I almost threw it all away yesterday

[Anonymous 43]

I almost threw it all away yesterday. I almost put my peaceful life, financial freedom, future freedom and possibly my life in danger yesterday. Sure you did May, you overdramatic idiot.

I had the opportunity to visit my brother for Thanksgiving, had a great time. I also visited fellow mgtow brother Oldschool. I think the world of Oldschool, My best friend. For what ever reason he called me at just the right time. to say he saved my life with that phone call would be an understatement.

Oldschool lives within 20 miles of my ex and my lost children. on my way up to see him, the desire to communicate with my 19 year old daughter popped into my head. I have a court order blocking communication with my younger daughter, but not the older daughter, she is an adult.

My brilliant idea was to give my older daughter a note with my email address. As of this moment my children may contact me, if only they had my new phone number, email and address. I would go to her work place and hand her the note, before my surprised daughter could speak to me, I would leave.

If she had my email, she could communicate with me. my younger daughter could communicate with me, and I could have some sort of relationship with my daughters. I was so close to my child in August, randomly finding her in traffic.

I can hear some of you screaming at me, “May, wtf are you thinking?”

The instinct to offer protection or to be with for one’s offspring is incredibly powerful. I wish I could quantify it somehow. the closest I can approximate is if my daughters required it, I would move all of the Sahara Desert, one bucket at a time until the job was done, or I dropped dead.

I wrote my note on a receipt from the gas station that was the pick up point. the note read here is my email, write to me when you are ready…email address@yahoo.com.

I was feeling good, the good intentions in this one little piece of paper, the nearness of my child and the potential to talk to her was exciting. Got on the highway, and my child was 90 minutes away.

the phone rang as i merged onto the highway, Oldschool wanting an ETA, i told him i might be a little late. I told him I wanted to stop by my daughter’s work place and give her my email address.

He told me to stop and think about what that note could mean. thinking rationally was difficult for me at that moment…I was going to set up a communication link with my daughter, what was there to think about? talking to my kid was a good thing, right?

So i thought more about what would happen if the note was delivered. I have had 18 months of peace since moving away from my kids. I would have thrown all that away…the ex could ask a single question and be triggered into a series of actions that would have destroyed me completely. the question would be what is May 7 2020 doing approaching the girl…isnt he supposed to be 2 states away? how did he get there and the big problem is, older daughter would tell mother and younger daughter about the attempt to communicate. this would violate the no contact ruling for my younger daughter. Now i am in contempt of court and would probably have a bench warrant issued for my arrest and transport to the county adult detention facility.

an email from my daughter could have lured me into an unpleasant situation with my ex. unpleasant has a special meaning in this case.

I am sure those of you with expertise could convert an email to an ip address to a real address.

my love for my daughter blinded me to all adverse possibilities to my best intentions. i can not thank oldschool enough for having a different viewpoint here. had i not previously reached out to him in friendship and trust, i would have given my child the note, left the state and gone home anticipating the first of many emails, trying to make up for lost time. the reality is, my apartment would have been overrun by police looking for me.

had i not told him of my plans, and told him later, he would have told me how badly i screwed up. the disastrous consequences of the best intentions would have lead down a bad path with a final ending.

i was reminded that my pseudonym here means not only the date when financial obligations are may be lifted, but also when the non contact order for a minor child is lifted. i was so focused on the financial aspect of Judge F~~~wit’s ruling, that I completely lost sight of the other equally important component.

How many of you, knowing my situation and the temptation of seeing a long lost child would have attempted to make contact? She is my beloved daughter, only a few miles down the road, so close so close to be able to tell her how proud i was of her. how i wanted her to be able to contact me if she wanted to. so close, just a few minutes in the car, deliver the note and then meet up with oldschool for lunch.

leaving the state 2 1/2 years ago was physically painful, and the lies the ex told my children must have been too much for my kids to endure for them to tell their father to get out of their lives. a chance to get my side of the story, some basic communication the good intentions were such powerful points.

there are several lessons to be learned here.

#1 reach out to fellow MGTOW brothers. use them as sounding boards, use their experiences and objective opinions to avoid f~~~ing up horribly like I almost did.

#2 Patience and maintain frame. things happen for a reason, often unseen consequences will be troublesome. no contact means no contact through direct and indirect means.

#3 admit mistakes and post them as instructional and cautionary tales. my problems are not unique. yep, someone else would be this stupid to do what i almost did.

