How to stay emotionally detached when the legal ball starts rolling.

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  • #6783
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    Mobyco
    Mobyco
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    My second post,

    so if you read my introduction you know it’s not likely to be a merry Christmas. And I would like to think I can stand my ground when the ball starts rolling, and that’s probably close. So if cupcake comes on with the flirty I still love you crap how would you men deal with your emotions? It’s not easy for men to detach and stay that way especially when the whistle hasn’t been waxed properly for over two years. I don’t know if that scenario will play out. It certantly could. But hearing how other men would deal with that situation would help me and maybe some others someday.  Your thoughts?

    #6786
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    A great question. And I just mentioned earlier, there is a common misconception floating around that MGTOW are “just one blowjob away from not being MGTOW anymore”. It’s complete bulls~~~ for a genuine MGHOW.

    Like if you previously believed the world was flat, and then you personally sailed around it, could you ever think the world was flat again? Even if you did not personally traverse the oceans yourself, there is data, there are satellite images, documentation, testimony, films, globes in every classroom. A man could even look up to the heavens himself and GUESS the world is round because the moon casts shadows exactly like a sphere, the sun is round from all angles all the time. Every planet is round. You can’t go back to believing in Santa again, either. And why would you want to?

    The temporary haze of orgasm is just that. Temporary.

    …. as long as you are aware that her affections (no matter how “genuine” they may be in the moment) are temporary too. You can enjoy the temporary pleasure, but that’s all it is. You could even ask cupcake herself: “if I wasn’t good enough for you BEFORE.. why would I be good enough for you NOW??”

    This is a question no cupcake is expecting. Nor is it one she wants to be asked. Her uncomfortable response should be reason enough for you.

    NEVER forget,a woman’s plan is to infiltrate your life and slowly begin alienating your friends until it’s just you and her. This is the female strategy to slowly – over time – get you to believe she is “the best thing to ever happen to you”. (See? Im still here even when your friends are not) If a man is not careful, he will believe it. And any return she makes (or slightest bit of affection she shows) looks like “the grand gesture”… when it’s anything but. An ex-girlfriend increases her “value” not by actually INCREASING HER VALUE… but my removing all other value from your life until there is very little left. She is counting on the ability to waltz right back into it while assuming you will be there. Don’t give her this satisfaction.

    This is why absolutely zero contact after a break up is so potent, effective and even necessary. By doing NOTHING – and with no effort – you show her that your time, attention, affection and care was not free or to be taken for granted. You pull the rug out from under her. Realize that she left because she thought she could come back. If she knew in advance it would be PERMANENT, she would have not have been so quick to pull the trigger. Keeping as many irons in the fire as she can is her game. Why do you think women collect EX-es like shoes on Facebook? How many pairs of shoes and outfits do women keep which they have no interest in wearing again?

    They do this so that you can be “Justin Case.” If you take her back, that’s your name. “Justin Case”.

    • Just in case she gets fat.
    • Just in case it doesn’t work out with the new guy
    • Just in case she needs a date on national holidays
    • Just in case she needs an emotional tampon

    Never be that guy.

    The holidays (especially) are when women are on the prowl. The day before Thanksgiving to the day after Valentines’ Day is when men would do well to make themselves as scarce as possible.

    One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.
    That’s something you can say to her face. Merry Christmas. My gift to you.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #6787
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    Mobyco
    Mobyco
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    Thanks key master.

    First thing I’m gonna do after I file the paperwork is stop at a little girls house who has been asking me to giver some attention, I haven’t been unfaithful to cupcake yet even after all the s~~~ she’s put me through. But the day I have stamped paperwork all bets are off. Just because I’ve taken the red pill don’t mean I still don’t have those needs.

    1. Get a proper lay. Post cum clarity sake.

    2. Remember all the times I was left high and dry.

    3. Remember I wasn’t important enough then, and still not now.

    4. Remember catching her cheating, ( that seed of hurt has grown into hatred, don’t forget it!)

    5. rinse and repeat !

    #6788
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I forgot to welcome you officially and thank you for joining.

    Your needs are part of the deal. If ONE woman doesn’t meet them, another one WILL.
    Forget about the ones who don’t. And …. Happy New Year.

