I Don't Want to Be Wealthy Anymore…

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Being wealthy has destroyed my life. I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and the ability for me to just buy whatever the f~~~ I want has really made my life depressing. I’m not like a billionaire or anything, but I have everything I want and I have nothing to strive for anymore. I was so much happier when I was poor. That was 10+ years ago. I remember saving up for s~~~, and being so happy when I got it. Now if I make a large purchase even in the thousands of dollars it doesn’t even make me smile anymore.

I’ve thought about what do do and I’ve thought of several possibilities so far. I could move to a foreign country and live in a small 1 bedroom apartment and spend my time out living life instead of here in America where things have gotten so dull. The problem is, I’ve heard of how difficult it is to integrate into another culture and make friends so that makes me a little discouraged.

I could just give away most of my wealth to a charity of some kind, or invest it in some sort of fund that I can’t access for X number of years.

I’ve thought about learning survivalist stuff and going and living in the middle of bumf~~~. Unfortunately I’ve gotten very used to the pampered pussy life and I don’t think I’d last any more than a few hours.

I run my own business. I think it could probably survive without me. And if it can’t, well, no big loss I guess. I can’t believe I’m saying this after working SO F~~~ING HARD at building it, and creating the little empire I have now. But if I’m not happy, what good is it?

I’ve never been diagnosed with depression, but if I ever went to a doctor I’m sure they’d diagnose me. But I do NOT want pills. That’s no solution. I’m not suicidal and never have been, but I’m terrified what might happen if I start taking antidepressants. Besides, my problem isn’t that I’m lacking a pill.

I grew up in the middle of bumf~~~ with barely 2 pennies to rub together. And I was happy. Now I’ve got hundreds of millions of pennies to rub together and I’m not happy. I don’t need to buy a brand new car in order to feel happiness. Just the fact that I CAN buy that car makes buying it a depressing experience. I live frugally. It’s a habit I’ve always had since I grew up so poor and it’s never left me.

I’ve thought about starting another business, but seeing as I already have all the money I want, what would be the point? I have no desire for power. I don’t want to go into politics.

I’ve taken a bazillion classes, learned new skills, improved myself along the way. I’m thinking about taking Kendo (Japanese swordsmanship), but it’s not something I’d probably ever use in my life. I feel like my life is over and I’ve still probably got 50 years here. Achieving early in life is somewhat of a curse.

The ONLY thing I can think of doing is going to college (I never went to college). Not for a career, but for access to the college resources. Maybe I’ll learn about medicine and try to find a cure for something. Or maybe I’ll try to solve some of the Earth’s mysteries. The problem is motivation. I feel like I’m stuck on a f~~~ing hamster wheel (my business) and there’s no way to get off. It’s just easier to go on day after day doing the same old s~~~.

I don’t know what the point of saying all this is. But maybe it will help other members that think money is the answer to all your problems. I used to believe that, but I can tell you that IT IS NOT!

[RoyDalParticipant]

All men need a goal — something to strive for that is bigger than themselves. Keep searching and yours will become apparent. It might be tomorrow, it might be years, but it will come.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9544]

Tell you what, if you don’t want your money anymore, I’ll be more than glad to take it off your hands, because I’m sick of having nothing. I’m the kind of guy who wants things; fancy things, high-end businesses.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[Anonymous 42]

Buy my house in Vermont at 1/2 price and turn it into a MGTOW refugee camp, 30+ acres, last structure on the powerline, top of a ridge line, surrounded by wildlife…

Cause I don’t give a f~~~ either, I cut the rope to EVERYTHING, and never been happier! I’m not shoving it up my ass, THEY ARE.

Bad timing I guess, too many torpedoes, MINES, KAMIKAZES!

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Dude..move to Australia.Just about everything here is trying to kill you……….the women included

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Funny I kinda know what you mean, I was brought up with little money worked hard , invested at retired at 50 .. Like you I was happier saving, working extra hours.

I spend lots of time in Phillipines, but banging hookers and drinking beer gets dull after a while.

Is it the human condition that makes us want to strive, no strive no goal to achieve ?

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

I was just this close to agree with what ResidentEvil7 has suggested above but then I kind of caught myself in a somewhat similar situation like the one you are in DarkRyu albeit let’s say on a much smaller scale and under a different setup, so I can quite relate to what you’re saying. Now it’s time to elaborate:

I actually happened to grow up in quite a pampered and good intelligent and somewhat rich(ish) childhood but over the course of recent (roughly 20) years I lost almost all of my money slowly and gradually (in part also obviously due to the world economic crisis), which I think is actually way more painful than losing it all in one big rip(off) although it may be be easier to equally gradually adapt to the “progressively” declining situation like I had to, so that is one part of it.

