I Escaped From Hell – Help Me Make Sure I Never Go Back!

[Obey Your MasterParticipant 7]

Hello fellow MGTOW’ers. Obey Your Master here. I’m so happy to have found this place!

Hello all !!!

I was chatting with a friend I’ve not seen in some time yesterday and he pointed me here and I also bought ‘The rationale male’ – which I’m already deeply into. Resonate is not the word – I’ve been living this stuff for years.

Throughout my entire life I’ve had negative experiences overall with women. From my mum to my sister, to female ‘friends’, to girlfriend’s, to female business partners (they may even be the worst!).

I need some help with where to next chaps. As I’ll explain – I went to hell and back, survived, and now life is sweet. I get to have my cake and eat it after 5 years of hell….. I DO NOT want to get into the trap again. I worked my arse off to escape the trap once and I am a truly lucky man – I don’t want to go back there again…… Please help me to make sure I don’t go back to hell!

A bit of background: (I’ll keep a long story as short as I can)

5 years ago I was seeing an absolute nutcase who kept trying to keep me with her suicide threats and more after I told her to get lost. Me being a dumb white knight thought I could help/save her as she’d had a bad life even though I knew she was a loon. I bought the emotional blackmail hook line and sinker and didn’t make a clean break.

Of course I f~~~ed the skank a few times during this period (she’d promised she was on the pill) and it’s no surprise in retrospect that she got pregnant. I later found out for sure that she wasn’t taking the pill and it was all a big trap to get me to support that venomous benefit scrounging snake for the next 18 years.

So, once she told me she was pregnant she of course demanded I marry her and support her and yada yada yada.

Realising that was a death sentence I said ‘f~~~ – no way’. However, even though I’d never wanted children, something within me really felt that I did want this child. I made the mistake of telling her that – and was clearly told (once she knew I wanted him and she had leverage) – “there are 2 options – you either marry me and you’re all in as a family or you p~~~ off and never see your only child again.”

I of course took option 3 that wasn’t presented – wanting nothing to do with her whatsoever but wanting my (at the time unborn) child. As you can imagine – this sent this evil bit of poison even crazier. She wrecked the next 2 years of my life (and still continues to try even now). Constant harassment, sometimes 500 screaming calls a day throughout her pregnancy and beyond, constant craziness and I was prevented from seeing my son for the first year of his life. For the next year she had me in contact centres getting an hour a month with the other poor dad’s/inmates there if she even bothered to turn up at all.

I started court proceedings almost the day he was born, but it took a year (and sacking my solicitor) to even see him. It took me 2 years to get even 10 minutes with my son alone outside a contact centre or outside her home.

The court system in the UK is so stacked against Dad’s it’s a joke. When he was 2 years old I moved to be much closer to him (I lived 100 miles away) as I realised I was getting nowhere in court being so far away. By this time the stress of it all and the constant harassment had meant my business was destroyed as I wasn’t coping well, and I basically didn’t have a pot to p~~~ in. I decided I would get serious about 2 things and 2 things only:

1.    Representing myself in court and trying to go from almost nothing after 2 years, to shared residence with an equal 50/50 split of time – and completely keeping that crazy bitch out of my life

2.    Working to educate myself further in skills needed to run a super successful business, and to start a new (unrelated) business, and make a lot of money

So I moved locally to my son (and her) with 6 months rent paid off, a tiny £xxx sum in my bank account, and no job. I was broke but needed little to live on and had 6 months to find a way to get a small income while I worked on creating a bigger one, and to start getting really serious with court.

The snake threw the kitchen sink at me and tried to destroy me when I moved there. I was accused of everything it’s possible to accuse a man of. I even once made the mistake of having her in my house during a handover and she got her phone out, smiled, pressed audio record, and started screaming for me to stop hitting her! I had social services investigations, the police regularly out to me – you guys get the drill I’m sure.

Fast forward another 2 years……

The court finally worked out all of her lies – and representing myself paid off. I got full shared residency and 50/50 split of time! As a side note, it’s sickening that it took being put through hell to get what should be the right of all men.

With the news getting better and better, during that 2 year period I started a business after 9 months of moving there. 15 months after launch it’s a multi-million pound turnover business and I already draw a salary over £250k per year! Even better – as I have a 50/50 split – the snake is not entitled to a single penny of it!! Under UK law she’d be due 15% of my income for the next 14 years otherwise until he’s 18.

So anyways – to the point of my first hello post…….

Life is sweet now! I love my son more than anything and can spend proper time with him, and have time for me, and have time for my career. I escaped the snake. Every day I realise more and more how lucky I am! I literally have my cake and get to eat it. My boy means the world to me and I realise (for me at least) I have the dream – my child but not the woman that comes with it….

During the 4/5 year period when this happened I casually saw a few women – but essentially – the truth is I’m f~~~ing terrified of sticking my dick in anyone! I don’t think anyone would blame me, and I’ve only told 5% of the story here….. I want to really start living my life having achieved my main goals – but fear is holding me back…

I’ve had a good read of the forums today and haven’t seen much on male contraception…. Surely that’s a vital part of MGTOW? Surely none of you trust a woman with contraception? Rubbers aren’t exactly great either…..

