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Anonymous38I’m not sure I can ever be in a relationship again.
I know I’m still relatively young – mid-thirties, and that things change, so I’m not gonna say “I will never”, but at least right now I’m not able to.
I recently started seeing a girl. To cut a short story even shorter, very soon I found myself back in that familiar blue-pilled state of mixed emotions: pining, anxiety, rage, etc.
The problem is that I can’t not analyse the woman’s behaviour. And as her behaviour towards you is ever shifting, you get stuck in a pattern of perceiving, analysing, worrying, then trying to ‘fix’ it by changing your behaviour. You know when you open up and act more caring, you start to move into her friend zone. You can literally observe it in her behaviour. Then you act angry, or aloof, and notice her warming to you again.
It’s a sickening merry go round from which there is no escape. You’ve got two choices, you ‘game’ her to keep her, even then knowing she’s only with you because of your game, or you say f~~~ living to please a woman. I can’t be bothered, life is too short. Being alone has disadvantages, but more and more I’m seeing these disadvantages are far less weighty than those when you’re attached, no matter how ‘good’ your woman is.
I thought I could beat the system, again. Use my red pill knowledge to stay sufficiently distant. But I can’t, it’s not possible, at least for me. I inevitably become emotionally involved. I’m not ashamed to admit that, it’s who I am. I can’t do things by halves.
If a MGTOW can be with a woman, I think the SMV differential is key. She’s far less likely to s~~~ test you if she’s beneath you.
I feel like a fool. Though I take a small comfort in knowing that this surely gets me closer to true indifference to women.
I do need to love, it’s good for me. But maybe this just has to be in other contexts than a romantic relationship.
Don’t feel like a fool man. Sometimes you need the bulls~~~ to happen before you finally get fed up. If it works out for you great. But keep in mind though there is a HIGH chance she will screw you over. Above all LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. All the best bro.
What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.
Anonymous43mmmm yummy bitter red pill…goes down smooth. like gravel over broken glass and shredded metal.
I would love to feel the thrill of a woman in love with me. I want that “wow” feeling when I see a beautiful woman as she walks slowly towards me, wraps her arms around my neck and kisses me.
Once you understand she is not yours, only your turn, she is a chameleon after resources and is a vector for disease, capable of spermjacking, possibility of the one phone call, and the center of a s~~~ vortex the spell is broken. She is not some magical being sent from God. She is a hormone driven creature with a warm wet meat hole and oversized skin tags, another mouth to feed and another set of bills to pay.
I hate the red pill, and I embrace it. Red pill stole the magic, but lets me see the world for how it really is. I can’t see the magic anymore, I know how the illusion is done, and it is no longer amusing. It is sad and pathetic.
Anonymous13Being alone has disadvantages, but more and more I’m seeing these disadvantages are far less weighty than those when you’re attached, no matter how ‘good’ your woman is.
Since the red pill, I don’t see one single disadvantage to being alone.
I don’t see a single downside.
My apartment is my own, my money is my own. My place is as I left it when I come back in from work. I do what I want, when I want. No drama, no nagging. No c~~~ spending everything I earn and plunging us both into terminal debt.
No bitch to dial 911 because she’s not happy so you must be destroyed.
There is NO downside.
Your blue pill programming tells you there is a downside.
It’s a LIE.
You guys are nuts. A woman is incapable of love in any real sense of the word. (except love of money).
The problem is that I can’t not analyse the woman’s behaviour
Its easy to analyze: They lie, cheat, and are only interested in money and attention—they are narcissists who cannot ever be trusted. See it was easy!
The hard question is why a thinking rational man would ever want anything to do with a creature like this?
Anonymous5Being alone has disadvantages, but more and more I’m seeing these disadvantages are far less weighty than those when you’re attached, no matter how ‘good’ your woman is.
Since the red pill, I don’t see one single disadvantage to being alone.
I don’t see a single downside.
My apartment is my own, my money is my own. My place is as I left it when I come back in from work. I do what I want, when I want. No drama, no nagging. No c~~~ spending everything I earn and plunging us both into terminal debt.
No bitch to dial 911 because she’s not happy so you must be destroyed.
There is NO downside.
Your blue pill programming tells you there is a downside.
It’s a LIE.
We’re all different in most categories.
What works for you, doesn’t mean it will work for the next man, and vice versa.
At times, we forget the meaning of the word MGTOW.
Men-Going-Their-Own-Way.
I’m not going your way, and vice versa.
And for the original poster, why do you need love in your life?
Read the manipulated man.
The last relationship I was in, i wouldn’t yield to her bulls~~~. Sure she had plenty of tantrums over it but i the end after I broke it off with her, she said I was the first guy she couldn’t ‘break’.
