I just need to sound off

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Hello Gentlemen;

I just needed to sound off a little about a current situation.

My turn recently ended with a FWB turned LTR that I’ve been having with a girl that started about 2 years ago; she is 15 years younger than me and we met while vacationing. Don’t worry: she never cohabited and we live in different states about 4hrs drive away. We saw each other about 1 to 2 times per month but had a blast together. I’m never going back to the plantation. But the sex was fantastic and it gave me a huge ego boost since my divorce and red pill rage about 5 years back. I treated her well, but spent next to no resources. Calculating out the cost; $18/f~~~ is essentially what I spent over the course of the relationship. Lol

While I knew that the relationship would end eventually and had no intentions of becoming attached, I guess feelings developed that I never intended. The relationship had over the top expressions of admiration and love on her part for the first 1.5 years- then hot/cold passive aggressive actions, and finally her ending it in quite an abrupt and hurtful manner. The circumstances almost identical to my marriage.

She ended the relationship with a monkey branch; which I totally expected. She attempted to gaslight me and indirectly blame me and her lack of communication skills. Of course she claimed the relationship was broken beyond repair despite me asking if anything was wrong months before.

She denied anyone else was involved, but low and behold her FaceBook status changes to “in a relationship” less than one week after giving me the boot – with some dude that’s an absolute scuz with 4 younger kids separated less than a year. I know women have no loyalty but I figured she’d treat me better because I was emotionally there for her after the death of her parent. This is when the relationship developed into an LTR from the FWB and I loss some of my resolve and developed feelings – my dad having passed away a few months before (token support from her btw)

Obviously this side dude had been going on for the hot/cold period in the background. Talk about a monkey branch downward. Lol

I’m a traditional guy (hunting, fishing, climbing, hiking and muscular) and this dude looks like an looser – min wage warehouse job versus me as a MD, skinny and all the tell-tale signs of a chronic pot smoking moron.

Part of me is enraged, part of me feels bad for the horrible path her life is shaping up to be, part of me wants to sit back, pop some popcorn and watch the whole situation go down in flames.

This happened over a month ago, and I’m surprised it still bothers me quite a lot.

I knew this was to be expected; I know women. I guess that small part of me that’s blue pill is a little disappointed.

Thanks for the vent gents.

EWO

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5115]

“FWB turned LTR”

Well that’s the problem right there.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Anonymous 3]

Summing the situation: you are human, she is… a woman.

Take solace in the notion that it could have ended a lot worst.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

My turn recently ended with a FWB turned LTR that I’ve been having with a girl that started about 2 years ago;

Two years?

Give them three months, max.

The relationship had over the top expressions of admiration and love on her part for the first 1.5 years-

They always do.

then hot/cold passive aggressive actions,

That always happens.

It’s your cue to bail out and leave her. Make sure she knows it’s her fault due to her attitude.

and finally her ending it in quite an abrupt and hurtful manner.

Because you stayed in too long. You should have nexted her at one year at the outside. Definitely the moment her tone changed at 18 months. If you put up with their sh​it, they’ll only sh​it on you more.

I know women have no loyalty

So why show loyalty to them?

but I figured she’d treat me better because I was emotionally there for her after the death of her parent.

LOLno. Women only value what they want from a man, They don’t give any fu​cks about anything they’ve already gotten from a man.

Obviously this side dude had been going on for the hot/cold period in the background. Talk about a monkey branch downward. Lol

Eventually that little monkey is going to run out of branches.

That is not your problem. But it will be funny as hell.

Part of me is enraged, part of me feels bad for the horrible path her life is shaping up to be, part of me wants to sit back, pop some popcorn and watch the whole situation go down in flames.

I recommend real butter and powdered sea salt on that popcorn, not that microwave bag stuff. You want the moment when she realizes she fu​cked up to be perfect.

[Professor ChaosParticipant 489]

