How to stop giving a f~~~.

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

As a MGTOW, there are many ways to give a f~~~ about the things that p~~~ us off. For example:

– that one white knight trying to saving the day
– we give a f~~~ about some random mangina opinion
– about entitled bitches while we date
– about society trying to f~~~ us over
– some feminist saying “kill all men”

Some of us have been dealing with all this red-pill rage. My remedy is trying not to care, although this doesn’t always work. There are surely techniques available that can help you to care less. Although I haven’t found them all. Are there any books available that help you tune out and put energy into more useful things instead? There must be a way to truly “give less f~~~s” about all that is happening around us that either annoys or infuriates us.

I’d rather laugh about these things one day and stop caring about it. This would add about 10 years to your life because of lower stress levels.

Techniques / books I found useful:

– NLP
– CBT
– Mindfulness
– Meditation

What is your way of not giving a f~~~? How did you attain this mindset. How do you enable it and what maintains this way of dealing.

[QuietlyquietlyParticipant 728]

Meditation has helped me, but mostly to calm the incessant drivel that my mind conjures up on an ongoing basis! I definitely have a quieter mind than I used to. Still some way to go though….

I have found in my own personal experience that I have a strong reaction to things that I have a problem with. What I mean by that is it’s MY problem. I have to figure out why it irritates me so much – for example, I used to get viscerally bunched up in knots in my gut whenever I thought about my (now ex) gf shacking up with some other dude while I was still going out with her. I think this is pretty common for us guys. We give a f~~~ that our gf DOES NOT f~~~ another guy. I noticed this was strong for me. So I analyzed it in my head – why do I give a f~~~ so much, when I never did when I first met her, or before that? It wasn’t logical. And thinking back to old exes, why do I not give a f~~~ about who they are f~~~ing now?? That also isn’t logical. I remember reading something I heard a while back, where a writer was saying, “we don’t care if our partner doesn’t play tennis with us, we just outsource it. And we don’t care if our partner goes shopping with their friends, we don’t get jealous about that. So we allow outsourcing of parts of our lives that our partner can’t or doesn’t want to fulfil. In the same way, why do we get so uptight even thinking about outsourcing our (or their) sexual needs to someone else??”

There isn’t any logic to it.

And so it comes down to giving up our assumed mental ideals around the subject. That in turn causes the uncomfortable feelings that drive us crazy. But it’s the mental s~~~ that cause it. So pick apart your mental constructs (it might mean you feel uncomfortable for a while, but I promise it passes if you allow it to run its course). Give them up, like you’d just give up holding on to an argument with a 3 year old. Just let it go. It’s no big deal. It’s a three year old!

The phrase “Amused Mastery” is a nice one – you’d just look amused if a three year old was pulling your chain about how it was unfair that she couldn’t marry you – try to “look amused” at other problems; a feminist saying “RAAAAPE CULTURE!”, look amused, the poor little three year old. The white knight – you already know better, so just look amused and leave them to it. They don’t have to learn, only you do, and you already have.

TL;DR – treat everyone as if they are 3 years old, and smile, knowingly.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I think I’ve really started to not give a f~~~. Of course, I understand why people get bent out of shape when reading some intentionally inflammatory s~~~ online. The thing is, you can refute and provide facts against anyone out there and have a nice long list of s~~~ that’s wrong with their arguments. Like some of those mgtows out there that spend all day picking feminist s~~~ apart.

I find that not giving a f~~~ comes naturally after you make the same arguments over and over again and only get the same responses. You know you’ve already won the battle, but the war is not over. You smile. It’s one of the facts of life that there will be manginas and feminists and white knights. So why get angry? You’ve beat the odds, you are a mgtow, you’re free.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Anonymous 26]

I’ve been unleashing that rage onto my punching bag till am completely exhausted, sweating and panting for oxygen.

That helps me release my mental anger and physically built up stress… I usually have an awesome night’s sleep.

[HitmanParticipant]

[MemberParticipant 323]

God I hope that video of the dude hitting the chick with the Xmas tree is real.

And not giving a f~~~ has gotten easier somewhat with age but not completely gone. I think its connected to a general numbing of my personality due to years of intense bulls~~~. Most would have self medicated or drunk themselves to death. That or I have had a mild stroke and haven’t noticed yet. Either way things get easier one way or the other.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anger. I feel that anger has been very useful for me. I just think back to the moments where I f~~~ed up by giving too much, sacrificing my own interests, breaking my own rules… and what I received in return for it. That anger I feel at myself for being a fool and getting suckered by my own base nature keeps me sharp and focused on sniffing out bulls~~~, being prepared to speak quickly and honestly when I find it and not giving up anything more than I have to to get what I want out of life.

It can be exceptionally useful.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Hitman wrote:

God dam that’s awesome.

Fuck this planet.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

I think it’s better to aim for acceptance of what we cannot change as opposed to not giving a f~~~. Why?

Because not giving a f~~~ instantly creates inner turmoil and an aversion to these things.

By practicing compassion within the bounds of wisdom we can learn to be more accepting of the things we cannot change and be more at peace with them.

Otherwise you constantly feel despair when you fail in not giving a f~~~.

I previously had suicidal ideations as I felt that I wasn’t making progress with my life. It wasn’t until I acknowledged these thoughts and the related feelings and rather than creating the good/bad battle I just labelled it in my head as ‘thinking’ or ‘sad’ and let it sit there till It went away.

I haven’t experienced these thoughts over the last month or two now, though If they reappear I won’t feel disappointed, I’ll just be with them until they decide to disappear.

I think optimism helps too, especially through re-framing situations.

For example, we can be grateful that we have discovered MGTOW through feminism (for those of us that have), accept that culture changes and that many things make us feel uncomfortable and angry and make a label out of it.

Many of us have been ‘burned’ from former relationships, yet we have also developed wisdom from it. I would rather get burned and develop wisdom than be perpetually cognitively dissonant like many women are. I’ve learned not to touch the stove so to speak, where as they keep touching the stove wondering why the stove is so mean.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[QuietlyquietlyParticipant 728]

@reddawn, this is very succinct, thanks for writing it.

I agree that acceptance is a great tool, and “labelling thoughts as thinking” is brilliant way of reducing the importance of them, and also the following feelings.

I’m Buddhist and this is what we try to do for all thoughts!

Hhhhhmmmm……wise, you are. [said in Yoda voice]

[HimeoParticipant 471]

How to stop giving a f~~~?

Watch this video by Paul Proteus:

[AFTParticipant 2726]

I learnt not to care about those things that I can’t influence.
I save all my remaining f~~~s for myself and my own best interest.
I set my goals and focus on achieving a life I am content with.
F~~~ everyone else’s expectations and agendas. I’m here for me, not for gynocentric society, not for a unicorn and certainly not for feminism.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Walk in your way as full as possible, to the extent that everything not fitting your way is seen as small and trivial.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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