I feel like s~~~

[AlGhulParticipant 9]

Dear friends, Ive been learning from this world of MGTOW like for 3 months and my perspective has change in some ways and confirmed other ones.

Since I joined here i decide to broke up with the girl ive been living with for 5 years (marriage without legal documents), But since shes a foreingnet ive let her stay in my place until she finds a new place. She tells me she wants to be with me and that she loves me.

I decided to end because I feel used and manipulated, and sometimes shes a heavy weight in my shoulders.

Things got terrible for me today bcause (thinking on giving her second chance) I asked lots of things and I let her think that I wasnt gonna get angry for the truth. Until she spoked, first she toldme a time we broke up ( in that time I wanted to get back with her but she didnt) she was hanging out with some dude, but I kept asking “did you liked him?” she answered “mmmm wel yes, new things are always good” but I wanted to know if they fuked because at that time she toldme she didnt had anything with anybody. And finally she confesed that she did, several times.

But thats not everything, since we broke up just like 2 months ago (and shes still living in my place) I wanted to know if some thing happened with someone in this period of time and the answer was affirmative, she even toldme she liked that a lot, that actually she loved sex with me more than with anybody else but with this last guy was realy good she even had 2 orgasms in a row, never happened with me.

Guys i feel used, terrible, i want to go crazy, I used to think she was really inocent, now I feel that someone (I think more tan 2 dudes) took a s~~~ in what I considered to be my holy temple (her body) she even toldme that she didnt waited too much for having sex with them, like 2 or 3 dates (opposite with me, I waited like a hole month to have sex with her). Bros I feel frustrated, ive been dizzy, feeling like dont want to do anything and the worst part is that now I want her again, this contradicts my reason. Feel frustrated bcause I think that they have the power, we are nothing but pieces, i feel terrible, and desperate. I would like to have that power that they have to, feelingless and mercyless use us and ther drop us and back whenever they want. I love women but I am frustrated because I dont have the skills to atract them, instantly f~~~ and then use for a while, its unfair because this bitch actually does. Sorry for the drama but never felt like this and for the language im from Mexico.

[RoyDalParticipant]

A lot of us on these forums have had similar things happen. It is just what women do — they swap around potential providers like monkeys swing from one branch to another. The monkey never lets go of its old branch until it has a firm grip on the new one.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[WolveParticipant 191]

AlGhul I have to say it sounds really difficult damned although I can’t speak from experience but know that even though it is difficult do not fall into the same trap twice if you go back to her and let yourself be manipulated again it will be even harder to leave the next time but this I can say from experience loving women is completely normal yet seeing them for what they are is painful because it completely contradicts everything you have felt before.
It is difficult to but not doing it means your basically picking up a hand grenade and saying “Hey if this one and every singe one after this doesn’t blow up in my face I’m going to have a great time” ok I’m being a bit cynical about it but you get it right? It is simply not worth it in the end so don’t give up.
Let your logic control your feelings, not the other way around.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The truth hurts, we all know, but this is how things go. A female will tell herself that it’s okay to have sex with other men for whatever reason she wants and then she will come back to your bed and say or do whatever it takes to stay in your home and enjoy the benefit of your love and care.

Never let a female convince you that she can not survive without you. She will say whatever it takes to make you feel guilty (I have no place to go, I will starve, I will die, I will kill myself) and then when she realizes you really are throwing her out, she will move in with the man she was having sex with behind your back. She already knows who he is and she’s already getting him ready to take over for you when the time comes.

The only reason she is staying with you at this point is that it’s easier to maintain control over you than it is to start over again with a new guy and establish control over him. It’s time for you to be free. Send this female packing and start seeing someone else… then keep her at arm’s distance and dump her as soon as the trouble starts.

This is the formula for staying happy as a man:

1) Control your own time, space and wealth
2) Engage with multiple females (if you so choose) and do not get too close to any of them
3) Get the most value you can out of a female as quickly as you can
4) Cut a female loose at the first sign of bulls~~~

If you happen to find a female who you believe to be truly so awesome that you simply can’t live without her and you’re ready to kick all the other females you’re also making it with to the curb. and give up control of your time, space and wealth to her, first get your head examined, then go to a support group for divorced men, then come back here and tell us how you found the mythical NAWALT and then marry her as soon as she signs a pre-nuptual agreement.