I read the first 2 lines and stopped.
Yes you are correct bro. Don’t do it.
Peace is > piece.
I’m not sure I can ever be in a relationship again.
Ask YOURSELF, “WHY YOU would want a Relationshipagain ?
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Doing the same s~~~ over and over again don’t make us a genius. It makes us crazy! Especially when there is NO chance of getting a different result. #MANOUT! #ICETHEMOUT!
An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.
I feel like a fool.
You probably should. You know better.
AWALT. It is the truth.
You want a drama free life not worrying about the s~~~ you describe? There is the one sure-fire answer.
You know their nature. You know AWALT holds true. Different triggers and levels and time delays for individuals, but in the end, AWALT. Its just a waiting game for WHEN IT WILL GO TO S~~~.
Why play. Get a good sex doll and find whatever kind of erotica works for you and take care of the urges quickly when they occur, and then get back to your day and kicking ass and taking care of business. Because that is all those are. Just deal with them fast and get back to the tasks at hand. No 911 calls, no drama bulls~~~, no impending s~~~ tests, no unpredictable moods, no one taking what you said in the worse possible context, no betrayal, no game playing. Just stop playing the game. Stop rewarding the female egos by playing the game and being around them this way.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
The problem is that I can’t not analyse the woman’s behaviour. And as her behaviour towards you is ever shifting, you get stuck in a pattern of perceiving, analysing, worrying, then trying to ‘fix’ it by changing your behaviour. You know when you open up and act more caring, you start to move into her friend zone. You can literally observe it in her behaviour. Then you act angry, or aloof, and notice her warming to you again.
The trick is not to give a s~~~ about her but that is stressful and has an impact on you especially in the long run. If you need sex the safest way to get it is to be a complete asshole whether it is a reality (like myself, it is natural for me) or just a mask you are wearing but the most important thing is to be living your personal mission out.
If a c~~~ is getting in the way shove her to the side and continue onward without any attachments or feelings as she is a interference and should be considered as such.
It’s a sickening merry go round from which there is no escape. You’ve got two choices, you ‘game’ her to keep her, even then knowing she’s only with you because of your game, or you say f~~~ living to please a woman.
Often times the way to get sex is the second one and it would be a better result in the end then the first one.
The minute you open up to a woman, the minute you share your feelings and all sorts of s~~~ like that is the minute she loses interest and looks onto the next target to f~~~ (buying flowers for a woman dries her up, the more flowers and the nicer guy you are the drier she gets thereby being more likely to cheat).
If a MGTOW can be with a woman, I think the SMV differential is key. She’s far less likely to s~~~ test you if she’s beneath you.
The problem is that ugly women often have bigger inflated egos then the hotter ones these days and even then it relies on the ego of her as drag down her ego then she will want to f~~~ you regardless of your appearance (you could be hot or buttf~~~ing ugly it won’t matter).
A hot 20 year old will f~~~ you more then a fat whale will.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Anonymous38Great responses fellas. Will respond properly tomorrow, just been to the stupid work Xmas do and now about to bang this broad. Although given how I feel I doubt I will even get it up!
Not the original poster, but I did just read the manipulated man. Thanks for posting it, May.
Amazing insight into evolution on steroids.
And an unavoidable truth.
Just dropped some red pill wisdom on my boss and coworker with it. Our ranks grow every day.We choose not to participate in societal norms because society isn’t normal.
Why vote for a lesser evil? #ICETHEMOUT
Anonymous38Don’t feel like a fool man. Sometimes you need the bulls~~~ to happen before you finally get fed up. If it works out for you great. But keep in mind though there is a HIGH chance she will screw you over. Above all LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. All the best bro.
Thanks bro.
I would love to feel the thrill of a woman in love with me. I want that “wow” feeling when I see a beautiful woman as she walks slowly towards me, wraps her arms around my neck and kisses me.
I was blue pill at the time, but I had that. But now we know that behaviour towards us isn’t because they love us for who we are, but because of what we’re doing for them.
Its easy to analyze: They lie, cheat, and are only interested in money and attention—they are narcissists who cannot ever be trusted. See it was easy!
The hard question is why a thinking rational man would ever want anything to do with a creature like this?
I guess I wasn’t ready to write every single woman off as untrustworthy. This is because I’ve met some women who keep to their word, who in general are ‘trustworthy’, although given their nature I agree it is basically impossible to trust any of them in an absolute sense. As to your question, we have a deep-seated desire for love which many consider irrational, actually if this ‘love’ is merely down to chemicals then it is in fact ‘rational’ that we seek love. One could say it’s irrational to go against one’s nature. I think using the word ‘wise’ instead of rational might be better here.
