I have a theory

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

I think that a big reason why a lot of males go in construction jobs and endure the dangers of the workplace is because they wish to make as much money as they can as soon as possible so that they can one day do a great job to provide for their family that they so desperately wish to have. Like if the guy did not wish to have a family, why would he take jobs that are so dangerous and physically enduring? My point is, I bet that a huge percentage of guys in construction field are family people just because of the fact that they are willing to do it for their families alone, which is admirable if you ask me! The ones that do not do it for their families from what I seen in the past usually have the attitude that they wish to work hard to play hard, because that is how they cope with life in general with such back breaking work. So what do you guys think?

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

I respect construction workers they have a hard life but at the same time they choose to do it because they have no other options. They tend to be the Chads of the world who coasted in high school and graduated with low grades or never finished their education. I am talking about general construction laborers not trades people those guys are really smart and know a lot more then people give them credit.

But with that said some guys love the outdoors and would rather be working at construction than sitting at a cubical and family has always played a role no matter what profession you are in. Boys at a young age have always been taught to raise a family of their own when they grow up and they work for one of those reasons but that is not the main reason. There are other factors that contribute to the overall reason for what people choose to do and it all depends on the lifestyle they want to live.

[Anonymous 0]

I used to work construction because I found it easy, fun, rewarding, good pay, outdoors, no women, not much bs. I left it for better pay in my current career. I like having the practical skills from the job. I can build a 1000 dollar pond easy. Good side gig should I need to do it.

I did it also because it was a good start in life that earned me enough money for my own education. The hard work allowed me to live in reality and always better myself.

[HitmanParticipant]

i never did construction.
but i think your theory is pretty good.
men take tough jobs to make money.
family’s require that money.
.
not every guy is an intellectual..
some of us just have to work.
you take what you can get to pay the bills.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

My brother would be happier if he never married and just went and raced his RC cars he liked. But he is blue collar and wanted to do the whole family thing, so he goes off and does physical labor things. His wife is horrible. I was going to say I would never invite her to my wedding, if I ever had it. But, as of now (you get in trouble if you say never), I am not going to marry, so she won’t be invited because there won’t be one.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Catch And ReleaseParticipant 133]

It might be the allure to some, but I’m not sure it would be an underlying trend.

Haven’t done construction specifically, but I did spend 5 years working in the Canadian oilfield. Long hours, brutal winter weather, working with explosives. Worked with all types of people, but mostly single people. It was good money, probably better than construction on average but with a poor work/life balance.

Moved into a different line of work 5 years ago, still natural resource related. Not quite as dangerous, better schedule and even better pay. A lot more married guys there, but again it is a desirable job that pays well and there is a lot of competition to get the job. Money drives people, regardless of whether they go home to an empty house or a family.

What drives me is the opportunity to live debt free, the freedom to do what I want, buy what I want, go where I want on my time off. And more than anything I don’t want to be working too long after 50.

[bladeParticipant]

Worked in construction most of my life.be f~~~ed if i would ever return to my trade.Hard work i use to enjoy but the money isn’t in it anymore.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

I think that a big reason why a lot of males go in construction jobs and endure the dangers of the workplace is because they wish to make as much money as they can as soon as possible so that they can one day do a great job to provide for their family that they so desperately wish to have.

You may be correct. I think it runs MUCH deeper than that, however. Men have an irresistible drive to build/create/design/engineer/repair/etc that makes them gravitate to the construction trade, as well as the STEM careers.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[joetechParticipant]

I fell into the scale business over 35 years ago. It’s an interesting field that put me into a lot of construction areas. I didn’t exactly pick it as a career…it just kinda happened. I think guys that work construction just like building stuff and putting things together. Find something you love and you’ll excel at it.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[AttonParticipant]

It’s good simple work from what I understand.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[joetechParticipant]

I wouldn’t exactly call it simple…unless you call Newton’s second law F=MA simple. Lots of physics involved in the old lever systems. Load cells?…wheatstone bridge voltage divider. 6 years of Navy electronics and controls and indicating gave me those skills. The 5olb test weight workouts were an added bonus. I quit needing the gym when I got into weight lifting(test weights, that is)

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

The thing with this though is that with my theory itself, if we live in a world where men do not wish to marry anymore, would there be as many men in construction? Think about that for a moment. Remember, my theory that I pointed out before was that men go to construction as a means to make as much money as possible, as soon as possible so that they can one day do a great job to provide for their future family. But if the reason to even have a family is gone, will many of those same men still go into construction still? Like what would stop them from just working as a stock clerk at some retail store and just have a life where they do not have to work as hard because the only people they have to work for is himself?

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

I did it also because it was a good start in life that earned me enough money for my own education. The hard work allowed me to live in reality and always better myself.