Hoes be trippin

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22545]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Hello Gentlemen;
I just needed to sound off a little about a current situation.
My turn recently ended with a FWB turned LTR that I’ve been having with a girl that started about 2 years ago; she is 15 years younger than me and we met while vacationing. Don’t worry: she never cohabited and we live in different states about 4hrs drive away. We saw each other about 1 to 2 times per month but had a blast together. I’m never going back to the plantation. But the sex was fantastic and it gave me a huge ego boost since my divorce and red pill rage about 5 years back. I treated her well, but spent next to no resources. Calculating out the cost; $18/f~~~ is essentially what I spent over the course of the relationship. Lol
While I knew that the relationship would end eventually and had no intentions of becoming attached, I guess feelings developed that I never intended. The relationship had over the top expressions of admiration and love on her part for the first 1.5 years- then hot/cold passive aggressive actions, and finally her ending it in quite an abrupt and hurtful manner. The circumstances almost identical to my marriage.
She ended the relationship with a monkey branch; which I totally expected. She attempted to gaslight me and indirectly blame me and her lack of communication skills. Of course she claimed the relationship was broken beyond repair despite me asking if anything was wrong months before.
She denied anyone else was involved, but low and behold her FaceBook status changes to “in a relationship” less than one week after giving me the boot – with some dude that’s an absolute scuz with 4 younger kids separated less than a year. I know women have no loyalty but I figured she’d treat me better because I was emotionally there for her after the death of her parent. This is when the relationship developed into an LTR from the FWB and I loss some of my resolve and developed feelings – my dad having passed away a few months before (token support from her btw)
Obviously this side dude had been going on for the hot/cold period in the background. Talk about a monkey branch downward. Lol
I’m a traditional guy (hunting, fishing, climbing, hiking and muscular) and this dude looks like an looser – min wage warehouse job versus me as a MD, skinny and all the tell-tale signs of a chronic pot smoking moron.
Part of me is enraged, part of me feels bad for the horrible path her life is shaping up to be, part of me wants to sit back, pop some popcorn and watch the whole situation go down in flames.
This happened over a month ago, and I’m surprised it still bothers me quite a lot.
I knew this was to be expected; I know women. I guess that small part of me that’s blue pill is a little disappointed.
Thanks for the vent gents.
EWO

Seriously, save yourself the bulls~~~ and get a sex doll. Get multiple heads amd wigs for variety. No i dont sell them.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Thanks sidecar.

I know all what you say is 100% correct. I guess I needed a reminder.
The sex was easy, good and cheap. She was an easy (7/10) on the eyes and pleasant. You always want to hang in there for one more time before you cut your loses. I hung on too long.

I also know that I am way too nice; when I treated her like a play thing at the beginning of the FWB/hookup stage all was well. I downright ignored her flattery and she was as wet as a mermaid.
Second my caring/compassionate side (makes me a good MD) was engaged she slowly lost interest.

This is why I could never marry again with these crazy shrews – I just cannot be that cruel and mean long term to keep them interested.

Application of the theory I knew learned by this experience.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

Ice berg Slim who ice cube took his name FROM It is all cop and blow

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

you know the deal. You expected different. Goal not met

[Branched offParticipant 10969]

Its perfectly normal to sound off about something like that. Female company, love and sex make us feel good inside. They are the only reasons why we let women hurt us. Its just a s~~~ty deal men get these days.

Women have a default setting of “unfulfilled and wanting more form life” that can be temporarily overridden by their falling in love. Nature intends them to use these drives to find mates and raise families, eventually ending up fulfilled by having many children and grandchildren. However modern life and modern female entitlement usually means that their inner drive these days just leads them to have a series of relationships that start out as “perfect” and end up classed as “bringing them down” to “abusive” depending on their feelings and their audience’s reaction.

We should avoid them if we can and when we cannot, then we will probably be in for a fall some time. If its any consolation, I think that it gets better sooner than it used to once one has been divorced raped. Its like an inoculation. The sickness will probably never be as bad again.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[SandalsParticipant 4254]

What Sidecar said

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

A good warning for us all. The blue pill can run deeper than even many hard-core red-pillers realise.

You are human bro. I can relate to not being able to pretend to be an arsehole to keep women interested. I am generally a nice bloke – one who has not had a relationship since 1999.

Being nice does not mean we are weak… if we are wise. Wisdom is a rare and extraordinary strength.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

The sex was easy, good and cheap.

It always is, at first. They can’t run a bait-and-switch scam with bad bait.

You always want to hang in there for one more time before you cut your loses.

Naw. Not if you’ve already nexted her. Say you trade up from some busted down hoopty ford escort for a brand new merc SL. Would you really want to hang in there and keep paying for maintenance on the escort? Or would to dump that bitch at goodwill for the $500 tax write off?

If you cut and run in time, you never have any losses.

This is why I could never marry again with these crazy shrews

The craptastic laws are why you should never marry. The women are irrelevant. She could be a bona fide beautiful NAWALT unicorn, and you’d still be an idiot to marry her in this legal environment.

I just cannot be that cruel and mean long term to keep them interested.

Naw. Don’t engage in cruelty or meanness. That’s still a form of the attention she wants and eventually gets the same results..