Congratulations, you now have no reason to ever take crap from a female again.

[AlGhulParticipant 9]

Thanks for your advices and your support i really need it, Its hard to let go, its hard to change your mind about something you tought it was, beautifull, sacred and good for you. With all the pain of my heart i will make this women leaves my place and my life forever. It hurts so mutch.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

She is causing your pain. Get rid of her.

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Walk away. Just walk away. Also, get her out of the apartment. Her well being is not your responsibility. She has already shown how easily she can monkey branch to live with someone else. Let her monkey branch away until she finds her dumb ass homeless. That is why most homeless are men. Men do not f~~~ for shelter. Women f~~~ for shelter and food.

Vaginas are magic like that.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[WallyParticipant]

mackiavelic wrote:

If you happen to find a female who you believe to be truly so awesome that you simply can’t live without her and you’re ready to kick all the other females you’re also making it with to the curb. and give up control of your time, space and wealth to her, first get your head examined, then go to a support group for divorced men, then come back here and tell us how you found the mythical NAWALT and then marry her as soon as she signs a pre-nuptual agreement.
Congratulations, you now have no reason to ever take crap from a female again.

Some of the best advice I have heard

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

AlGhul wrote:

I am frustrated because I dont have the skills to atract them, instantly f~~~ and then use for a while,

It’s not that you have or not the ‘skills’ to attract them. The only ‘skill’ needed to attract them is to behave like an asshole and ignore them. They will immediately need your validation and will do anything to get it.
You are a nice guy, and that is the reason you cannot attract them. That is why it took you 1 month to have sex with her. That was investment sex for her.
And truth is, it’s not worth turning into a ‘bad guy’ or changing who you are just to get pussy. That is why many men find the current situation unacceptable and choose to become MGTOW.

I made the same mistake of letting her back in and I regret it to this day. Do not get back with her. Walk away, from her and from all of them.
Take some time to get over your frustration and anger. Focus on yourself. Find equilibrium and the power to ignore them. Then, you will be able to f~~~ them if you so choose (not recommended) and be immune to emotional sabotage and guilt free.

Good luck!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

get her out of the apartment
Plastic garbage bags work great to put all her stuff in. When she comes home, nice for her to find all her stuff outside, the door lock changed, her key don’t work, the drama comes to a complete stop, and now my friend, she can go f~~~ anyone she wants.

[olderwiserParticipant 65]

Stargazer wrote:

This is the formula for staying happy as a man:

1) Control your own time, space and wealth
2) Engage with multiple females (if you so choose) and do not get too close to any of them
3) Get the most value you can out of a female as quickly as you can
4) Cut a female loose at the first sign of bulls~~~

I read this somewhere and it stuck with me “If Someone shows you their true colours, don’t try to repaint them.” Female will go the one she thinks will provide her what she thinks she is looking for (Perceived Value vs Actual Value). Most of the time she doesn’t know what she is looking for. Biology. Get educated on females, what you are going through is painful, this is what you need to do.

1. Distance yourself from her ASAP (However you do it, kick her out or ask her to go and stay with a friend for few days and don’t let her back in, get her stuff in bags and when she comes back that should be outside the house)
2. Start recording in case she doesn’t like what is going on, she will likely to go crazier, you need evidence.
3. Start exercising and put your anger into sculpting yourself. (Best way to control your emotions)
4. Read, read and read. I was once in your situation and this place saved my life.

Just know we are here brother. This time will pass. Stay healthy and stay safe.

Life consists of two days, one for you one against you. So when it's for you don't be proud or reckless, and when it's against you be patient, for both days are test for you.

[AlGhulParticipant 9]

Thanks a lot man olderwiser, I know there are more important thingsd in life but right now i feel like crap, Ill follow youre advice, thanks a lot for the support.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

AlGhul:

You ever hear the story of the scorpion and the frog? The scorpion needs to get to the other side of a pond and asks the frog for a ride. The frog says “Why would I do that? You’ll just sting me.” The scorpion says “Why would I do that. If I do that we both die.” Makes sense to the frog so he lets the scorpion hop on his back. About halfway across the pond the frog feels a sharp pain in his neck and knows he has been stung. The frog says “Why? Why did you do that? Now we are both going to die!” The scorpion replies, “What did you expect? I’m a scorpion”…..

