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[BrassMonkeyFighterParticipant 0]

Hey guys, I stumbled on this site not too long ago, but I like what I read on here and decided to join. Don’t really know where to begin…well I start with where I’m at now…I’m in my mid/late 30s, married and have two very beautiful kids. Before that I worked in a very aggressive and demanding career that required an Alpha mentality. In that sense I had to be fearless, contentious and at times a little crazy. That attitude even poured into my personal life and how I dealt with people and especially women. In fact I met my wife with that very attitude and we hit it off. First I gotta say, I’m actually happily married. When we got married, unlike other women my wife didn’t want to waste money on a fancy wedding so we just did the courthouse and saved. My wife got pregnant and we had our first child. She wanted to go back to school because while my job was very lucrative, it’s very stressful and physically demanding and she wanted to make sure we had some  financial security if I ever stopped working. Anyways, she goes back to school and finishes earning her degree. In the meantime she gets pregnant again.

After she gives birth to our second child, I’m stressing out a bit more because work has really tapered off and I have another mouth to feed. We decide that I work a little less and my wife finds a PT job. To make a long story short, she not only finds a PT job, but one PT and a FT job! So with two jobs under her belt and my work slowing down, I now work PT or whenever I feel like it and get to spend most the time and fun with the kids. Even at night if the baby cries, my wife who still has to work the next day will let me sleep while she attends to the baby. When we first started dating she would always insist on paying for meals or at least the tip and from the beginning it was more about good companionship as opposed to me treating her like a queen. On top of that, my wife thinks fat women are lazy and unmotivated (she was once fat and vows never again), has no interest in feminism and actually preferred me when I was a bit fatter after I started working out and lost weight. In fact on the rare moment we watch a romantic comedy she’ll be the first to comment on why these movies promote adultery, constant wine drinking, promiscuity and worst of all selfish female behavior with women having to do things for themselves type BS. Also she doesn’t care if I look at other women, go to the bar or play video games. In fact she encourages me to have fun and ask if I need drinking money and even jokes I should flirt a bit to get free drinks from other women.

Anyways, I almost feel like a king lion being overly pampered by his lioness. Though I don’t want to complain too much because my brother is in the exact opposite situation where he’s worked like a dog, his wife doesn’t work plus constantly drinks and his whole family life is falling apart. His wife is down his back 24/7 and he always brings up divorce, but it never happens. In contrast, my wife would rather spend the money she earns on the kids or me, drinks only on occasion and wants me to stay relaxed and stress free. She’s also very petite, has a rocking body and the sex is awesome. In terms of looks, I still check out my wife when she walks out the door because she looks that good.

Though like any hunting animal, there are times when I want to sharpen my claws in both work and life. I’ve always been known as the aggressive type both mentally and physically. Part of me doesn’t want to lose the “edge” especially when I’ve become a little comfortable. Once in awhile the lion of the family has to bring home the big game and go on the hunt. Anyways, I don’t know if any of this makes sense but I’ll throw that out there for those to decipher. Thanks for hearing me out!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Brass Monkey.

Interesting use of the term “happily married”. According to CNN and testimony from Oprah magazine, women everywhere will ALSO say they are happily married… while publishing a mile-long list of diatribes about their husbands — whom they publicly resent the s~~~ out of:

http://mgtow.link/tien

They have a term for it. It’s called a “mid wife crisis”. Behind your back – they refer to this as “a period of high irritation lasting one or two decades” which is 3 times longer than your average marriage.

While one might think this just a one-off, if you google the term “happily married” ….. you will notice, of all the internet discussions on being “happily married”… that article comes up in the second page of all results. If there is a such a thing as being “happily married” one would think any discussion about “DIVORCE” in the same sentence would be at the END of the list instead of the beginning.

13,200,000 results on being “happily married” and in the top 20 results, women can’t wait to NOT be married, because QUOTE: “it tugs on their sleeves each and every day”.

Thats’ 20th spot out of 13,200,000 possibles. This being “Men Going Their Own Way”…. you must allow anyone here to treat use of the term “happily married” with a healthy amount of skepticism. Many men approach marriage with intent to be happy. Including Ellen Tien’s husband who still greets her ungrateful aging ass with a SMILE in the morning – which she hates.

It seems HE is “happy” enough, but is he REALLY?

His wife is MISERABLE.

Would he still be “happy” if he read what his wife really thought of him?

The book “the Manipulated Man” talks about how too many men are too quick to enslave themselves by their own hand. Even a prisoner who is released after serving a 20-year sentence will be “happy” to commit a crime just to return to prison again — and put on the shackles himself. A newly divorced man will too quickly begin searching for a new wife. The Frog Soup analogy refers to men who BELIEVE they are “happy” but don’t realize they are in hot water until after they are turned into frog soup.

I’m not trying to shatter your illusions. Im not even trying to get you to question your reality, or imply that you are NOT happily married. But I AM obligated – for the benefit of other readers – to point all of this out. You did start by saying you liked what you read here (and thanks for joining!) but the reason may be because we DON’T have any illusions.

Many man are naturally drawn to the Manosphere because the truth is addictive.
Just be careful you don’t overdose on red pills! It can be tough to swallow for the “happily married” man.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jambearParticipant 282]

I have been debating all morning whether to write this or not but fudge it. If I am wrong I will apologize and ask for forgiveness.

I do not think this is a real person. I think this is an intelligently constructed trap from a someone looking to gauge our reaction to a potential bearer of a golden NAWALT. They either want to see how we will react or are hoping we will react in a certain manner, my guess is flaming this person because of  some non-existent latent jealousy.