    Smiles.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #6794
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    Mobyco
    Mobyco
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    39

    Thank me? No seriously . Thanks to this forum and others like it.and thank you. If it wasn’t for this forum and others I probably would still be on the treadmill. Floating, treading water. No man can keep his sanity for ever living that lie. Your cupcake is no different than any other cupcake. 2.0-3.0 3.2-3,2.1 this emotional detachment I’m talking about comes easy for women. They seem to have it hard wired in them, this is why it’s so easy to cheat and live with the lie for them. At least in my own experience. While we bust our assess providing the new car,home, children, and a million pair of shoes they will never ware or as you said have just in case. They do not share the same emotional attachment as men seem to. Oh sure NAWALT, but good luck with that. I’m a born again Leykis 101 DTB! hard as the morning wood that went wasted for years. I only wish I had seen the light and began to prepare my exit sooner.  Where have all the good men gone? Indeed!  Non Serviam, . But for myself, will I act, and preserve.

    #6795
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Yes thank YOU. We are not MGTOW.com. YOU Are.

    YOU are.

    There is cause for celebration today. We had a record number of signups. Guys like YOU are the reason for that and we tip our hats. Really appreciate your introduction and be strong my friend. Perhaps you will give a report as things progress.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #6796
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    TheNinjaUWannaH8
    TheNinjaUWannaH8
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    386

    Brother Mobyco:

    I feel for you and understand your difficulties under the circumstances.

    Key Master is absolutely correct.  DO NOT Fruck your Soon-to-Be EX).  Cupcakes ain’t Shiet.

    If she offers you the Pussy, it’s a Trap that allows your EX to get into your Mind (through your C~~~).  Believe me…It will be used against You in the Court of Divorce Law.  As the ancient rapper Rick Ross once said “F~~~ the Judge and the Prosecutor.”  Don’t’ ask me Y…Just Don’t F~~~ your X.”

    I’ll say it against: “Don’t F~~~ your X.”   F~~~ Nike:  “Just Don’t Do It.”

    The Solution to Clear Up the “I’m So Horny Cobwebs”:  Go F~~~ another Girl.

    Don’t tell the Cobweb-F~~~-Girl your business or cry on her shoulder about your pending divorce war.   Just go over there and tear that thing up, implode your Nuts, release all your tension, and Prepare yourself for Battle.  I call it getting some Battle-Ready Pussy.

    Rinse and Repeat. Do not Dry Clean these Hoes.  Use Cold Water only.  Real Cold.

    #6869
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    Rock St.Eddie
    Rock St.Eddie
    Participant
    129

    A MGHOW’s life only goes in one direction. Forward.

    #7089
    +1
    Mobyco
    Mobyco
    Participant
    39

    Goin trough hell here guys, send me some strength. Cupcake finally seen the writing on the wall last weekend and insisted on couples therapy. Well I gotta have my bases covered so I, yes I made the appointment. I guess if ya have money to burn they get you in quick? What a show of stupid this all is. Wtf  !! The ride to and from was so painful I don’t have words to for it. The pressure at the evening is pretty close to my fault s it can get. The councilor being a white knight sort don’t understand my indifference to the whole show, and lets not kid ourselves its a show, show how rotten and terrible I am.  Sorry I have video that will prove my point beyond what cupcake “feels”. So here’s the delima. I guess it’s a personal one. key master help me. All you guys that have been there guide me! I’m so p~~~ed at the out right attack I’m dealing with I want to burst into a tirade and let all the cats out of the bag, I want to to just say what is really really is. But part of me knows better. I’m doing this because I want to be able to say I’ve done all I could and there is nothing to “fix” as if for a moment I want cupcake or some mangina under my hood “fixing”me! I’m not broken damnit. I don’t need or want fixed!

    HELP ME my brothers help me keep MY light. I don’t need the second guessing! Send me good karma..

    Moby, in dire need of sanity. ,,!!

    #7092
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    Aposematic
    Aposematic
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    2671

    Actually never got into couple counselling, but think of it as “Palliative Care” of  terminally ill relations~~~. If cupcake wants to make it work- it will work…. but are you MGTOW? In essence, listen to yourself- follow your instinct. I remember a similar situation of being set up with a psychiatrist visit- I never went to follow up. Often unless the counsellor has generally proper respect , empathy, validation of your suffering- make tracks pronto!