She is a scorpion. Don’t be the frog…………….

Order the good wine

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Bail out, now.

She is not worth your time, never will worth it.

All of them are just like this, and every single man here will tell you the same. No NAWALT exists.

Brother, what do you think is best for you: The pain that you will experience within the time you spend with her, or the pain you will experience in the time without her? The first is granted for many, many years to come. The latter is granted for a few months, faster if you manage to occupy yourself within the days.

Believe, you DON’T need her, she needs you, and will do ANYTHING to keep you providing for her, and she already showed you several red flags and you ignored them.

I committed the same mistake you are about to commit, my friend, and if I was wiser (or red piller) at that time, I would had dumped my ex and saved myself from A LOT of pain later. She dumped me, and a few weeks later I decided to contact her to get back together, and she said yes. But, she asked me the same you asked your GF, and I said that I saw nobody (that was true, I only went to work and home, never spent a single moment out of my routine), but she said that she “hanged out” with two other men, and that one “she just went to a restaurant” and with the other she “went to a restaurant, but he was so nice, he just payed everything and was a perfect gentleman, that she ONLY kissed him in front of her house, when she dropped her at her place”.

Yeah, and I was IDIOT ENOUGH to believe it, man… She probably f~~~ed the two, didn’t liked the first, liked the second a little, but none of them gave her what I gave, did what I did, or was better than me.

I was more than the provider, I was almost her father…

A few weeks later, she told me “you are distant, colder… That is not what I want, please, what is happening?”… Yeah, what was happening?

I just got DISGUSTED with you, bitch, looking at you made me sick, and yet instead of LISTENING to the voice of REASON inside my head (and being a pussy whipped, blue pill mangina) I listened to the “heart’s voice”, pardoned her, and became who I was before that break up, and guess what? I just got more pain in the end.

And that IS my biggest mistake. So please, learn from my experience and DON’T DO THE SAME!

I really hope that you dump this woman, and that you get better and free yourself, brother.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[finallyfreeParticipant 341]

Yes these “modern” women are truly despicable. Run from this whore as fast as your legs can carry you. Trust me I went through a lot of back and forth BS with a seasoned tramp a few years ago. They love to play games when they know you love them -it’s sick. When she said we should get back together I finally I said to myself “screw this s~~~, she is just playing games as usual”. I cussed her out via. text and never looked back. You will waste years of your life playing with dumb ass women. You just have to cut them out completely if you want to get any emotional rest.
What Dark Kenshi said was spot on — ” The pain that you will experience within the time you spend with her, or the pain you will experience in the time without her? The first is granted for many, many years to come.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Take the advice of your MGTOW brothers. You cannot change a woman. It is in their DNA. I’ve been there. I jumped through more hoops than a circus act for these creatures. Every time, I extended myself – spent money on them, trusted them, and as soon as I no longer amused them and I no longer provided a utility for their “wants” – I was dumped instantly. The only way we can protect ourselves is to ignore them. And ONLY use them for OUR needs. I look back in retrospect and remember the over 20 years I was single and how free I was. I left the stress at work where it belonged. No BS when I walked in the door. I gave that up and learned my lesson. You will be stronger for it. Peace and freedom are priceless. Glad you are here – and sorry for your pain. We are with you in solidarity.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I always feel bad when guys “feel like s~~~” about a girl. Yesterday, a 19 year old guy emailed us thinking he was suffering from “red pill depression” because his girlfriend strayed. But it’s not “red pill depression” he’s just 19 and thinking about it too hard…. and being harder on himself than he needs to be! He should never have expected a 19 year old unmarried woman to be faithful in the first place.

And her body is not a “holy temple”. Not even she thinks of it that way. So why do you?

You’re being much harder on yourself than you need to be!

It’s not your fault.

You feel like s~~~ because she is still LIVING WITH YOU. Eject her. Immediately. Don’t let her live with you anymore. That’s not something she gets to do if she is going to have sex with someone else. “Have sex with other people, honey, but YOU DONT LIVE HERE ANYMORE. Get out.”. Every day she still lives there is another day you’re being “used”.

