Hypergamous women like to play the "victim" role.

[Anonymous 3]

Anonymous wrote:

I see a different pattern here my MGTOW brother, you were the shady punkass who was banging the s~~~ out of her, I was the good guy bluepilled. And to be honest I am still that, but in a different way, not with strangers who behave badly, no more gender differences, women are like men now to me(enjoy equality, I do enjoy that). The only difference is that I noticed how I changed when facing women, my inner animal wants to f~~~ ’em and nothing more. In the past I pushed my good guy “attitude” to the extreme of letting them fool me and use me and I too REGRET THAT.

It does not matter what role we had, I will not say that you were wrong or I was wrong, we did different mistakes, but still mistakes, and the matter of who is right and who is wrong here is pointless. The only good thing is to know that both me and you came to the same conclusions, and that we now live our lives not using our time/energies/money for them.

My gut feeling just didn’t sit well with everything that went down. It’s simply such a shady area, best to avoid altogether.

I don’t know what was right or wrong. I really don’t. I still don’t.

Reason I say that, I remember, feeling guilty about the gaming. I guess I was good at playing the douchebag, but deep down, I never could get rid of my conscience entirely.

With that girl I mentioned in particular, she was your good girl next door type. She was with a guy for like 8 years prior to being with me. She told me she felt something was always missing with him. They were engaged and were going to get married but she still thought something was missing so it went dud. The guy was your cookie cutter good guy, had his stuff together, your responsible husband type, her family loved him.

Within just 2 months of being with me, she had already told me she loved me so much, much more than she did any other guy, how they were together for 8 years but never felt anything like this blah blah. I didn’t pat myself on the back. I didn’t think I was the s~~~. The only thing that popped up in my mind was “So you held on to the guy for 8 years, knowing you never truly liked him. How can you do that to him?”

And I was ruthless, f~~~ing with her emotions, that little speech about her ex then quickly changed to “I don’t love him anymore, I don’t care about him at all, and if I did ever love him it was nothing compared to how I love you now. Please call me back.”

That’s how much a good guy is worth. You can be the one who is most responsible, most loving, most considerate, most compassionate, most accommodating, most romantic, doing everything you have in your power to win her over and keep her, until THAT F~~~ING GUY comes along, gets her pussy wet and she runs off with him, tells you she has fallen out of love, or that something is missing, throws you under the damn bus, but can we still be friends? Then when that guy tells her off, she comes crying in your hands, whining about how dude was an asshole but she still loves him.

It’s stuff like that that removed part of the guilt for me. I wouldn’t go as far as to say she deserved it or had it coming, and part of me will always feel guilt for carrying myself that way. I just feel that I was lowering myself to get involved in the matters that were clearly beneath me, and I was totally wrong in that sense. And crocodile tears or not, I just don’t like seeing another human being crying their eyes out in front of me.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Gargamel wrote:

no pussy and that’s why I still look young at age 49.

My mileage, or lack of, produced the same effect for me as well. As for the rest of your post regarding the hotties in High School, I know what you mean.

I am 48 & people are always floored when I tell them my age.

Anonymous wrote:

Always remember, assholes get laid, good guys are practically f~~~ed.

Story of my life in one sentence brother.^^^

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s how much a good guy is worth. You can be the one who is most responsible, most loving, most considerate, most compassionate, most accommodating, most romantic, doing everything you have in your power to win her over and keep her, until THAT F~~~ING GUY comes along, gets her pussy wet and she runs off with him, tells you she has fallen out of love, or that something is missing, throws you under the damn bus, but can we still be friends? Then when that guy tells her off, she comes crying in your hands, whining about how dude was an asshole but she still loves him.

It’s stuff like that that removed part of the guilt for me. I wouldn’t go as far as to say she deserved it or had it coming, and part of me will always feel guilt for carrying myself that way. I just feel that I was lowering myself to get involved in the matters that were clearly beneath me, and I was totally wrong in that sense. And crocodile tears or not, I just don’t like seeing another human being crying their eyes out in front of me.

They are biologically programmed like that.

That’s why you shouldn’t invest any resources in them at all or get into long term engagements with women. Because it only takes some low level poor f~~~ to get her pussy wet and then your whole life explodes: Alimony, child support, Loss of property… as well as loss of your children and reputation.

Now matter how good you are or what you have to offer: She will cut you down like timber.

AWALT.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Gargamel wrote:

No teacher ever told girls that they have to work on their social skills not to end up as cold hearted cat ladies. And we boys began to see them – the teachers and the girls – as “the other side”.

When I think back to girls in my past I asked out and got shot down by, or that I’ve dated…its just a lot of bullets dodged…I wouldn’t give a single one of them a second of my attention even if they started sexting me pussy shots begging me to come f~~~ them no strings attached. Most of them are now f~~~ed up single moms, and a lot of them have put a gross amount of weight on. Most of them were even too stupid to dupe a guy into marriage and divorce rape him, they just got knocked up by some loser lol. The ones that aren’t f~~~ed up single moms are now all late 20s/early 30s and are suffering heavily from the side effects of baby rabies, and considering I’m not falling for any traps I’d rather just avoid women in this age bracket altogether.