Hey guys, I stumbled on this site not too long ago, but I like what I read on here and decided to join.

A happily married person would never agree with anything written on this site. They would imagine us all as butt hurt men lashing out at woman who rejected us.

This just seems to be written by someone who has read MGTOW philosophy and crafted this mans life in a sort of “Truman Show” fashion. One of perfection and contention.

Like I said this could be my own paranoia but I just can not shake this feeling, that this is a fake posting in order to gauge our reactions.

If it turns out I am wrong I am sorry Brassmonkeyfighter, and welcome.

[Rock St.EddieParticipant 129]

May be a real person, only not living in reality. But you have to laugh at Keymaster’s classy response. He’s saying f~~~ you, without saying f~~~ you.

+10 thumbs up.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

It sounds like you have found the never-before-seen NAWALT. You’ll have to excuse our disbelief since we havent proved Bigfoot exists either.
Honestly, if this is real then wtf are you doing here? Your decisions are joint, you’re apparently happy with your wife and while thats wonderful, its dubious that this is real.
Or it is and you’re here because you like the IDEA of going your own way but simply flirt with the mentality rather than take it onboard.
OR that you’re happy and the rest of us here are simply waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was happy with my ex for years before things changed. Ignorance is/was bliss.

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[BrassMonkeyFighterParticipant 0]

Sorry for the late reply, but I am real and yeah my life is real! The reason I’m here is that for the most part prior to my married life, I came off from back-to-back unhealthy relationships with women whom I’d consider damaged goods. Either they were unfaithful tramps or they were looking for their “White Knight” to sweep them off to fairytale land. I said f~~~ that and spent several years partying, binging and focusing on making lots of money. All my friends were either in s~~~ty marriages or divorced with crazy ex-wives. Not to mention my brother was also in a s~~~ty marriage (and still is), so I was surrounded by lots of “quality” guidance on what to avoid. I saw how the men around me were just living day-by-day, but one common theme that stuck was seeing just how all my friends agreed (despite being in crappy relationships) being a Dad was the best part of it all.  Since these guys were my drinking buddies, when s~~~ got real this is what they’d talk about…being a Father. Going into my 30s, it struck me I wanted kids even though all throughout my 20s I had no desire to have them. I figured why should I let the brainwashed masses breed sheep, I might as well have my own kids and make them into wolves.

So I started thinking, if I’m going to have kids I’m going to find a woman on my own terms. I carefully crafted a list of the type of woman I wanted to be with down to the body type, age, height, weight, race, education, employment, upbringing and personality traits. The age part was also important because after dating both younger and older women, I came to the conclusion any woman over 27 and still single was beyond saving and any woman too young, would be fun but too dumb. I actively pursued women who fit my criteria. On top of that I also had a plan…I was going in with the strategy to craft my woman. When I met my present wife, she wasn’t near the woman she is today. I actually played up and encouraged her strengths and I either discouraged and/or downplayed her weaknesses be it in her mentality or personality. It also helped that she didn’t grow up in America, but arrived in her teen years from an ex-Soviet Communist country. I wouldn’t say women nowadays are better from those countries, but it sure helped in that her mentality wasn’t fully polluted by western feminism and because she came young enough she wasn’t a complete foreigner. I also had no desire to find a woman abroad either because guys I knew who did that, still ended up divorced, paying alimony and child support so f~~~ that.

My wife and I just had a date night for my birthday over the weekend and I can still concur that we are still in a very healthy and happy relationship. Feelings are the same if not better from when we got married. My wife actually looks better from when we met even after having two of my children. We still have great conversation and passionately kiss like when we were first dating. It really helps my wife looks great. Even if I watched porn I’d compare my wife and still think she holds her own.

On top of that, I brought my older child to the zoo the other day and I was blown away at the low quality of wives and mothers I saw. Lots of women who let themselves go or the gold digger types who wear their children like fashion accessories as opposed to actually caring for their children. I saw men who looked to be strong alphas, healthy and in good shape, but were attached to women that were overweight and didn’t even dress to look nice, while their husbands could easily get a woman several notches better, but were now stuck with what they had.

Anyways, I didn’t go into my marriage blindly and I already had prior knowledge and experience from bad experiences from my friends. Hell even on the day of my wedding, my good friend asked if I was sure I wanted to get married and even cited his own failed marriage as a warning! I heeded the advice of my late Father who taught me some key lessons. A few of which are: Always end on a good note, negativity is not productive. Be selective of whom you put your seed into, the quality of the family legacy depends on it. Always have a strategy, a man should always have a plan on how they approach life, be it in work, play and relationships. On top of that, I also believe as a man it’s within our nature to build and to mold things into our vision and women are no exception.

I just wanted to share my experiences and support the guys on here. I believe in taking control of the situation before the situation takes control of you. Thanks for listening!

[McQueenParticipant 77]

My cousin is “happily” married. His sibs are too. When I see them, I tell myself I would rather be dead than “happily married”.

“Honey? Can you turn the air conditioning up it’s really hot. Roll the window up? I’m too cold. Should I take my sweater? I don’t know if I should take my sweater. Do you think I should take my sweater? I don’t really want to carry it with me all day, but then again the evenings can get really chilly and this time of year I don’t want to catch cold. Besides this sweater is really itchy and I’m wearing a sleeveless dress. Maybe I should just leave it in the car and if I need it later we can come back and get it. On second thought what if it rains. Oh my god I forgot the umbrella I heard on the news we are supposed to get rain today.”

If I am ever happily married, I want a MGTOW to drag me into the woods and shoot me painless in the back of the head.

Thank you very much.

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