How to turn a blue-pill force-fed adolescent into a man?

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Yes, I have been divorced. About a year ago it was all final. I hadn’t seen my boy in 4 years. 3 weeks ago the ex-wife passed away. And booom! I’m a single dad now. When I left, apparently the Ex turned my boy into a full white knight mangina thingie, in order to replace me. A 14yr old to take the job of a man in his 40s.
She undermined any self-esteem in him, made him afraid of challenges, while simultaneously turning him into a housemaid.
I wanted to be a dad, but rarely had the chance to be one. Viciously she tried to alienate him from me and now? How do I build up a relation to him? He needs some red-pill but I doubt I can find a dosis small enough for him to cope with, while still being effective.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[GeraldParticipant 3640]

My suggestion is to be yourself. Kids learn by watching and emulating. After a while you can start opening discussions about it. Telling him the joy of being self reliant, not needing affirmation or anything from a woman… the lessons will sink in.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[iMickey503Participant 12468]

I suggest he gets into gaming. It should teach him a thing or two. There are also surprising number of kids that have MGTOW like channels.

But as for you, just do what you do best. Work, and enjoy life. He will find his way.
Also, he just lost his mom. He might be pretty messed up after that still.

Just be you bro. Men learn from example. And when they see something works? It just fits.

Good luck brother.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Muglintar wrote:

When I left, apparently the Ex turned my boy into a full white knight mangina thingie, in order to replace me. A 14yr old to take the job of a man in his 40s.

That’s predictable.

After met father died, my Mom was looking at me to be the new family utility. It got so bad… on night while she was serving dinner, I offered to get up from the table and get the potholders from the kitchen which she forgot. She said (and I’m not kidding) “Keymaster…. SIT DOWN and BE QUIET”. It was an “order”. In the same tone that she spoke to my father from time to time.

So infront of the rest of the family present, I gave it to her – nice and calm:

“I’m not your husband. I don’t HAVE to listen to you.”

I got up from the table.
Handed her the potholders and said “my pleasure”.

Notice: I did the OPPOSITE of what she wanted and expected.

This set her off in such a frenzy of internal rage, I couldn’t stop smiling for the rest of the meal. And I have not been back for a visit since. Yes, really. Recently, I told her WHY.

When an adversary wants (and expects) you to do something… do the OPPOSITE.

Muglintar wrote:

. Viciously she tried to alienate him from me and now? How do I build up a relation to him?

You probably already have!
That’s the beauty of it.

You go on with him as if she doesn’t exist. Talk to him normally. “Be cool”. Refuse to be sucked into her frame of drama etc… and don’t be afraid to say it out loud.

A red-pilled man is an enormous threat to feminist/feminine power and control. It falls at his feet – and they know it.

Remember…..

There is a very clear difference between the way men and women understand “force”.Men use fists, bombs, guns and knives to naturalize a threat. Women use social manipulation, backstabbing, emotional terrorism and ostracizing from a group. Because thats’ what hurts them more. ( Being totally ignored etc. )

Thats’ her game.
Get better at it than she is.

I have been on the receiving end of this attempt at alienation, and it doesn’t work when handled properly. You carry on as if you want no part of that silly childish dynasty-styled drama women love. When it has no effect on you, they HATE it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Muglintar wrote:

How do I build up a relation to him? He needs some red-pill but I doubt I can find a dosis small enough for him to cope with, while still being effective.

Make HIM want to build a relationship with YOU. All you need to do is be a good dad. Tell a good joke. Be fun to be around. Speak with him directly and honestly – just like a man.

She won’t do that. She’ll treat him like a child every chance she gets. Until he’s in his 40s and beyond.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Don’t try to red-pill him. Just demonstrate that you are a strong, capable, self-sufficient man and he will learn by your example. Demonstrate the authority and responsibility dynamic. Spend time with the sunspot. I promise he’s starved for male attention and just completely lost.

Do things with him where he can learn and develop excellence. Set easy challenges for him to build confidence from. Find a sport for him (don’t make it an option–find something reasonably popular). Get him outside and the sun and physical exertion will slowly compound.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[bstoffParticipant 4884]

Congratulations on getting your son back.
It’s a rare opportunity most men don’t get.

Be a good role model by being yourself.

No matter what he says or does, do not put his mother on a pedestal.
She doesn’t deserve it.

There’s no need to trash-talk her unnecessarily, but you don’t have to pretend she was a saint just because he might think she was.

This is your opportunity to show your son that you are not who she told him you were.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

first tell him you love him to much to ever lie to him or guide him the wrong way.
Let him make his own decisions within reasonable safety standards.
give him things to do and two different ways to accomplish the same task.
I would be hoping he finds a third or fourth choice better
than the two provided.
teach him the difference between an education and an indoctrination.
tell him everyone will be trying to tell him what to think
but those who care about him will teach “HOW” not “WHAT” to think.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Give your kid the advice my dad gave me when I was 8 or 9 .

“Son, you’re a young man. That means nobody else gives a s~~~ about you. take care of yourself, because nobody else will. “

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Thanks brothers! Thanks for taking the time to read, think about it and giving me your advise. I really appreciate it.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

Give your kid the advice my dad gave me when I was 8 or 9 .
“Son, you’re a young man. That means nobody else gives a s~~~ about you. take care of yourself, because nobody else will. “

I wouldn’t use this until he knows his son has a strong stable relationship with him. Maybe in a year or two. Six months if he’s lucky. Otherwise the message you are sending since his mom just died is “I dont want you”.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

He became a white knight to ensure his mother’s approval. You’ll have to flip the script slowly otherwise it’s a threat to the identity he’s already formed. Kids learn by copying when younger than his current age. You aren’t at a good place cause at 14 he’s old enough to recognize the conflicting beliefs but doesn’t have the frontal lobes yet to really get it. So go very slow. Shift his white knight hero complex slowly away from serving women to serving society and himself. Use this as an intermediate stage. While reframing chivalry as manly, use it to build up physical activity. Outdoors. Mechanics. Labor. Crafting. Science. Whatever. And video games to develop healthy aggression and competitiveness. Say women like those and they make you attractive. Which is true. But the intent you will shift over time. As he comes around, shift his views on women slowly to let him know they are like flowers. Beautiful to look at but relatively useless and can become a stinking mess rapidly. Encourage female contact. You won’t overcome the hormones cause he’s now looking for a replacement mom strongner than ever. So he will have to likely learn the hard way. Get him active in dating as soon as possible so he can get thru the rejection And guide him that AWALT. Then when he starts to ask about women’s behavior. Slowly introduce the concepts. Don’t try to steer him away. He has to come to that himself. Otherwise you’ll just end up with an angry INCEL and none of us want that. You’re looking at years of work brother. Patients, love, and slow teaching.

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