Stargazer wrote:

This is the formula for staying happy as a man:

1) Control your own time, space and wealth
2) Engage with multiple females (if you so choose) and do not get too close to any of them
3) Get the most value you can out of a female as quickly as you can
4) Cut a female loose at the first sign of bulls~~~

YESSSSSSS.

AlGhul wrote:

I would like to have that power that they have to, feelingless and mercyless use us and ther drop us and come back whenever they want

You DO have that power. Don’t let her come back. You’re done. And be merciless. Drop her just the same way. So what are you gonna do with that power? USE IT? Or let her get away with having power over you.

AlGhul wrote:

Sorry for the drama but never felt like this and for the language im from Mexico.

You don’t ever need to apologize for your language. Your English is way better than my Spanish.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

Dark Kenshi wrote:

Believe, you DON’T need her, she needs you, and will do ANYTHING to keep you providing for her, and she already showed you several red flags and you ignored them.

Man! That is so ‘quote-worthy’ that I put it in quotes!

Yes, coming from your male perspective you feel used, like she doesn’t need you and you feel unwanted.

SO UNTRUE!
Look at it from her female perspective.
I never thought of it myself, DarkKenshi is right, she needs you WAY more, she needs your solid branch to leap from, to ease her transition to the new douchebag. You are being the provider of the solid branch, that’s what she needs from you. So, give her the boot as soon as possible! Then you will find who has the power!
You are making it easier for her to f~~~ you over!
Man, this is gold plated advice, no, make that solid gold!

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[WarPiggParticipant 21]

Al Ghul, sometimes it helps to hear others who have gone through what you are going through, or maybe even worse.
I just ended a 27 year marriage…27 YEARS… to a woman who for our entire marriage I never was jealous of because she never gave me reason to be. Oh, she could be a bitch, but I always thought she was the faithful type. WRONG! Given the desire and circumstances, ANY woman will cheat. And I say ” Once a cheater, always a cheater”
I now see my ex for what she is/was…a whore. Any woman that will take up with another man doesn’t deserve ONE SECOND of you “feeling like s~~~” about.
She’s no good…and YOU are NOT the problem…she is. Someone earlier siad, don’t be too hard on yourself. I struggle with this daily but I keep reminding myself, I did the best I could in the relationship and I did not deserve to be cheated on…in other words, I am not to blame for her shortcomings.
F~~~ her…go MGTOW brother and I guarantee you, in 6 months or less, you will feel great!

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

megatoad69 wrote:

DarkKenshi wrote:

Believe, you DON’T need her, she needs you, and will do ANYTHING to keep you providing for her, and she already showed you several red flags and you ignored them.

Man! That is so ‘quote-worthy’ that I put it in quotes!
Yes, coming from your male perspective you feel used, like she doesn’t need you and you feel unwanted.
SO UNTRUE!Look at it from her female perspective.I never thought of it myself, DarkKenshi is right, she needs you WAY more, she needs your solid branch to leap from, to ease her transition to the new douchebag. You are being the provider of the solid branch, that’s what she needs from you. So, give her the boot as soon as possible! Then you will find who has the power!You are making it easier for her to f~~~ you over!Man, this is gold plated advice, no, make that solid gold!

Thank you, brother, that is just my personal experience.

I was exactly in the same spot that AlGhul is now, and believe me, if only I knew all this stuff that you brothers here taught me, I would had saved me a lot earlier from the pain and depression that I felt, not only because she jumped in two other c~~~s, but because later on she was pregnant with my kid, and she had a miscarriage.

That was what destroyed me, because at that time I thought that I was losing my entire family. But my old man (as always it is him who give me the best advices along with you, brothers!) showed me that actually I had a gift from “the heavens” because I was not tied to anything anymore, like he was for such a long time. Obviously, at first listening to this, I thought that he was a “son of a bitch”, because I loved my kid more than that I loved anything in this world, but after some time and much thinking, I was able to see the wisdom in his words.

Please, don’t misunderstand my words, I love kids, they are the future, I loved my son more than I loved myself, I would have done anything to keep him here, but by losing him, I got my life back. Call me a son of a bitch, or anything you want, ’cause I don’t care, that baby was my joy, love, life and universe.

My ex was not. She dumped me two weeks after the baby died. Probably she was planning to dump me already all that time.

Women are all cold motherf~~~ers. Be like them. This is the only thing that they respect. Boldness and coldness.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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