There was one girl I dated briefly in college who had baby rabies already at 22 who as far as I know is still married and had a few kids…but she was way too into tanning and looks like a shriveled leathery raisin in her 30s…like last time I ran into I’d literally guess she was 50+ if I didn’t know her, it was absolutely disgusting. Kinda sad when it seems like the only one with a stable life looks like a f~~~ing 30 something year old grandmother.

The old blue pill me wants to feel somewhat bad for them. Like the girl I had a crush on my freshmen year who at least politely turned me down but friend zoned me none the less so she could go off to get tossed around by half the seniors on the football team. She’s still cute as hell, but she’s a broke, depressed single mom still living with her parents at 32. That beaten down blue pill voice inside of me thinks what a waste…her life could have turned out so much better if she was with me…but that dominating red pill voice…it just says I hope the carousel ride was worth it. Bed. Made. Lie.

I’m sure as hell not going to pick up a mess somebody else made at this point. Women love saying “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” Well honey, your best is already in your past and I already missed that…I’ve no reason to bother with you at your worst.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Beer wrote:

I’m sure as hell not going to pick up a mess somebody else made at this point. Women love saying “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” Well honey, your best is already in your past and I already missed that…I’ve no reason to bother with you at your worst.

You win the internet today, in my book…

Damn Straight!!!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Beer wrote:

She’s still cute as hell, but she’s a broke, depressed single mom still living with her parents at 32. That beaten down blue pill voice inside of me thinks what a waste…her life could have turned out so much better if she was with me…but that dominating red pill voice…it just says I hope the carousel ride was worth it. Bed. Made. Lie.

I have seen this too many times to have any feelings of guilt towards them. I get bored when they want to tell me their “Chad” stories and await consolation. Just get away and leave the trainwrecks alone. These women didn’t have the right positive mindset in the first place and they would have taken me down to Chad level or carelessly exploited the hell out of me anyway.

They got what they deserved. They voted for Chad and that’s the life they got. There is nothing “smart” about women. That is what happens when you follow your sexual “ape” impulses… Or when women follow their ‘gina tingles. And this will never change.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 3]

Gargamel wrote:

They are biologically programmed like that.

That’s why you shouldn’t invest any resources in them at all or get into long term engagements with women. Because it only takes some low level poor f~~~ to get her pussy wet and then your whole life explodes: Alimony, child support, Loss of property… as well as loss of your children and reputation.

Now matter how good you are or what you have to offer: She will cut you down like timber.

AWALT.

Indeed, it’s a no win situation. If you play the game, either you turn yourself into that low life she is attracted to, or you end up having her cheat on you with somebody else who plays that low life role somewhere down the road, and worse yet, taking away your children and destroying your life completely.

And I was a good guy, used to be. To the point where one time, my girlfriend at the time f~~~s her loser scumbag ex because he happened to come by, then comes and tells me about it, basically tells me that it happened, she won’t apologize because it was done with respect, so deal with it. Stuff like that push you over the edge, man.

I never forget. When this other girlfriend told me about her ex of 8 years, I see a lot of myself in him. I was him. I was the good boyfriend who gave the girl a shoulder to lean on, after she f~~~ed the piece of trash Chad who told her off. I was the guy who always did “the right thing”. I was the guy who persisted to romance her even though she had an easy fling with her Chad friend during her vacation to her home country.

The only way to win is to not play at all. Keep your humanity, don’t sell your soul.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

The only way to win is to not play at all. Keep your humanity, don’t sell your soul.

Yeah…soon as you take the red pill and see the game for what it is, and decide to not play anymore, its a huge relief in life. I don’t know why I’d want to hop back on the horse and give it another try when I could hop on a motorcycle and go my own way instead.

Lot’s of people don’t get it though. Its just like I’m f~~~ing done, I’ve checked out, I’m not coming back…and then they say “Oh you just haven’t met the right one yet!” Well your f~~~ing well right, have you any idea how f~~~ed up and toxic women my age are? Maybe I’ll meet a few that are fun in small doses or alright to hang around as friends, but at this stage in the game after 10-15 years of riding the carousel most of them are just used up whores with a mountain of baggage, and even if they aren’t I’ve seen how our family courts work. I’m not willing to stick my nuts in a blender and my neck in a noose just to spend my whole life hoping she doesn’t press the on button or kick the stool out knowing I’m powerless to stop her if she does.

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

The only way to win is to not play at all. Keep your humanity, don’t sell your soul.

This pretty much sums up the higher levels of MGTOW, I think that I aim to 5+, but I still need time to accomplish some other goals in my life before becoming a complete ghost.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Anonymous wrote:

Always remember, assholes get laid, good guys are practically f~~~ed.

Math- well said.

As far as women go, nice guys finish last.

Also, don’t believe anything a woman says to you.
She may tell you a half truth. She may just flat out lie. Rarely she may tell you something that is actually true, but she is always manipulating you to a certain course of action.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Anonymous wrote:

either you turn yourself into that low life she is attracted to

Never worth to change yourself just for pussy. No matter if the change is good or bad, pussy isn’t worth it.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

I never understood why girls stuck to dating dumb guys who treat them like s~~~ (and some even beat them up!) until I swallowed the red pill

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

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