I absolutely now want to have regular sex again, I definitely intend to get some plates spinning, I realise (as Rollo says) that I am the prize, but there’s no way I’m letting some snake trap me after I spent 5 year escaping this trap!

So I’m thinking of getting a vasectomy. I think it’s the only way I can have sex again and actually enjoy it and not be terrified.
I know it can be undone in many cases, but I may decide I want another child, and part of me says if I did meet someone I wanted to have a child with

I might not be able to. Another part of me of course says f~~~ that – that’s a big mistake…..

So what do you guys do/think with regard to this?

Thanks all….. Amazing forum!
Obey Your Master

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Vasectomy isn’t 100% effective. I suggest vasectomy with condoms to greatly reduce your risk or you could use testosterone therapy. There are side effects with testosterone therapy so you will have to do your research. Condoms are a must due to STD, you don’t want to get infected do you?

#1 Never invite women into your place.
#2 Never tell them you own a business
#3 Don’t tell them much you make because that’s why they will try anything to have a child with you.
#4 Use of those disposable phones aka pay as you go phones with a fake adress

http://www.returnofkings.com/42046/how-to-use-and-obtain-testosterone-for-male-birth-control?ModPagespeed=noscript

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Welcome Obey

There are quite a few options. As CrazyCanuck said a vasectomy  is not 100% full proof but it is for the vast majority of men if it has been done properly. Its the closet the thing to not getting a chick pregnant as a singular birth control method. I do not recommend f~~~ing with your testosterone levels or popping pills until you get older. Taking T is a vicious cycle were your body produces less T to compensate for the artificially added T. If your seriously considering that route talk to a doctor. Stay away from dick pills unless you are older or want to have blood drawn out of your dick with a needle in the emergency room. You can always get a vasectomy and freeze your sperm at a bank. I hate condoms as well but they do protect against STDs and also add a layer of protection. Whatever you decide to do always screen bitches.

In the words of the Dwayne Michael Carter, Jr, also know as Lil Wayne “No cum for your pussy only cum for your throat. You ain’t getting no child support.”

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[gamespot1114Participant 20]

Hello and welcome to the forums. I don’t recommend having another child, even if you really want one. Think about what you went through already to have the son you have now, and ask yourself if getting another child is worth risking a similar situation as the one you had before. I’m sorry to hear about everything you’re going through now. I would also recommend not having sex with any women anymore, even if you really want to. The risks absolutely do not outweigh the rewards. Porn is always a better alternative.

[Anonymous 42]

Sounds like the bat s~~~ crazy “normal” woman to man interface. You’re fortunate to be alive and enjoying life! Welcome to MGTOW!

[touchecooperParticipant 4]

A Vasectomy is 100 percent effective if you have yourself sautered.  I had mine done when I was 21 years old and have never once had any type of scare.  Even chicks that tried to get pregnant without telling me used to wonder why they couldn’t get pregnant by me.  I secretly smiled each time.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Bang 40+ year olds if you do not want to use condoms. Most of them are either baren, had their tubes tied, or on birth control. By that age most of these women have finally given up on the idea of having (more)kids, and even if they wanted and were able to get pregnant their chance is less than 5% per cycle. Men are still waiting on cheap, easy, and non-surgical birth control, as far as I know.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

Holy s~~~ mate, I love reading and hearing stories of guys who have been through the ringer, an absolute gauntlet and come out the other side as successfully as you have. Hats off to you.
Theres a few different forms of male contraceptive pill, though none of them actually available for men due to feminism and women do not want to lose that guillotine over a mans head. When ya put ya head into a woman, ya putting ya head into the noose and hoping for the best.
I strongly support vasectomies; while not fool-proof theyre far more certain than condoms or trusting a woman with her own birth control…

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[13-JzzalParticipant 134]

If you don’t trust condoms and don’t want to get a vasectomy you could take a look at this http://www.newmalecontraception.org/vasalgel/

Vasalgel™ is a polymer gel injected into the vas deferens, rather than cutting the vas (as is done in vasectomy). Its main advantage over vasectomy: It is hoped that it will be more readily reversible than vasectomy: if a man wishes to restore fertility, whether after months or years, the polymer would be flushed out of the vas with another injection. This method could thus be ideal for men who think they are finished having children but would like the chance to change their minds in case of remarriage or the death of a child—and it could possibly even be appropriate for men who want child-spacing or young men who want to complete their schooling before having children.

Vasalgel uses a similar technique as RISUG® (in advanced clinical trials in India). Development of this new polymer had to start from the beginning to produce a product at a large scale that could achieve regulatory approval. Preclinical studies include 12 months of successful results in rabbits with primate studies ongoing. The goal is to have it on the market as an alternative to vasectomy as soon as possible, with a first clinical trial beginning in 2015 or 2016 depending on regulatory approvals.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

Vasectomy isn’t 100% effective.

The procedure has greatly improved over the years. Back in the day, they simply cut the cord and called it a day. Nowadays, they cut a piece out (which means the ends can not reach each other), burn the ends, and place titanium clips on the ends.

I wouldn’t say it’s 100% guaranteed, but I highly doubt any sperm are getting through.

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