And for the original poster, why do you need love in your life?
We all desire to be loved. Deny it all you want, but we did before we made the rational choice to go our own way, a choice of self-preservation which does not eliminate the innate need/desire for that which we originally sought. For me, I need something to live for. If I can find an outlet for the passion and love within me that does not involve women, maybe that’s the answer. Like an artist or something.
You know their nature. You know AWALT holds true. Different triggers and levels and time delays for individuals, but in the end, AWALT. Its just a waiting game for WHEN IT WILL GO TO S~~~.
I went in not really caring and thus thought I wouldn’t care during, or when it ended. Turns out I can’t live with peace of mind, even with a near-NAWALT because yeah, AWALT, or perhaps, we can’t stop ourselves simping for someone we care about.
The trick is not to give a s~~~ about her but that is stressful and has an impact on you especially in the long run. If you need sex the safest way to get it is to be a complete asshole whether it is a reality (like myself, it is natural for me) or just a mask you are wearing but the most important thing is to be living your personal mission out.
Living out my personal mission.. indeed anonymousyam. I’m well on my way to that, within 12 months I plan on living out my dream which is to travel across the States.
Once again I feel you man. How can a man be with a woman he starts having feelings for? Feels pointless to meet someone who might bring actual value to your life, only to once again see that treating her like a person with value leads to her starting games and devaluing you. Its healthy to want to be in a relationship with another PERSON, for said person can help me and you grow as people. This process is beneficial to both parties. The female gains a stronger mate as he grows through the relationship and the male has a companionship with someone who actually brings something more than pussy to the table.
Then it backfires. Animal instincts f~~~ us over and the woman cant help but feel a loss of attraction as she perceives her mate as “weak”. She wont bother to understand the dynamic or see the benefits. All she sees is a “weak” man. Thus it leads to the end result you mentioned, man becomes aloof and sees the woman as just another bitch who wont bother to grow up. The woman gets interested again. Its a vicious cycle and I’ve had a similar epiphany as you. F~~~ing is fun and much of the mainstream TRP vouches that becoming Chad Thunderc~~~ is good for a man. For some virgins and incels it probably is. For any man with any experience at all and more blood to devote for brain function than erections, its an exercise in novelty and occasional fun. Pussy is pussy, the packaging changes but the experience stays mostly the same.
In the end, SMV differential helps maintain the LTR. One option is to denounce relationships alltogether and force yourself to maintain distance through rules that guarantee your own well-being. No relationships, the furthest you go is an FWB. A mutually beneficial informal relationship with a real person, who you care about and understand. While keeping in mind that a formal relationship cant exist due to red pill being the unfortunate truth.
Get a sex doll its more real than most women folk.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Anonymous38Once again I feel you man. How can a man be with a woman he starts having feelings for? Feels pointless to meet someone who might bring actual value to your life, only to once again see that treating her like a person with value leads to her starting games and devaluing you. Its healthy to want to be in a relationship with another PERSON, for said person can help me and you grow as people. This process is beneficial to both parties. The female gains a stronger mate as he grows through the relationship and the male has a companionship with someone who actually brings something more than pussy to the table.
Then it backfires. Animal instincts f~~~ us over and the woman cant help but feel a loss of attraction as she perceives her mate as “weak”. She wont bother to understand the dynamic or see the benefits. All she sees is a “weak” man. Thus it leads to the end result you mentioned, man becomes aloof and sees the woman as just another bitch who wont bother to grow up. The woman gets interested again. Its a vicious cycle and I’ve had a similar epiphany as you. F~~~ing is fun and much of the mainstream TRP vouches that becoming Chad Thunderc~~~ is good for a man. For some virgins and incels it probably is. For any man with any experience at all and more blood to devote for brain function than erections, its an exercise in novelty and occasional fun. Pussy is pussy, the packaging changes but the experience stays mostly the same.
In the end, SMV differential helps maintain the LTR. One option is to denounce relationships alltogether and force yourself to maintain distance through rules that guarantee your own well-being. No relationships, the furthest you go is an FWB. A mutually beneficial informal relationship with a real person, who you care about and understand. While keeping in mind that a formal relationship cant exist due to red pill being the unfortunate truth.
Thank you SpaceManFin that was incredibly insightful. I am still looking for the way where I can enjoy a woman’s presence and sex, without being attached. One thing I must do is stop any blue pill thoughts dead in their tracks, battering them down with RP truth. She is just a cumbucket and I must see/treat her as such if I want to get what I need.
The FWB thing could work however. In your experience is it best to clarify this with the woman, or for me to just act that way?
In 2017 you’d have to be a f~~~ing moron to be in a relationship with a woman.
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