Be indifferent.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Well, you are competing with FaCeB~~~~. None of this is going to make you feel better overall. But this is something I found out the hard way. Women always have 2 -3 dicks on the side. There is no such thing that you were the only one bro. Just the one that was around at the time.

After looking at some of the data that I have been able to collect? ALL WOMEN BRO. ALL! That Very Insignificant 1%, is just that. And sooner or later they turn out to be a statistic. Why? Well…

It’s actually built into the advertising algorithm. Just as they try to sell you something that you “Might be missing out on”, they do the same thing with women and relationships and men as well. You just don’t see it. It’s pretty benign for most.

I use to think the same thing. She was waiting for me. I was coming in and swooping up a woman that I always wanted. What I did not know? That f~~~ed me. But to me? I thought WHOA! She’s on the market. I’m GOING IN!. Well, what I did not know was just for her past? She was damaged goods already. There was no wonderful musician that was a the pride and joy of her church. Nope. My mind was all Programed and ready to be destroyed.

And the thing is I saw SIGNS left and right and just ignored them. You get attached. You should cut your losses and run. I know if feels wrong to you as a man, but that is what they WANT you to do. It feels best for them to be used and thrown around. Now Imagine if I met her today. When I am 40. Her kids are grown and moved out of the “apartment” etc. Thing is, she would have been so much better off IF I had NEVER bothered with her on any Serious level.

Just enjoyed her for what she was. Never told her of my feelings and used her like a toy. Everything would have been just fine. A great weekend f~~~ and fling. If I had kept that up, I would have been 10 times better off. As many men are today. But that’s the catch.

This society that we live in today PROMOTES women to shop around. Be Unhappy with what they got. And then if they have Daughters etc, they want to party along with them. Not be Mom’s. Motherhood is not a institution anymore. It’s not respected. Even the Magazines try hard selling the image of what a good mother is supposed to be. But do everything they can to ruin it after all the advertising dollars dry up. The “Soccer Mom Image” has little benefit of the allure of the single woman lifestyle to women.

Bro, that guy has been around for a LONG time. They have been talking and you were the “Image” of what she wanted to portray while her friends were busy trying to bring her down to whatever level they are on. You don’t see this. But they do this all the time. It’s the nature of how they behave.

You can call it what you want, but its not going to change for a LONG time. Women are just too easy to manipulate. And as you know , they won’t get any flack from anyone. So it will just keep on going.

I was there to bro. THinking how this Fat F~~~ Drug dealing loser was my “replacement”. Now, I have to admit, I would not have minded so much if it was not for the fact I had child with her. Or did everything I could to raise her other 2 daughters as my own. But what killed me is that THIS S~~~ has been going on for a HELL of a long time. I mean for f~~~ing YEARS under my nose.

Dude, even when I saw something, I sort of blocked it out. No s~~~ bro. That’s how f~~~ed up it all was.

And you can’t even begin to think for a second that she was even REMOTELY all yours ever.

That’s the thing man. That is the BIGGEST mistake dudes make. When you start a relationship with a woman, she IS with someone else. SHE IS f~~~ing someone else on the side bro. ALWAYS. The STD epidemic is not there for no reason.

When men say its Your turn, that means ONLY during the time you are in her Geographic location. And I mean like visible. And that only holds true IF her phone is off LOL!

So all of you thinking that there is a woman out there that does not have some kind of DICK attached to it? Bro. I got BAD news for you.

Look man, MY ex, when I met her was sharing her Images on AOL back in the day. She was even on most of the sites sharing her t~~~ to the world. Now think about that. THAT is when I met her.

You want to know why WOMEN complain about MEN always Sending Dick Pics to them? WELL how come no one ever asks HOW they got them? The photos they post are not there for Kicks man. FacebooK and ALL social media before that was to do just that. EPIC MEAT MARKET 2.0.

Why do you think WOMEN are so Secretive about their lives and phones etc. Why do you think SnapChat was Invented? FOR MEN? Come on. The INTERNET was created for PORN bro. And that PORN comes from Someplace. Most of the Pictures on Rate My Boobs.com or rate my dick.com are O.C. Many of the photo’s that were submitted were from PEOPLE in RELATIONSHIPS BRO!

Believe me on this. Many low tier married men and MANY WOMEN are all f~~~ing around on Each other. Weather its some Online ROle Playing Bulls~~~ etc. It’s all just an Excuse to do so.

Women get mad at men for PORN cuz THEY KNOW they are doing the same. And they don’t want you to have anything that THEY HAVE. And furthermore? Don’t ever think that she is NOT trying to just see if she can score. Women like to do that kind of s~~~. That’s what they do. Going out with the Girls? LOL. Whatever. Ask ANY bartender about this they will tell you. Any MAN that worked at ANY late night Bar. That is what they go there for bro.