     

    I caught my wife cheating. I decided that one thing I did not have to endure is jealousy and doubt. Absolute dealbreaker for me. My ex told my parents we could get back together – all I needed to do is have a pay back affair. Two wrongs do not make a right. I am certain that when my children are old enough they will understand the reason for separation. It helps that my ex is such a slut that even her long standing staff resigned when she broke up on of her patients marriages.- so it is just not my judgment but others reaching the conclusion the my ex is a municipal velocipede.

    Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

    #7093
    +1
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    “Couples therapy”? This won’t be what you want to hear… but if you need “couple’s therapy”, you’re with the wrong person.

    I told an ex that to her face.
    If we need to “work” to make it work… either she can get out, or I will get myself out.

    For years, I wondered if I was wrong to have that kind of “black or white” attitude until I heard Tom Leykis speak about having NO COMPROMISE.

    His exact words: “If I hear the words “we need to talk”… IT’S TME. FOR YOU. TO GO.”

    Do you have any idea how satisfying that is? To slowly extend your middle finger into the face of anyone who thinks you need “couple’s therapy”. I can’t even put it into words. There will be no “therapy”. There will be no compromise. If there is something you don’t like about me. GET THE F~~~ OUT.

    MGTOW man.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #7098
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    Deus Ex Machina
    Deus Ex Machina
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    1068

    The “Justin Case” thing, was an awesome analogy!. Never thought about it like that until now.

    "If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

    #7108
    +6
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Can’t take credit. I heard it years ago, and never forgot it. But yeah, we all know women like to keep another guy “waiting in the wings”.

    A siginificant ex-girlfriend I had years ago was busted by me. I came across secret emails to some other guy (who she met online) and confronted her directly. I told her its OK, you want to play, Im out. So I moved out and it was amicable. I didn’t kick up a fuss at the time. Wasn’t too heartbroken. We reconnected in a friendly way and even had lunch with old friends when I was in town visiting. She was much younger so I was prepared for it and well experienced. By this time I knew ALL women are temporary pleasures. It’s only a matter of time.

    Until one day, many years later, she writes to me while NOW MARRIED WITH CHILD and she learns I am in the same city.

    She says “we should have lunch some time,…. I would love to get away from my screaming baby for an afternoon.”. She said it more than once. She did not say “It would be fun to see you”…. or “I would like to have a few laughs”… or “it’s been a while let’s catch up”. She wanted me to entertain her and used “getting away from her screaming baby” as a way of being “cute” about it. She didn’t even have the honesty to say she was bored and needed some adult male company or needed an escape from her life with toddlers.

    ( Do I f~~~ing look like my name is “Justin Case”?????? )

    So I called her out. Finally. “No. You once deceived me with this man. Yet you keep showing resentment about your life choices. Your reason for getting together will not be about getting away from your screaming baby. Be a mother. Be a wife. And stop writing to your ex boyfriend and expecting him to have lunch with you. It’s unacceptable, and if I were your husband, I would not put up with it for one minute.”

    Holy s~~~, she f~~~ing FLIPPED OUT.
    And I loved every second of it.

    Bed. Made. Lie.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #7110
    +3
    Deus Ex Machina
    Deus Ex Machina
    Participant
    1068

    Again, truly an awesome read!.

     

    I’ve seen some of the most worst break ups/divorces end on a bad note, and watching most of the Men either damn near kill himself, or become an alcoholic because of it.  The Women?, bounce back with their “Justin Case” guy like there was no previous history with their ex boyfriend/husband. Every Female I’ve ever known, always had that “He’s just a friend”  in the background.

     

    Countless girls, either from work, relationships i was in, co-workers who were females, relatives of mine, always had that back up.

     

     

    "If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

    #7115
    +2
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Thanks, and yes I should add ….. it FELT awesome too.

    God damn, when I clicked SEND, I felt like a million bucks. AFTER taxes. Too much the gentleman for too many years, always maintaining a very classy attitude about it and with her. Never once was I butthurt about it. But wanting to see me “to get away from your screaming baby?” …. you gotta be f~~~ing kidding me.

    Her reply was “I shall not be speaking to you anymore”.

    Not “will”…… “SHALL”.

    Even when exposed and told to p~~~ off, they CAN NOT admit wrong doing and will maintain the highest over-inflated view of themselves. Like her not speaking to me was some kind of “loss” for me. lol-get-the-f~~~-out-of-my-face-with-that-s~~~. It’s a win for me, honey. Because I never made the mistake of marrying you.