#4 a blue pill friend would have told me any type of communication channel with my long lost children was better than no communication. blue pill advice like this would get me arrested or killed.

#5 love makes men do stupid things. of course my daughter would tell her mother I tried to contact her at work, and the phone call to the police would be for a stalking or harassing charge.

#6 the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

#7. freely admit absolute idiocy, so that others may learn. my stupidity here knows no limits.

#8 as men we are conditioned to cover up mistakes and move forward with little emotion. that may not best strategy all the time.

Thank you Oldschool for your friendship and your timely phone call. As we discussed later in the day, this simple note would have led to ruination, misery, and doom.

[bladeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

can hear some of you screaming at me, “May, wtf are you thinking?”

The instinct to offer protection for one’s offspring is incredibly powerful. I wish I could quantify it somehow.

Totally get ya bro . My youngest still left in the house of horror .

F~~~ THE SYSTEM ITS A F~~~IN JOKE .

Head f~~~ me system let me show you how i f~~~ , skull f~~~

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[AttonParticipant]

If you want contact with your kids move to Russia and then contact them.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[UntamedParticipant]

I’m 8000 miles away from my children but at least we can call each other, text, send pics, e-mails… I’ve never had a court order forbidding me to see them so I can’t imagine what I would do or feel in your position.
Following the Court order is the sensible thing to do but I cannot express how utterly f~~~ed those kinds of situations are, and they’re ALL created by castrated bastard judges!

They have been taking the fathers out of the Family for over 30yrs now and they pretend to be shocked when a fatherless Man takes his rage and frustration on the general public.
How many holdups, murders, assaults and mass shootings could have been prevented had their father been granted the right to see them?
The inJustice system has been in the business of creating gangsters for a long time and innocents pay for its evils every day.
This systems of things is collapsing under the weight of its own corruption and hypocrisy. The signs are everywhere and I, for one, can’t wait until it’s finally and completely wiped off the earth.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 43]

i think i can legally contact my 19 year old, maybe one time. she wrote me a note telling me off when she was a minor child. i believe contacting the older child leads to contacting the younger. does no contact starting as a minor child reset or continue through adulthood?

even when we were living in the same town, the c~~~ refused us the use of skype, and judge f~~~wit banned us from using it. we sort of cheated a couple times with in game chat with a mporpg and we were caught.

[Anonymous 43]

i just need to stay away from this, i need to put the clamps on tighter and embrace the suck.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

@ May 7: It must be very hard for you to keep your frame. Although I can’t quite relate since I never have been in such a situation you might still want to consider this: next time think about the joy your personal joy being all the more vivid once you reach that special date of yours in 2020 and the way we can/could all celebrate it with you online or otherwise.

And likewise imagine how all the more special it will (or at least could) be like to again being able to reconnect with both of your daughters past that date and then also being able to explain everything to them in full…

Anyway good thing oldschool held you back in time, as you appear to have just dodged a major bullet.

Well done, man.

Full respect.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[MonkParticipant 17050]

That was very, very fortunate. Well done Oldschool and thanks to May 7 for posting this.

[Branched offParticipant 10983]

What a crazy world we live in today when we must praise a man for not contacting his children.

He did well and wisely and it must have been very hard to have held back from such a natural and healthy impulse. It took a lot of that male virtue of self control.

But all I can think is “poor guy to have ever been driven by bad luck and a screwed system to such a hard place”.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Having been there myself. When my ex left my son got lonesome for her and so eventually moved to live near her. He fought with me although I didn’t care if he moved. I wanted him to be happy.

So, for two years after he left I would not contact him. He had to contact me first.

As this never happened two years later I contacted him and it’s like nothing ever happened. He called me on Thanksgiving…he’s 20…so that’s a big improvement.

The key is to walk away.

Don’t ever give a woman your child. As you can read here, you will bleed everyday when you give a woman your child. It is a gun against your head. Don’t ever give a woman your child. Children belong to women in our society. Don’t give women your children.

Men do not need children to be complete, we are conditioned by society.

We have the capacity to love others, our Achilles Heal.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[SwimcatParticipant 3599]

May 7, as a father myself I understand and deeply sympathize with your emotions. Now that I’m alone I’m damn glad I’ve got my three children and have a great relationship with all of them. It seems to me you’re trying to hold onto to what was lost. Cheers to Old School for helping you through this.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Judge F~~~wit’s

Judge F~~~wit has his own trial dated set in heavenly stone on judgment day when he’s delivered to the the master he serves and made to pay for the atrocities he’s done here on earth. He’s really f~~~ed! Judge not, least ye be judged.