That is why WOMEN were the ones so f~~~ing Hard assed about controlling other women. But that’s just about all gone away. That is why we are in the s~~~ we are in now. MEN never really had a control over women. But women were clear on the fact that the DEAL they got is a SWEET ONE. Don’t f~~~ up the contract. Or they will all suffer. There was no Daddy GOvernment to help out. You f~~~ed up, you were left to the Party till you die life. And that never ends very well in the end. Youth fades away and your health does as well. In the past this was WAY faster then it is today.

So for ANY guy out there thinking she was just “Waiting”. LOL. Come over here man. I got some land to sell you on Mars.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[TicParticipant 4329]

4 hr drive. She probably monkey branched just to save gas.

on a more serious note, I think maybe you weren’t red pilled enough. You were fresh off a divorce and needed physical and emotional support, so she took advantage of it, and perhaps you as well.

One thing I have accepted is this: even if god himself send a pious, loyal woman to me today and says, “tic,I declare both of you a partner who will stay faithful”, I would respectfully tell him to take a hike and don’ waste my time with this s~~~. Those days are gone. In today’s society, women CANNOT be trusted. They have cell phones, they have ipdas, they got a car, and they got money. Which means they had a long list of c~~~ at their disposal. So, even to the woman that I date now, I have said all this and it was a take it or leave it situation. If she leaves today, I would be somewhat hurt, but not emotionally scarred, because I expect it to happen any day now. At least, I’m free. It doesn’t sound like you’ll be scarred to much, I think it was a good learning experience that solidifies your mgtow lifestyle.

by the way, I think it’s great that you share this. We all need refresher course, reminder of the reality of today’s women.

God bless peace and freedom.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Women are as loyal as their options, and sometimes their options involve slumming it.

The female sexual instinct is a result of evolution; genetic diversity is a thing. If a woman in a medieval village had all her children with one husband, and that husband was genetically not immune to Bubonic plague, and the plague comes through the village… her children will go bye-bye.

But if she had a dude on the side and he turned out to be immune, she might have a kid that survives, AND a side-dude that doesn’t die from the plague either.

Women find it a lot harder to overcome their animal instincts than men, although a large portion of men also fair to overcome their instincts.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Like I have said MANY TIMES, “Never Underestimate the Insidious Power of the Blue Pill !!”

It ALL STARTS with the 1st “date”…….

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[HermitParticipant]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

I guess feelings developed that I never intended……… but I figured she’d treat me better because I was emotionally there for her……… and I loss some of my resolve and developed feelings………… and I’m surprised it still bothers me quite a lot.
I knew this was to be expected

Feelings and emotions, as I’ve always said, are always the downfall of men. Like you said, in the beginning, you treated her as though you could take her or leave her, basically treating her like s~~~ and she loved it. Then you lost control of your emotions and felt something for her and she hated you for it. You know how women are. You knew what to expect and you developed feelings for her anyway.

I’m not knocking you for the mistake as I almost did the same damn thing a couple years ago. She was the hottest gal I ever spent any time with. Just about the most perfect body I’ve ever touched. I told myself over and over in the beginning…..”just use her……don’t lose control of your emotions….”….and I stumbled a little, but it was just enough to slap me in the face and wake me up. I regained control and was able to finish the relationship with no emotional ties. I used her as much as she used me and when it was over, bye bye bitch. No problem.

Never develop emotions for a female. You’ll fuc k yourself over every damn time. I like to have fun with them and sometimes even hang around with them a little, but they don’t care about me, so I don’t care about them. It’s just a little fun and then we go on with our lives.

Fuc k ’em and forget ’em. Use ’em and lose ’em.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I don’t have emotions anymore, and I don’t love my girlfriend. Emotions are just a tool used by other people to manipulate you. Doesn’t matter whether it is a female, a politician or the media… they all use emotional manipulation.

I ask myself, “What is in it for me?”. When I see a video or read an article or look at the pictures, I ask myself how is this attempting to emotionally manipulate me? (example, pictures of refugees from Syria will usually feature a much higher percentage of western-looking children and women, very few Middle Eastern looking men — a choice geared towards emotional manipulation) Since I am both aware AND don’t give a f~~~, it doesn’t affect me.

Had I know these fundamental truths when I was 18, it would have saved me a lot of trouble.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Daryll55Participant 2956]

Sandals wrote:

What Sidecar said

Ditto…..
To be honest: YOU are much more BLUE PILL than you think. I’m NOT judging you; i am just reading into what you had written.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

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