      “I shall not be speaking to you anymore”.

      “If you say so, sweetie.”

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #7161
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    TheNinjaUWannaH8
    TheNinjaUWannaH8
    Participant
    386

    Damn, Key Master. Masterfully executed.

    I had almost the exact situation.  Many years ago during my “Punk-Ass Muthaf~~~a, Wifing the Wrong Hoes” days, the Hoe in my situation (let’s call her “Amy”) married the guy she was cheating on me with, left with him for <span dir=”auto”>Liechtenstein. Who in the Hell Goes and Live in </span><span dir=”auto”><span dir=”auto”>Liechtenstein</span>?
    </span>

    13 years later…I KID YOU NOT…I was walking down a hippie area of Atlanta when I bumped into an older lady who actually introduced me to this Hoe years before.  The Lady told me that “Amy asked me about you. She has three kids now, a set of twins and another kid. Looks just like her.  She’s going through a really bad divorce.  She would really like to here from you.”

    I said to myself “Hell to the Muthaf~~~in’ NO.”

    Well…maybe a week later, I see a Facebook message from “Amy”.  She is telling me that she missed me and was sorry for how things ended between us. She said that she had three kids and wanted to chat about possibly getting back together with me again.

    This Muthaf~~~a Bee-yaah was trippin. I ignored her message.  She wrote me at least 3-4 more times…and after no response from me, She eventually stopped.

    F~~~ Kevin Smith.   I’m NEVA “Chasing Amy.”

    #484632
    Bosk
    Bosk
    Participant
    111

    A great question. And I just mentioned earlier, there is a common misconception floating around that MGTOW are “just one blowjob away from not being MGTOW anymore”. It’s complete bulls~~~ for a genuine MGHOW.

    Like if you previously believed the world was flat, and then you personally sailed around it, could you ever think the world was flat again? Even if you did not personally traverse the oceans yourself, there is data, there are satellite images, documentation, testimony, films, globes in every classroom. A man could even look up to the heavens himself and GUESS the world is round because the moon casts shadows exactly like a sphere, the sun is round from all angles all the time. Every planet is round. You can’t go back to believing in Santa again, either. And why would you want to?

    The temporary haze of orgasm is just that. Temporary.

    …. as long as you are aware that her affections (no matter how “genuine” they may be in the moment) are temporary too. You can enjoy the temporary pleasure, but that’s all it is. You could even ask cupcake herself: “if I wasn’t good enough for you BEFORE.. why would I be good enough for you NOW??”

    This is a question no cupcake is expecting. Nor is it one she wants to be asked. Her uncomfortable response should be reason enough for you.

    NEVER forget,a woman’s plan is to infiltrate your life and slowly begin alienating your friends until it’s just you and her. This is the female strategy to slowly – over time – get you to believe she is “the best thing to ever happen to you”. (See? Im still here even when your friends are not) If a man is not careful, he will believe it. And any return she makes (or slightest bit of affection she shows) looks like “the grand gesture”… when it’s anything but. An ex-girlfriend increases her “value” not by actually INCREASING HER VALUE… but my removing all other value from your life until there is very little left. She is counting on the ability to waltz right back into it while assuming you will be there. Don’t give her this satisfaction.

    This is why absolutely zero contact after a break up is so potent, effective and even necessary. By doing NOTHING – and with no effort – you show her that your time, attention, affection and care was not free or to be taken for granted. You pull the rug out from under her. Realize that she left because she thought she could come back. If she knew in advance it would be PERMANENT, she would have not have been so quick to pull the trigger. Keeping as many irons in the fire as she can is her game. Why do you think women collect EX-es like shoes on Facebook? How many pairs of shoes and outfits do women keep which they have no interest in wearing again?

    They do this so that you can be “Justin Case.” If you take her back, that’s your name. “Justin Case”.

    • Just in case she gets fat.
    • Just in case it doesn’t work out with the new guy
    • Just in case she needs a date on national holidays
    • Just in case she needs an emotional tampon

    Never be that guy.

    The holidays (especially) are when women are on the prowl. The day before Thanksgiving to the day after Valentines’ Day is when men would do well to make themselves as scarce as possible.

    One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.
    That’s something you can say to her face. Merry Christmas. My gift to you.

    Thank you for this KM.
    I know that but I needed it to be written down as per my current situation.

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