Anonymous wrote:

#1 reach out to fellow MGTOW brothers. use them as sounding boards, use their experiences and objective opinions to avoid f~~~ing up horribly like I almost did.

That’s why I made a post about forgiveness and was answered with much conformation on my own opinion about forgiving the atrocities done to me directly and indirectly.

Anonymous wrote:

#2 Patience and maintain frame. things happen for a reason, often unseen consequences will be troublesome. no contact means no contact through direct and indirect means.

I’m under lawful orders to CEASE AND DESIST from assembling, voting, and accessing my home, property, and tangible goods. I closed this place as so ordered from the inside and went home with no place else to go. I was made a criminal in my home and person. Just another Judge F~~~witt’s atrocious reprobate decree. Hell will be full of Politicians, judges, lawyers, and legislators for the atrocities they have delivered us.

Anonymous wrote:

#4 a blue pill friend would have told me any type of communication channel with my long lost children was better than no communication. blue pill advice like this would get me arrested or killed.

Blue pill officials from the same body politic that have me under CEASE AND DESIST demand I cooperate and pay their tax demands while under the threat of fines and imprisonment if I fail to CEASE AND DESIST as so ordered. A man cannot serve two masters and keep his sanity. I have not been relieved of their reprobate order nor the Judges reprobate decree, they need me to cooperate in their conspiracy so they have a fall guy to point to when this place takes takes human life and they need someone to blame. Conundrum beyond all common sense is all the law represents thanks to Judge F~~~witt and his reprobate decree dredged from the bowels of hell itself.

You’re not alone May, you’re not alone.

Anonymous wrote:

#6 the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Good intentions are stifles with laws that lead to hell and nowhere else, the society we now dwell in!

You did right by destroying your family as so ordered my reprobate Judge F~~~wit! May is soul burn in hell for all eternity so justice May be finally and forever served.

Judge F~~~witt costed me everything but my soul he cannot have. If everyone obeys this molested legal system the relief of utter collapse will come that much sooner!

MGTOW obey the laws of Judge F~~~wit, the Legislature, the executive, and hand the lawyers all the mess. The collapse is coming like a speeding bullet that’s already left the chamber on it’s way to the mark.

We live in the end times where nothing makes natural or common sense. The children of this society have a hell of a price to pay for the inequity of so many in power they abuse.

[Anonymous 0]

Atton wrote:

If you want contact with your kids move to Russia and then contact them.

OR just make it look like you have moved to Russia.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

+1 for May.
+2 for Oldschool.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

May 7, 2020-

I’m sorry you are going through this.

I’m glad you didn’t initiate contact.

If I were in this situation, I would probably consult an attorney and review options. Maybe the attorney could send a letter on your behalf.
You definately don’t want to violate a court order. Good luck and be careful.

[TwistParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Don’t ever give a woman your child. As you can read here, you will bleed everyday when you give a woman your child. It is a gun against your head. Don’t ever give a woman your child. Children belong to women in our society. Don’t give women your children.

They are never your children. Well said.

May – they will be able to find you when they are ready, assuming you have not gone deep ghost. I know I have the same address, the same phone numbers, the same email. Mine can find me when they are ready.

Stepping foot into her place of employ would have exposed you to a world of hurt.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

#6 the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You missed a bullet on this one. Oldschool saved your ass. I know why you felt the need to contact her, but patience is a virtue. 2020 is not that far off.

[Anonymous 54]

Your a good Dad.

As your name suggests, you must continue to bide your time.

No kids.

What an awful thing to have to go through.I cant imagine.

You will reap your rewards.

In time…

[I_see_broken_clocksParticipant 258]

Your strength is ridiculous. And although most women will disagree, what you do means more than what you say. You did the right thing, I have no children, but I couldn’t imagine someone keeping them from me. Your strength is a great example for the rest of use. I understand you faltered, but you didn’t go through with it, because of a buddy who was looking out. I feel like women don’t understand friendships like yours and Oldschool. Men have the capability of feeling compassion for each other. Women don’t even know the definition of the word.

Good job bro, you did the right thing, not the right thing right now.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

WOW brother you dodged a BIG bullet thank God Oldschool was there, and could put you in check! WHEW that was close.

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