"I Don't Want Anything For Christmas" Men VS Women

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  • #697066
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    ResidentEvil7
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    I was watching on my local Chicago news less than 30 minutes ago about what is meant when you hear someone say they don’t want anything for Christmas. Do you believe them? According to them, when a man doesn’t want anything and gets nothing, he can handle it, but women actually do get disappointed, because she will say you weren’t thinking about her.

    Other than my mom who really means it when she doesn’t want anything, I believe that women would feel bad if she gets nothing for Christmas and men can brush it off. He may feel a little bad or left out, but he can handle it more maturely than women.

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    #697068
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    Trailboss
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    If you want to find out: Get nothing for her for Christmas! Then you can call her out on her bulls~~~ when she complains! #MANOUT!

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    #697071
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    Solid
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    but women actually do get disappointed, because she will say you weren’t thinking about her.

    This is a mental health problem, c~~~s are f~~~ed up in their heads. I don’t know what could cause this, maybe a combination of narcissism + extremely big ego + being delusional ?

    He may feel a little bad or left out, but he can handle it more maturely than women.

    Men usually mean what it says, if I say “I don’t want anything for christmas”, I really meant that, as the same as “I don’t want my meat overcooked”. Women are the ones who make simple things complicate.

    #697074
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    Narwhal
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    The way I see it, there are three kinds of gifts that can be given.

    The first is gifts that you cannot afford, or are not capable of buying yourself. That’s primarily what happens with kids and dependents. They do not have the capability of purchasing something for themselves, so they are dependent on others to provide for them.

    Men, and MGTOW especially, tend to not really fit into this category…because they are no one’s dependent. You can’t buy me a gift I can’t get for myself, since there is nothing I can’t get for myself. Even for a man who is married, they can get the item themselves because they are the wage earner.

    The second category would be something of sentimental value. The gift shows that you know and care about that person. It generally takes time and effort and can’t just be bought at a store.

    I think these gifts are also hard for men, because women tend not to appreciate these gifts, and men aren’t supposed to have relationships where gifts of this kind of value of have meaning.

    The third category is that of a servant to master. The sign is a gift of your devotion to the master, to show that they are your better. The 3 wise men gave frankincense, incense, and murh (sp?) to Jesus as a sign of respect. To show that they saw him as a king.

    In modern day…this is what jewelry is. Women want jewelry as token of their husband/BFs reverence to them. It is important to them that the jewelry comes from the man, even though it hold know sentimental value. It’s value is it’s display of dominance and control over a man.

    And obviously, most men have little need for this kind of gift.

    So when men say they don’t want any thing, they mean it. They understand that they can get what they want, the gifter is incapable of sentiment, and any gift to show devotion would be a façade anyway. Women, of course they want gifts. They are much more interested on the last category than anything else.

    BTW, the conversation reminds me of a Christmas when I was married. My wife was not working and we were in debt. My wife was upset with me because there was nothing that I wanted. She didn’t realize that she really couldn’t give me anything because anything she gave would have to be first taken from me.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #697076
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    Awakened
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    The Useless Resident Parasite had the nerve to make a comment/suggestion about a Christmas gift a couple weeks back, but I decided to get her the usual Nothing, but at least her suggestion gave me a chuckle.

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    #697080
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    Surfdude12
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    It used to be you would guess what someone wants for Christmas and buy them a surprise gift.

    But now everyone is so vain they say to you “I want XYZ gift” or “Just get me a giftcard”. Reminds me of a 5 year old telling their parents what they want from Santa.

    Whatever happened to spontaneity and surprise when it came to gift giving? What’s even the point of wrapping something when the recipient knows what it is? It also shows you know someone well if you buy them something they’ll like.

    #697083
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    Narwhal
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    Agreed surfdude. This is how I feel regarding gifts with my sibling and nieces, nephews. We don’t actually ‘know’ each other, so we must ask what so and so wants. And there is general price range on the gifts. Half the time, it results in someone getting what they kinda want, but really just came up with something decent so I have something to give them. Who wins in this scenario? The store that made the sale.

    I’ve suggested that instead of gifts, we just write each other checks of identical amounts. Even exchange. Of course, that’s non-sensical. The best option is just do nothing and call it a day.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #697093
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    Surfdude12
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    Agreed surfdude. This is how I feel regarding gifts with my sibling and nieces, nephews. We don’t actually ‘know’ each other, so we must ask what so and so wants. And there is general price range on the gifts. Half the time, it results in someone getting what they kinda want, but really just came up with something decent so I have something to give them. Who wins in this scenario? The store that made the sale.

    I’ve suggested that instead of gifts, we just write each other checks of identical amounts. Even exchange. Of course, that’s non-sensical. The best option is just do nothing and call it a day.

    Yes, instead of the recipient being grateful for someone going to trouble for getting them a gift as an end in itself, they’re preoccupied with themselves and how the gift doesn’t correspond with their needs.

    #697095
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    Romulus
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    I share some small gift giving with a few people I am close to, and I do so regardless of whether it is a woman or man. I have found a few women across the years that I can be friends with, with the understanding long established that we are not romantic in any fashion, just a friend.

    My family pushes buying gifts for everyone, including 12 nieces and nephews, but I said I’m not participating in that ridiculous tradition.

    I like exchanging gifts when it isn’t something that is imposed by holiday and family tradition. I have one friend that every year gets a bottle of Makers Mark from me, and he buys me a few expensive cigars. Usually we consume both at some point watching bowl games.

    I’m full monk right now so I don’t have to deal with the worse of it. When I was in a relationship, if a woman had said she didn’t want anything for xmas….I wouldn’t have believed her. Women use guys buying them gifts as a way to judge their self worth. Guys don’t

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

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    Badger
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    Or you could tell her that “My dear, especially for you, I decided to get you a gift from NASA – a box of space!”

