I have committed serious MGTOW crimes!

[cuntychopsParticipant 3]

This is a pretty good example of how we get caught out even when we run about thinking we are immune.

Ok so this episode started back in 2007, i was really down on my luck, very little money and 3 months behind on my mortgage. I was depressed as hell if im honest.  I wasn’t in the best of shape either but I got asked to do a modeling thing for a friend of a friend. I reluctantly agreed and turned up at the place only to find out that it was “body painting”. The icing on this ridiculous cake was that I was to be doing it with someone and that someone was a half naked 19 year old caramel delight. This instantly turned into a pretty interesting day and the chemistry between the 2 of us was hard to ignore.

Anyway, with that over with she asked for my number a week later and we kept in touch in the form of talking on the phone for hours. I was on my ass and my apartment was in a sorry state and i was embarrassed to get her to come over.  We met up a few times and had sex but nothing permanent ever kicked in, we spent more time talking on the phone. Looking back now i don’t really know why we didn’t meet up more, my mental state must have played a major part in that.

She disappeared to the states to see her dad (her dad is black, mum is white) and we lost touch.

In the following years i got myself back on my feet, moved from where i was staying, started a business and got back to where i wanted to be.  Dated many scary females, some very very attractive and with that came my realization that they are all completely nuts, some more than others but in general they all display delusional tenancies and psychotic, irrational behavior.

I moved one of them into my apartment that I had (nicest place i have ever stayed) this crackpot was polish and while she was gorgeous to look at she made my life hell and when it all broke down she refused to move out and it all got pretty physical.

After the last long(ish) relationship I had a break for a while, got too involved in my work and lost interest in having another relationship as the last 2 were fairly toxic. I was getting bored

I spent time on this forum and generally advising fellow brothers and the uneducated of the warning signs and the dangers of being in nasty unhealthy relationships. I have helped some mates with a good few split ups and was doing some real good women hating from time to time.

Zoom forward to october 2014, Im in my place with my hands down my pants as you do when I get a friends request from the model chick from years ago, asking if I “remembered her”. Through all the idiots I had dealt with my fondest memories mentally and physically were always with her, I thought about her often over the years as she was so unbelievably hot and we seemed to have this pretty unique connection. she is 24 I am 35 now

She was going to be in town that Saturday at a friends birthday and asked if she could stay at mine, to say that I was excited was an understatement. I spent a week cleaning my place up and down, went out and got new sheets. The f~~~ing works..

Saturday comes and I get a call that she didn’t want to stay at mine Saturday after all but would come see me on Sunday. Thinking that sunday would never happen I got slightly p~~~ed and made a bigger deal than I should. ( i was just excited)

Sat came and went and then I got a call Sunday morning to ask if I would go get her from her friends place, she came back to mine and we had mad sex. It was fairly epic

We started things up again, she was at mine constant, sex was amazing, everything was amazing. She had to get a boat and then drive to mine, was costing a lot of money and I knew she didn’t have much. Because of this I convinced myself that this was the real thing!

this is pretty much where the fairy tale goes down hill….

Having been in the states she advised me that she makes yearly trips and that she has a “Friend” over there, on asking what the deal with that is she replied that they are “flirty but nothing has ever happened”. Oh goodie I thought

This guys name started to come up a few times and it started to p~~~ me off, but never having been the crazy jealous type (without good cause) I left it alone.

I had planned a trip to south america prior to meeting up with her again and was coming back via new York at new year. We were getting on so well and I was honestly over the f~~~ing moon with my life that I asked her to meet me in new york for new years and bought and paid for her ticket. The plan was that we would both fly into new York from different parts of the world. Spend a week there and fly back together. It was all sounding pretty nice.

This guys name came up again, feeling kinda edgy about it I asked if she had told him about me.. her reply was “no and im not going to, its none of his business”. Understanding the way the world works and how guys behave I asked that she do this or he is just going to keep at it. (this guy stays next door to her dads in the states that she goes to every year, meeting him is inevitable)

What came next was our first big fight, I was getting accused of being insecure and jealous. I did check myself a few times but came to the conclusion that what i was asking was not unreasonable and the fact she was unwilling to tell him raised questions about everything. At this point new york was on and off every day. Mostly by her threatening not to come if I didn’t “dial down the jealousy”

Im just getting started by the way,…… hope your not bored yet

On the run up to my Christmas / new year trip we were more good than bad, sex was still amazing. I was taking days off from work to be with her and everything was pretty sweet. I still had reservations about her “friend” and her attitude towards it but I promised myself to get the trip out the way before approaching the subject again. On a side note, zero mention of me on facebook or insta but plenty of back and forward likes with her “friend”.  I know that this s~~~ shouldn’t matter but I think its important to gauge their behavior / intentions.