Basically I have quite been to “both worlds” more or less just like you but considering the flow of time in the exact opposite direction.

Now very recently since the start of my partly paid holidays (6 weeks in total; another few weeks to go…) I realized “Ok so with everything running as it is I will be able to just survive financially until say February next year (after which I got all my plans set up to create an at least slightly better life for myself) so I got my little savings to not travel a lot but to get by until then…”

With that realization in mind I went out one evening for a drink on my own and I caught myself thinking: “Now hang on a minute, right now I can pretty much afford to go out more or less every evening for the remaining duration of my holidays but this is boring somehow… … and actually how is this to be a holiday when on the one hand yes, I do have all that temporary leisure time right now and yet on the other hand I should also still have to do a few other things concerning the final preparations for my new next year’s endeavors, shouldn’t I…? Have I somehow lost my drive right now..?”

So in essence I questioned my holidays (or its purpose) as a whole somewhat (also in part because during the “not-holiday-season” I don’t have to or rather cannot work every single day being a bit of a freelancer in a way, hence even then I do get my occasional “times off” in between assignments to recover but rather in a compulsory kind of way)

Sure enough as from spring next year things are very likely to look up for me (after a long period of just living/surviving day by day more or less) so in a sense it could very well bring a lot of my drive back to me from that point forward, because to me money right now equals survival time, but until then, well… … you get the picture.

Here is a movie quote (which I might have cited in here before) by Willem Dafoe from a very thought provoking flick called “Far away so close” concerning time and money:

‘They say “time is money”. But hey, they got it all wrong, man. Time is the absence of money…’

With that quote also the movie “In Time” springs to my mind, where all the (time-)rich people tend to move very slowly and controlled, whereas all the (time-)poor people more or less rush around like headless chickens. Jeez, I caught myself behaving like them as well being very restless myself for a while.

Now seriously, was that all really worth it looking at my “right now” and furthermore would it ever be worth it again as from next year…? Honestly at this point: I dunno but I guess “time will tell”.

I hope I made some interesting and insightful points here, people.

Best

Ned

PS.: Another thought provoking quote from the scifi flick “Freejack” regarding all this: “The ancient riddle: what’s the point…?”

And here is that very scene clip:

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Try to double your money in 5 years.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Ned Trent wrote:

it may be be easier to equally gradually adapt to the “progressively” declining situation like I had to, so that is one part of it

That’s the key Ned, I’ve adapted to the new “bottom”, the adaptations couldn’t keep up with the whole decline, I was hit pretty hard with tax increases, stock losses, inflation, and income at times slashed to 1/12 of what I used to make. A dollar turned into less than dime and inflation dwindled the base dollar making it’s value even less. Lots of abandoned houses, there’s one next to me that’s caving in. Lots of property owners must feel these properties are worthless as it’s mostly abandoned. Big mills that employed thousands of people all empty now.

I’m adjusted for a steady accent and paying my unexpected long term debt down that in prior years would have only taken 6 months to a year to pay off.

I’m growing veggies and have fruit trees, goats, chickens, and burning waste oil/wood/plastic, I’m even working on insulated doors and foundation, everything I can do to close the spigot of dollars going out. Including not paying property tax in a destroyed residential subdivision. I’ve joined the masses here and gave up paying for gluttonous tyranny.

What are these “entities” called <insert whatever Town/city-incorporated> going to do with all this abandoned land in America once it’s tax demand exceeds it’s taxable value? Eat it? Plant immigrants on it? Start a new plantation? Rinse and repeat?

Lets see what government workers do when their pensions are slashed to nothing by whatever mechanism achieves actual and real equality, their hulls will smash to smithereens before they will ever figure out how to survive.

This house (U.S.A.) has been full of financial termites for generations. I can see it in all the wreckage around me. And these f~~~ing idiots are putting a proverbial swimming pool and hot tub over all the termite infested lumber.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Interesting observations there, Tower.

I still maintain that, as far as I can tell at least, the slow and gradual process of financial decline (as opposed to a sudden radical decline from say stratosphere level straight to bottom) is far more torturing and nerve wrecking in part also because you can just about feel it going down ever so slightly rather than very obviously with one bang. It’s like the “frog soup theory” with the temperature increase being reversed and as we all know humans can either boil to death or freeze to death and either way making the process very subtle ultimately makes it very painful.

