How to prevent MGTOW.com from becoming an Idiocracy

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

I put grammar nazi at the very top my tuna behavior list. Correcting a man is woman’s work.

Agreed.

Grammar policing is disrespectful and has no place amongst men.

But, having standards is a manly quality of civilized men.

Savages and children are destructive.

Civilized men create beautiful things.

Savages will always attack men who write beautifully.

A man who cannot write well has only trained his mind to a child’s level. He is a boy in a man’s body. He is a mental lightweight and a man of no consequence.
He should be ashamed of himself.

If we want this web site to be for men and not boys, we should NOT be giving men who can’t write an “At-A-Boy” for being dummies.

Scum Bags will try to emasculate a Man who challenges them to think.

Dummies have a hard time with big words, punctuation, sentences, paragraphs, and logical arguments.

Anyone ever wonder what it would be like to be in a country consisting of just men?

At first, it sounds great.

But, the quality of life would really depend on the standards of manhood.

I would not want to live with a bunch of physically powerful adult children and retards.

Civilization is built by men who have all three manly qualities of strong bodies, brave hearts, and great minds.

Savages will always convince themselves that a man with an advanced mind is a pussy. At least they hope that is the case, so they can steal their good s~~~. Savages are too retarded to make their own good s~~~.

Savages are really Adult Children with too much power.

Savages create Idiocracy.

Savages are destructive.

Savages are parasites.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[RoninParticipant 128]

I’m with you. The quality that is integral here is discipline. The discipline to temper your communication to the point where it leaves no doubt in its intended message. I have some work to do still. To the naysayers, I argue isn’t one of the hallmarks of a man, logic? So this is akin to doing squats to improve your legs.

Consume knowledge gents, cultivate wisdom and don’t skip leg day.

More to come…
Ronin signing out

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Grammar policing is disrespectful and has no place amongst men.

I disagree. Language is of utmost importance. Grammar is important.

It conveys thought.

It conveys thought accurately.

Ronin wrote:

The discipline to temper your communication to the point where it leaves no doubt in its intended message.

Yep.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Ronin wrote:

To the naysayers, I argue isn’t one of the hallmarks of a man, logic?

Logic is like a religion for a man with a great mind.

Without logic, we are just a bunch of Filthy Animals.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Anyone who doesn’t take grammar seriously will never understand the joys and benefits of learning another language. Aside from English, I speak Greek, and now I’m in the process of learning German.

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[MarketWatcherParticipant]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Savages will always attack men who write beautifully

Well, I have nothing to worry about!

Good post.

[Anonymous 1]

Some of my favourite posters here lack spelling and grammar, but they hit their mark everytime.

I’ve seen idiots on this site, write with perfect spelling and grammar, but what they say never made any sense to me.

With respect, I disagree.

This isn’t helpful.

OP – I don’t know you and you certainly don’t know me. You seem to enjoy spending your time here creating divides.

Had a go at atton, now you’re doing this.

Do you think there might be better use of men’s time on these forums?

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

The Manipulated Man wrote:
Grammar policing is disrespectful and has no place amongst men.
I disagree. Language is of utmost importance. Grammar is important.

It conveys thought.

It conveys thought accurately.

Grammar policing and having good grammar are two different things.
One is a petty show of irritation and the other is a self imposed discipline / skill. I think all men should aspire to have good grammar along with many other skills that demonstrate competence. The value of good grammar as you said is to “covey’s thought accurately”. I have no wish to convey that I’m a petty tyrant by correcting someone. Many times I wish I was as articulate as yumbo, Doc or Fuast. Maybe if I keep working on it.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Ancient Greek Language Said to Reprogram The Brain

Students should learn second language to prevent dementia in later life

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[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Without proper grammar, there is no way in hell one would be able to convey the intricacies within deep conversation.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 3]

Language is indeed important, but it’s give and take. You can do your absolute best to convey your thoughts in the most accurate, precise, efficient manner possible, but if the other person isn’t receptive to it, or is fixated on little irrelevant mistakes, perhaps a grammar or a misspell, so much so to the point where these little blunders take precedence over the actual message itself, then the reader/listener has some work to do.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

He says people who correct grammar are Nazi t~~~s, but then proceeds to make sweeping judgements about men who don’t write up to his standards.