Lost of intense sex, eating out (all paid for by me) and “i love you’s” on the run up to me leaving. Where i was in south america I was isolated and had no mobile coverage. I caved one day and had to make contact, the s~~~ she was saying was all very nice and comforting. “I always loved you the years we were apart”, “never letting you out of my sight again” etc etc, you get the idea/

She doesnt fly well and the last message I get before meeting her in new york was that “she cant come because she hates flying” , that really p~~~ed me off but I flew into new York and she was waiting for me at the hotel.

New york was good , not great. She was fairly moody alot of the time but I was just glad to be there with her and my little plan had come together nicely so I was happy.  She asked me not to put any pictures on facebook because “her family in the states doesn’t know im here and i cant be bothered going to visit” (Atlanta) – not exactly close

Since we got back its been non stop arguing, with periods of calm. She stopped being nice and her attitude totally changed, she is snappy and nasty at pretty much everything I do or say. She can make an argument out of absolutely nothing.

here’s an example…She is paranoid about her nose and every time I look at her for more than 5 seconds she barks at me that “im staring” at her, this it itself has caused arguments as ridiculous as that sounds.

I was at hers last thursday for dinner with her mum, she was snapping and grunting at everything i did. (I felt like the estranged husband coming round to pick up the kids) even her mum commented on how horrible she was being.

I got up and got the boat back to mine the next morning, didn’t speak to her all Friday as I was angry at the way she had been acting the night before.

I hit the gym on saturday and in a moment of weakness and while trying to analyse her behavior I came to the conclusion in my head that she had cronic PMS, and that this somehow explained her behavior. I sent her a really nice message asking how she was feeling and that I would call her later.

“im fine, talk later” was the reply.

again against all better judgement I was expecting to see her sat night. I get a call about 8 asking if her boots were in my car because she is going out with her friend. After asking why she was not coming to mine she replied that i had “ignored her all Friday and she is not physic”. Anyway after the phone went down and she tried to call me 9 times i replied “f~~~ you”

She said that was it over bla bla bla.

Having written all that down I am coming to terms with what i did wrong and the mistakes that I made. Im still pretty cut up about it as even tho it had been going toxic for a while we had amazing sex and I honestly thought at times I had won the GF lottery.

In reality I had just been dealing with her representative until the real monster showed its head

I have been totally taken in by this one, and because of all the history we had I let her away with absolute murder. If I had met this one fresh today I would not have put up with any of it. Its clear that she does not want it anymore but to make herself feel better she pokes me with a stick and when i react.. she hangs the argument on my reaction.

every one of my friends thinks that I should have shut the whole thing down way before Christmas but I had this romantic vision of the whole thing working out. Hurts now when i think that I was just being used and the money and time and energy I had spent on her.

thanks if you took the time to read that rant, I guess i just knuckle up, stop sulking and take it as a lesson not to let a 24 year old run rings round me and make me look stupid, regardless of how good they look coming out of the shower.

andy

 

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Not the most painful lesson, you really only took damage to the ego…..

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome to the club, and enormously large club it is.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Andy,
sorry to read this happening to you. As I read it, something occurs to me that I’ll pass on now because I think that if you focus on this, it may help. While reading your post, it seems to me that your description of this girl indicates that you think she is unique. But realistically, she is not. Your experience with her may have been unique among other women you’ve had experiences with. But I promise that almost any 24 year woman could give you the exact same experience (at 24, almost all of them look good coming out of the shower). I’m not certain the demographics where you live, but I’ll estimate that there are millions of 24 year old women on the planet. So, you have a LOT of opportunities for replacing her, and I believe that about 30 seconds after you finish banging one of those other options, the disappointment (of this girl not being the person you hoped she would be) is going to fade…

Your homework assignment is to go and hit on about 25 of them during the next week. That seems like a lot, but you only have to get one to bang you. You have one dick. You only need one (other) girl to solve this problem.

It’s not my original line so I can’t take credit for it, but “The best solution for the problem of a beautiful woman behaving badly… is the next beautiful woman…”

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[cuntychopsParticipant 3]

BrainPilot wrote:

it seems to me that your description of this girl indicates that you think she is unique. ”

Bingo dude, I did think this. Without getting overly sensitive about it we did have the history and although short lived the connection was more intense than I have ever had in the past. She was also half Cherokee Indian, so she looked outstanding from every angle. I like unique, its my thing!

BrainPilot wrote:

Your homework assignment is to go and hit on about 25 of them during the next week. That seems like a lot, but you only have to get one to bang you. You have one dick. You only need one (other) girl to solve this problem. It’s not my original line so I can’t take credit for it, but “The best solution for the problem of a beautiful woman behaving badly… is the next beautiful woman…”

My mate is up from london this weekend, he wont entertain my sob story so challenge accepted 🙂

thanks for that guys, made me feel much better.

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

What the hell do you want from a woman, really? Because whatever it is, I don’t see how it can honestly get much better than what you’ve already gotten — good sex and no commitment.   Except in your fantasies — I’m sure those are great.  But in real life, this is as good as it gets, man.   You had it, it’s over, now go look for it again.  And stop jerking off to fantasies of being a lifetime slave to one woman. Please.  You’re embarrassing yourself.

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