crazy.

Welcome Dark Fiction

Cool avitar. I dig gears!

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Welcome man, I enjoyed your post.

I recognized one of my former lovers in it.
The love bombing came right off the bat, and boy is it intoxicating. You are what they have been waiting for, the needle they have been searching the haystack for. You are funny, smart, amazing, they respect you so much, and they show it!

I was straight out of my divorce, and at my weakest for this sort of attention/ affection.

I only had one like this, so I don’t know how long that lasts in most cases, but it was usually a week or 2 with her, then you spend the rest of the time trying to get back to that place. It is like trying to swim to an island. You swim and swim, and you get up on it finally, and then the next day you wake up, and everything has changed again – inexplicably. You are back to being out to sea, with the island just a dot on the distant horizon.

Looking forward to reading more as you share.

[Anonymous 43]

Crazy is stabbing me and then buying a kitchen renovation to make up for stabbing me. Crazy is beating on me in the middle of the night because she had a dream I was cheating on her. Crazy is getting DNA tests for her friends and sisters children to see if any of them are mine. Crazy is buying a car we really didn’t need. Crazy is dreaming up huge expensive plans, and blaming me for her failures. Crazy is tracking devices, car chases, kicking in doors, private investigators, weekly court dates and then not showing up. Crazy is tattoos, piercings, large irrational purchases and Chads.

Crazy is poisoning kids against good fathers. Crazy is calling up my parents and telling them I have terminal cancer. Crazy is calling my employer to harass me at work and at school.

Yes, I know crazy.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Welcome good post bro

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Anonymous 1]

Holy b~~~~ may 7. What a nightmare.

[DarkFictionParticipant 71]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

I only had one like this, so I don’t know how long that lasts in most cases, but it was usually a week or 2 with her, then you spend the rest of the time trying to get back to that place. It is like trying to swim to an island.

Having had extensive discussions with other people on this topic the answer seems to depend on the person. The crazy I was with got rid of me after five months. Her previous “boyfriend” lasted for three months and I really never cared to know about the guy that came after me. I assume that by now she has gone through several other guys. I have heard horror stories about relationships that lasted for years or even decades. However, in all of those relationships there was always a self-destructive or submissive element.

The reason why my relationship with crazy ended was because I got openly aggressive. By the time that that thing ended she was afraid of me. Afraid to look me in the eyes. Afraid to be in the same space with me. Afraid to talk to me. And she deserved every little bit of that anger.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

My ex wife turned out to have borderline personality disorder (a psychologist/therapist I knew actually said she was pretty sure about it). It was one of the most disturbing feelings I’ve ever experienced watching how quickly and abruptly she turned on me. I still feel uncomfortable even recalling those first few days.

Thanks for the post, Dark Fiction. I think it’s right on target.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[ArgentavisParticipant 64]

Been with crazy for 10 years. All my resilience used and abused. It’s all true.

The least we can do is warn others for crazy.

Good post DarkFiction.

(Lovebombing: a total new and disgusting concept for me)

It takes space to spread your wings

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

They’re all crazy. You have to figure out what kind and what you can deal with…and for how long!

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Xavier MaloryParticipant 65]

Silver Fox wrote:

My ex wife turned out to have borderline personality disorder (a psychologist/therapist I knew actually said she was pretty sure about it). It was one of the most disturbing feelings I’ve ever experienced watching how quickly and abruptly she turned on me. I still feel uncomfortable even recalling those first few days.

Same here. The worst part was the psychologist told me flat out that it cannot be cured, therefore insurance won’t cover treatment. The only way is if they tack it on as a rider to something else (e.g. Diagnosis: Paranoid Schizophrenia with BPD).

BPD by itself is basically a clinical term for an incurable asshole who isn’t QUITE crazy enough to be considered a sociopath.

The trouble with "Facts" and "Opinions" is the average idiot thinks they're synonyms.

[LightsOnParticipant 22]

I’m sure I could write a book on crazy. I could at least write a few pages but I’m just gonna hit a couple of main points.

I spent a few years with crazy, way longer than I should have. I have a very strong, innate compulsion to figure things out, and she represented the ultimate puzzle. The prize was her undying love and devotion, which she showered me with for the first 6-9 months. I know most of you are familiar with the pattern: obsessive clinging and idolizing, “I’ve never felt this way about anyone,” slowly sucking up all your time and isolating you. Then one day it’s just gone. And you know you f~~~ed up somehow, you can see it in her eyes. But she won’t tell you how or why.