Come to think of it maybe the corporate governments’ schizophrenic plan is as follows: “So, people can’t stand obvious pain. Well then, let’s very gradually and subtly cool down social benefits schemes (in that very gradually cooling down the “social climate” if you will) on the one hand and on the other hand at the same time raise the demands for taxes in the same very subtle fashion (as in very subtly heating up the drive of people to make more and more money right up to burnout levels) and eventually they will feel both pains equally and may try to rise up but, by then it will (hopefully) be too late for them to do so or they might just be too exhausted to do so, because a newly implied world order will already have been put in place…”

But here is the (our) kicker: MGTOW awareness currently is also developing in a still rather moderate and subtle kind of way and presumably therefore is not even on the governments’ radar as of yet, so in a sense we are hitting them back in the same subtle ways that they try to force us into ultimate submission, thus fighting them more or less exactly with their same (presumed as) strongest weapons.

Ever since my own regular red pill intake, like I said it before, I do tend to view things differently and I do question many more things including but not limited to posing this one core question:

“Having experienced this sudden economic crisis/collapse as an intelligent human being and given the current sick economic setup I in all seriousness have to ask: What actually really is the very point of getting or being rich or even mega rich…?”

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 42]

Ned Trent wrote:

“Having experienced this sudden economic crisis/collapse as an intelligent human being and within the current sick economic setup I in all seriousness have to ask: What actually really is the very point of getting or being rich or even mega rich…?”

I wouldn’t know the point to getting rich or mega rich??? I’m happy knowing all my tomato plants took down their wire stanchions last night in a heavy rain. But I’m happy! My vegetables weigh that much! Next year I’m considering a hydroponic wall of tomatoes, the food works that good! F~~~ money, I’m enjoying life!

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Bah, that feeling will pass as you find new goals in your life.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m enjoying life!

One day Tower, I may give you a visit.

Would you receive/welcome me if I did..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 54]

A Man needs a daily struggle. When your stuggleing you hate it. You wish it could all be just a LITTLE damn easyer.But as you have found out easyer isn’t nessasarely better. So what daily struggle can you now inflict upon your self? Some things that’s a real challeng.Helping others that are struggling. Let there struggle become yours too.

[Anonymous 42]

Ned Trent wrote:

MGTOW wrote:

I’m enjoying life!

One day Tower, I may give you a visit.

Would you receive/welcome me if I did..?

I trust you Ned, of course!

[Anonymous 18]

DarkRyu wrote:

I’ve never been diagnosed with depression, but if I ever went to a doctor I’m sure they’d diagnose me. But I do NOT want pills.

The diagnosis of depression goes along : SIGECAPS for periods > 2 weeks. That’s how major depressive disorder is diagnosed.

S- Sleep loss, I- Interest in things you used to enjoy, G- Guilt, E- Low Energy, C- Low Concentration, A- Reduced appetite, P- Reduced psychomotor functioning, and S- reduced sex drive.

I believe you need to meet 4 or 5 of these to be diagnosed.

From time to time I usually have at least 4. And I live a generally healthy and happy life without any medications. Moving around and exercising is the most powerful antidote to depressive mindset. No medication is without its side-effects. And all medications are poisons give the right dosage.

Avoid meds. At all costs.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Find an epic goal that will take 10+ years.

Not financial.

Do something positive for the world.

Find a problem (there exist many), and solve it.

Maybe look for a charitable cause and do some volunteer work.

Men need a goal.

Not my property... Not my problem

[Anonymous 24]

If money were of no concern to me DarkRyu I would travel, hike, sail, bike… Whatever, you name it. And I would help people out here and there along the way. Not just financially, but spiritually in a non-religious way. Something as simple as talking to a homeless person and buying him a meal or something… Whatever… I would explore, fish, kayak, camp, make friends and have adventures all over the world while doing what I could to help others out who are having a rough time. I have no idea how all of that could not put a smile on your face everyday.

[survivorParticipant 610]

Don’t do anything reckless you’ll regret in coming years with your money or business, I’d say that much. I know guys who tossed it to the wind and regretted it later in life.

Having said that, see if you can devote part of your excess cash to starting up a men’s shelter in your area or nearby. There are homeless men who for one reason or another are in dire straits. See if you can give them a hand up and help them get started on the road back to a somewhat normal life, finding housing; getting clean and sober; gaining enough employment to support themselves; and since you’re obviously good with money some financial counseling because if they are homeless they obviously can’t handle money well, either. Obviously, warn them about women, too.

In short, dedicate, yourself to men’s causes. You’ll most likely find yourself quite busy.

God Bless.

"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi

[HitmanParticipant]

your wealth is your freedom.
invest half in a long term account.
then batton down and join the rest of us..
.
never lose the ability to walk away from where you are.
even now in my debt,
i COULD leave and start fresh somewhere..
iv’e done it a few times in my life..
.
all my possessions in a car ,
and off to a new place..
.
count your blessings before you curse them.

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