I haven’t worked in a construction job but I’ve worked other s~~~ty labor jobs when I was younger. This was my reason too. Right out of high school I got a loading job that consisted of non-stop package handling of everything from envelopes to 100lb+ packages that was just nonstop movement for 4+ hours a morning. It paid me 11 bucks an hour where as my retail job was paying me 7.50. A few years later I got into a better warehouse type job making 16 an hour, where as if I had stayed at that retail gig I’d probably have gotten a .25 a year raise and have been making 8 or 8.25. Coworkers I had worked with stayed at the time stayed there, and couldn’t believe I’d go bust my ass at those other jobs rather than just skate through my college years at a joke job. In the end I paid my way through debt free and they all ended up with loans, plus when I graduated I had the added benefit of having worked my way into a job where I was earning 18 an hour while I looked for something better while they were all stuck in minimum wage jobs having to pay on student loans while they were looking for something better. It made for some s~~~ty years for quite a few of them. Plus I also have the benefit of now that I have a better job where I’m making even more money and not beating up on my body nearly as much, I completely appreciate having such a good job and its incredibly easy to get through a work week having come from much worse jobs.

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

The thing with this though is that with my theory itself, if we live in a world where men do not wish to marry anymore, would there be as many men in construction? Think about that for a moment. Remember, my theory that I pointed out before was that men go to construction as a means to make as much money as possible, as soon as possible so that they can one day do a great job to provide for their future family. But if the reason to even have a family is gone, will many of those same men still go into construction still? Like what would stop them from just working as a stock clerk at some retail store and just have a life where they do not have to work as hard because the only people they have to work for is himself?

I don’t think men would stop chasing the most money they can make with their education/skill set regardless of if they marry or not. We’d still have guys getting f~~~ed over by child support same as we do now. We’d still have guys that just want to be single and spend all their money on toys and fun just like we do now. We’d still have guys that just want to be frugal and retire early same as we do now. As the pool of guys getting married doing the traditional family thing shrinks I think those other three groups will just grow.

The way I’ve always looked at work is I’m selling my time for money, I want to get the most for it. I’d rather have a 20 dollar an hour job I could tolerate than a 10 dollar an hour job I actually enjoyed. I’m sure there would be a balance point somewhere…like a 60 dollar an hour job I could tolerate probably wouldn’t be preferable to a 50 dollar an hour job I loved as its a ridiculous amount of money either way, but I don’t think many people would want to go from a solid middle class income down to one step above poverty just because its a little easier. What good is it enjoying your work if you are broke and don’t really enjoy the rest of your life all that much?

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I have been an idiot and done mostly construction .

Screwed up opportunitys to learn a trade.

My fault.

Its true that a lot of the guys i work with are Chads.

Some real dummies.

I know a lot of guys who will never be able to have a drivers licence because they are so far behind in child support.

A lot of the guys i have met are really dumb.

They can frame or lay blocks but forget trying to have an intellegent conversation with them.

Below that are many who are so dumb that even being semi skilled like being a good carpenders helper or masons helper is beyond them.

Many i have met have spent years in prison.

It usto be that even the lowiest ditch digger made more to start than the guy flipping burgers at mcdonalds.

A lot of construction is God Damned dangerous.

I have met men with premanent injury and damage from things like hot tar and high voltage.

I had to get stitches a few times.

Was an electricans apprentice years ago and heard my forman scream while he being shocked.

I quit a few days later.

Dont get me wrong I have met and worked with guys who are just decent people.A lot.

There are some reguluar family guys who just want to work and take care of their family.

But i dont think they are the majority today.

Guys tried to talk me out of getting married.An old carpender in particular.

Wishd the hell id listened to him.

Construction is one of the first industrys to go s~~~sville in a recession.

Hurricane Andrew was a blessing.
Hurricane Ike was a bigger blessing.

They helped me get back on my feet again for a while.

There were recessions during the time of both George Bushes.

Made things a bit difficult.

And there are always f~~~ers like Trump who can squirrel out of paying you.

Happened to me a few times.

A lot if not most of the construction is being taken over by guys
from Mexico.

My best advice is if you want to go into the trades is Trade School.From When you are young.

Carpendenry.
Masonry.
Heavy equipment.
Electrical.
Plumbing.
Mchanics.
Roofing.
Welding.

There are many.Some good .Some not so good.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

Great posts! Beer, there might be people who would be envious of you for how good you have it, but I myself am actually happy for you, knowing that you put in the hard work to get to the point you are at. As for mgtowwave, good post too but I would be interested in going to school in welding, but then found out that there are not many welding jobs where I live since a bigger proportion of those jobs are actually out of the city. I guess that if I get into construction in general, I might have to relocate where the jobs are.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

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