That’s the point where you should bail ASAP. That’s your last chance to get out without the s~~~ hitting the fan. But I was sure I could figure out what went wrong, and fix it. Over the next three years I experienced pure, unadulterated (pun f~~~ing intended) crazy on a level that made me question my OWN sanity. I always thought I wanted a chick with a sense of humor. Brothers, let me tell you in earnest, you do NOT want a chick with a sense of humor.

The point where I knew I had f~~~ed up was when I watched her cycle through several emotions one after another like a character switching weapons in a video game. Instantly, rapid-fire, she tried them one after another and took a beat to check my response before moving to the next. She was spitballing. Poking my various buttons to see which one was gonna work this time, but I was honestly too stunned to cooperate. So she ended up landing on frustration/contempt, and at that point, I was thinking “holy f~~~ing hell what have I done?”

I remember reading somewhere they call it “mask switching” and it is one of the most uncomfortable things I have ever seen. I had the strong feeling that what I was interacting with was not quite human.

[SkinnySweatyManInAGreenSuitParticipant 94]

-and I thought I was special.
DF,
It’s like you altered the details to protect my identity in your story.
They really do rope you in and abuse you, lavishing affection strategically to make you vulnerable, then attacking when they see you deviate from their control game dialogue. -and of course it’s cyclic and escalatory.
Oh and let me add, everything crazy does that’s negative is directly your fault. All her friends and family agree with her for various reasons.

Beer & BBQ

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Jesus, it sounds like my first wife. She drilled holes in the bathroom door to see if I was masturbating in the tub. She went to jail every other week due to not being able to handle her booze. When a former boyfriend dumped her, she poured gasoline under his door and set it on fire. She smashed my car window and I had to get an order of protection against her. She f~~~ed out on me 9 times, once on our living room floor. When my mom died, she slapped her in the coffin and called her a bitch. I did nothing until she kept calling my dead mother a bitch in the car. I lost it and beat the crap out of her till she begged for mercy! That is when I said to hell with being a “Gentleman”!

[GetaPoasParticipant 73]

Not gonna lie this sounds like me too.

I just roll my eyes when women say they’re crazy as usually it just means they’re a c~~~ or a whore but proud of it. Instead of ashamed of it like a good tradcon but keeps doing it anyway…

Whatever. I am legitimately a little unstable so it doesn’t bother me either which way. It’s probably why women like me so much so I have solid pua cred despite how I don’t consider myself a pua.

For example one of the radfems I was with left me because she didn’t think I was handicapped enough. She wanted someone “more like her.” I loved her and would’ve done anything for her. I literally got a full time job when I never worked hard for anything in my life just to take care of her. If this is some retard autism c~~~ there truly is no nawalt.

Anyway…one of my more scheming and stupid friends who I think legitimately might be a sociopath said date a trans. Her being a terf would be devastated I got with a trans and the tranny would bully her. Ultimately they’d end up fighting for my validation.

I was like “yeeeaaa that’s a great idea!”

It wasn’t
It was a terrible idea…

I mean they did fight. But it was over the stupidest s~~~. And in all this mess I was neither happy nor getting laid. At some point I got so aggravated I threatened the tranny in a room together and told her whether she liked it or not the courts see her as a man so noones gonna give a f~~~ if I slit her throat.

So needless to say it was a big waste of my time.

TL;DR the line between RooshV, Hannibal Lector, and Robby Rotten is pretty blurry.

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

Walk away and do it fast. Make sure you are not seen when your doing it or give any hints that you are walking away because boy oh boy some of them get really f~~~ing offended and thats just it your screwed. Don’t let them know where you live don’t let them know that you have money and definitely don’t let them near the people you care about. They will use every opportunity to f~~~ you up. Seen it happen to a lot of people and heard numerous horror stories they are just vile sometimes. RUNAWAY !!! FAR FAR AWAY.

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[MasterAnglerParticipant 42]

Wow I can’t agree more!!! My exwife was diagnose bipolar then borderline personality. Next three gfs were all bipolar as well and the last one had no diagnosis but her mother and father met in a psych ward.

She was by far the most insane.(hit someone with a car intentionally) I am like a magnet for crazy women.

My new questions if I meet a new woman are what medications are you on? And,how many times have u called 911 on a guy? The love bombing is great but the trade off is for sure not worth it.

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