What is worse, correcting a man’s grammar when you feel it is necessary and will help him improve his ability to convey his thoughts, or attacking him for being an idiot savage for his mistakes?
And who exactly is being a grammar Nazi here, that this is even a pressing issue? I have not seen it.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

There is a time and place for man to retain his savagery.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[Anonymous 1]

I partially agree with your point of view, but it is a bit simplistic.
First you have to consider the men that are not from USA and UK(meaning that they speak a different language and english is not their main). Secondly, you have to consider that not all men had the luck to go through a decent school, or had the instruments to learn the language by themselves. And as a last point, there are men that did not have a job where they had to put words together, and maybe they were not great readers during their lives. I do not feel like we should exclude someone because of their reading/writing skills, it would be better to correct them when possible(I see nothing wrong with it), and help them.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

If we want this web site to be for men and not boys, we should NOT be giving men who can’t write an “At-A-Boy” for being dummies.

To me there is only one evident requirement, and it is having a real dick. Then, some men need to be “straighten up” because some still spend their time on facecuck, reason like bluepills, take advices as a personal offence rather than just advices etc.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Since I joined MGTOW I have heard many men here say improve yourself so much that I think of it as a MGTOW core value. Cooking tips are shared, knowledge of cars, politics, and today grammar are expressed as prudent competencies for a man trying to improve himself to work on. Focusing on a path of self improvement is the best journey away from woman and society I can think of.
Sorry if I digressed a bit from the topic.
This is a good thread.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Back in Black wrote:

There is a time and place for man to retain his savagery.

True. In my opinion, language is a tool to convey thoughts and ideas efficiently, meaning that knowing how and when to switch between different styles of communicating is a must.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

I’m an English (and Latin) teacher. Correcting grammar errors (in two languages) is literally what I get paid to do.

That being said, correcting your students/children is one thing, correcting your peers is another. It’s not my job to fix people’s grammar on this site, so I don’t, nor do grammatical errors even bother me.

Grammar is extremely important. Excellent grammar is a necessity when discussing advanced intellectual topics like philosophy and literature. But basic common sense is just as important, and you don’t need high level grammar to communicate basic wisdom. Old Sage’s spelling is absolutely atrocious, but his content is absolutely on point.

In the end, language is nothing more than a means for communicating thoughts. If you speak/write and I understand you, then MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, even if there were grammar errors.

However, if you want someone to understand why Aquinas argues that actual existence is ontologically superior to potential existence, or how actuality and potentiality play a role in Aristotle’s hylomorphic theory, or what Shakespeare means by “thy quips and thy quiddities,” then you better have some f~~~ing good grammar.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

And who exactly is being a grammar Nazi here, that this is even a pressing issue? I have not seen it.

No. You’re correct there is no issue with it on the site.
This discussion was pulled from another thread and it became a general discussion.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Grammar is extremely important. Excellent grammar is a necessity when discussing advanced intellectual topics like philosophy and literature.

Love you bro.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Since I joined MGTOW I have heard many men here say improve yourself so much that I think of it as a MGTOW core value. Cooking tips are shared, knowledge of cars, politics, and today grammar are expressed as prudent competencies for a man trying to improve himself to work on. Focusing on a path of self improvement is the best journey away from woman and society I can think of.
Sorry if I digressed a bit from the topic.
This is a good thread.

There is a good conversation to be had here about the importance of grammar and writing, one where many POV’s can be heard.

But mocking people who make mistakes in grammar as savages and idiots is far worse than any correction/help with one’s grammar, and is not a good way to start that conversation.
It seems like a way to shame and silence other men.

Yes, I cringe sometimes when I see a thread title that is all fubar, and I wish someone would correct it, but if the message is solid I don’t have a problem.
This is just divisive and following the trend of the other thread.

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