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    Normalizing men not getting anything and being told to just deal with it is the reason men have such high suicide rates and depression.

    This idea that men are unfeeling non-human creatures is cruel, but that’s what I expect from women and simps.

    By the time you really don’t care, you’re MGTOW and you’ve already distanced yourself from women and mainstream society. And when that happens they start whining and bitching and demanding you pay them attention and pander to them, but you’re so far gone you can’t do it even if you cared.

    Ultimately this gynocentric attitude is going to backfire.

    I’m not sure if feminists are completely full of bulls~~~ and just revised history claiming men oppressed women, it is impossible considering men are naturally blue pill and tend to be much kinder and softer on weakling females. But perhaps it’s true, because women behaved so abominably that men in previous cultures saw women’s true nature and then all lost compassion and kindness, and returned the same treatment towards women. And that seems to be feminist theory and the environment women are actively seeking to create, because apparently they want to be dominated and controlled.

    Since Western men refuse to do it, they’ve been importing Muslim men, who treat their men much worse than even Western women treat Western men. No matter how bad you think Muslim women have it, the Muslim men have it far worse, that is a truth in all societies I’ve seen. Men always have it worse.

    #697117
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    Narwhal
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    Normalizing men not getting anything and being told to just deal with it is the reason men have such high suicide rates and depression.
    This idea that men are unfeeling non-human creatures is cruel, but that’s what I expect from women and simps.

    I don’t think anyone’s saying that men’s needs are unimportant, just that men mean what they say when they say they don’t want anything. Men don’t blame someone else when they don’t get a gift after they specifically said they don’t want anything. Even if they do want something, they understand what they want as something that they are unlikely to receive it since it requires people who don’t normally give a s~~~ to start giving a s~~~.

    Besides all that, I don’t think men’s needs revolve around receiving gifts the same way women’s tend to. That’s typically not how a man feels loved by a woman or a man for that matter.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #697192
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    SpiderHerder
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    Personally, I want nothing, and like Solid said, I mean it.

    I don’t need anything and also I don’t want the pressure to have to reciprocate. Useless societal BS if you ask me.

    Thanks for bringing this up, ResidentEvil.

    #697199
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    Badger
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    Translation: “Don’t use my money to buy me a gift.”

    #697296
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    Get a man something he needs and will use and appreciate, thats a different story.

    I understand the statement though, I dont want presents that I would never use and have to be fake nice about getting. Also you get to a point you dont want one more thing piling up in the house.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #697305
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    One lady I know said she wanted Bose for Christmas. I didn’t even respond. Let them buy their own gifts.

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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    but women actually do get disappointed, because she will say you weren’t thinking about her.

    This is a mental health problem, c~~~s are f~~~ed up in their heads. I don’t know what could cause this, maybe a combination of narcissism + extremely big ego?

    It is several things.

    It is because its a blow to their self worth/value. They canot handle rejection and this is a form of rejection. You have to love them so much that you cannot stop giving them something even when they tell you they dont want anything.

    Second because its a lie and they secretly do want you to get them something, they just dont want to tell you what they want, either they dont know themselves or they want you to figure it out.

    Third its a s~~~ test to see if you will jump throuh hoops and get them something they want. You are supposed to know them well enough to know what they want even when they do not. We must perpetually entertain amuse and surprise them. Or its our fault they are not happy. See how the blame shifting works?

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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    Colin Combover in a Coma
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    but women actually do get disappointed, because she will say you weren’t thinking about her.

    This is a mental health problem, c~~~s are f~~~ed up in their heads. I don’t know what could cause this, maybe a combination of narcissism + extremely big ego + being delusional ?

    He may feel a little bad or left out, but he can handle it more maturely than women.

    Men usually mean what it says, if I say “I don’t want anything for christmas”, I really meant that, as the same as “I don’t want my meat overcooked”. Women are the ones who make simple things complicate.

    Women suffer from mental health issues merely for having a vagina. There is always something seeping out of their tarantula faced crevices daily. Imagine walking around wearing a towel in case you “leak”, bending over to receive a mans white stuff, and have to bleed for a few days every month. Buy the women in you’re life a 15inch black rubber dildo, trust me they will appreciate the gesture…..something in, something out. Equilibrium.

    #697353
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    Anonymous
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    I was introduced to the “Bait and Switch” concept as a kid by my mother. She would ask me every year what I wanted for my birthday/Xmas and she would ask for a list of suggestions.

    Now I was a kid so that seemed too good an opportunity to pass up so I would make a list and she would criticize it and complain about the cost of these things. I had no idea what they cost actually.

    So come B’day or Xmas I would end up with stuff that wasn’t on the list, that in some cases was even more expensive than the stuff on the list and stuff I just didn’t want and would never end up using or enjoying.

    So it only took 2 times for me to just start saying “Nothing” and left it at that. I don’t need the games and the guilt trips. I will get my own s~~~ thank you.

    As far as women saying they don’t want anything and then getting upset when they get just that? It comes back to the basic idea that we are meant to read their minds and so although we HEAR then say nothing, we are meant to READ that they do in fact want something.

    Not to mention despite being strong, intelligent, independent women we are meant to also know they can be very wrong and we are meant to step in and correct this.

    Unless of course they really did mean nothing in which case we are meant to mind read that as well.

    #697375
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    Trader1913
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    I’ve never liked holidays, its almost always an excuse to waste my time and money on someone else that is trying to take advantage of me.

    When I want something I get it, when my family members want something I get it for them if they can’t.

    I’ve always preferred cash during holidays, because I know better than anyone what I want. Most people are horrible gift givers.

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