How to gain freedom from your biology as a single man

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  • #128597
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    InvisibleMan
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    I posted this on another site; it may seem out of context here but hopefully helps at least one man put their biology into perspective and helps them out from that angle.

    Shulamith has a valid point. We are all prisoners of our biology. In fact I would argue men experience the detrimental affects of their biology to a higher degree than women, and are harmed by it more so than women. Shulamith thought woman’s biology constrained them to be prisoners to men. Truth is men’s biology constrains them to be prisoners of women through the promise of sex they bring.

    Our sex drives are so ridiculously strong that so much of our behavior inadvertently revolves around sex in some way.
    But because not only my body; but my society, tell me that it’s so important it’s difficult for many men to realize they are in a way prisoners to sex. In reality sex is nothing spectacular and I wouldn’t say was worth the time and effort I wasted on it.

    If I could be free of the biological processes that see my body placing an over emphasis on procreation; then I feel I would enter a much happier state akin to what I experienced during childhood.

    So much of my time is wasted on thinking about sex or going through the motions to rid my body of these primitive sexual urges that it scares me how more productive I could be if I didn’t have to cater to them at all. Or at least had the ability to control when I experienced them; switching them on and off at will is something more attractive than the current situation which sees me a testosterone overloaded red blooded male 100% of the time, who feels his body is working against him a lot of the time. Sometimes it feels as if I am living in some weird quasi sperm factory.

    I can’t even sit down and watch TV without some sexualized portrayal leaving me questioning what exactly the advertiser is trying to elicit from me. Do they want me to have sex with their product…because from where I sit it’s wholly unnecessary to be finding myself constantly subjected to advertisers trying to sexually arouse me.

    Here is an example of what I am talking about http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3268909/Jennifer-Hawkins-flirts-storm-actor-Josh-Lawson-bar-bares-revealing-jumpsuit-Mount-Franklin-commercial.html

    Truth is I am only in my late twenties but I got bored of sex by the age of 25. And then I realized that my society was geared towards making me think sex is this amazing thing I needed to feel fulfilled in life. Well sorry….it isn’t. Truth is love doesn’t exist. It’s mostly an illusion. Sure I agree you can meet amazing people who have unique vibrant personalities. But I also think most of what we think is love is actually just our bodies having a favourable response to a physically attractive person.

    Once you realize society and nature are trying to use your primal urges to control you it makes you less inclined to enjoy or desire sex. I am to a point now where physically attractive people no longer do much if anything for me…I think their beauty is only skin deep and they are not actively responsible for their beauty. It’s just luck of the draw. So why should I give them so much attention and praise- when they have done nothing to deserve it. Truth is the only reason attractive people get the time of day is because of biology.

    But the truth is if men didn’t have such high sex drives society would fall apart over night. There would be no more families, no more children, and perhaps no more meaning. But would there be many more happier men? Possibly.

    Still, if I could pop a pill that would free me of my biological sex drive; and all the complications and unhappiness that go along with it- I would.

    Just discovered according to Wikipedias anaphrodisiac page liquorice can lower levels of testosterone. Woo hoo! Freedom here I come!

    #128629
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    Truthseeker82
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    VERY well said and true. We are biologically programmed the way we are as men to insure survival of our species. Nothing more. The rest of the fairytale – love, companionship, support – is garbage. I know people who have gotten more love and companionship from their dogs or cats. No animal companion ever “needed to find herself” and through the use of our biased judicial system – ran a man’s b~~~~ through a financial and emotional wood chipper. I think of all the things that brought my happiness when I was single – almost all of them had NOTHING to do with sex. Sure, sex can be enjoyable – but emphasis on the word CAN. Doesn’t mean it always is. A meal cooked by a five star chef would probably taste like warmed over fast food if eaten in a subway bathroom. Same with sex. When you look at all the trappings that go with it – the dish is not as tasty as it is set out to be.

    #128633
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    RoyDal
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    What distinguishes us from the rest of the living organisms on this planet is that we have self-awareness and a “moral compass” which makes it possible to recognize our biological programming and override it. I am proud to say I believe this is exactly what MGTOW do.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #128640
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    Chinweizu made a profound statement in “Anatomy of Female Power”
    He’s Nigerian, living in Africa.
    He’s totally against female circumcision but not for all the mainstream reasons.
    He’s against it because it decreases the woman’s sex drive, further widening the power gap that women have over men.
    Women have been circumcising their female offspring since time immemorial and they’ve done it for a reason. They end up with close to zero sex need.
    Sex gives women enormous power over men. All women know it. Very few admit it unless they’re gloating or drunk.
    It’s the most efficient controlling mechanism women have to secure and train men.
    Women constantly claim men are objective when it comes to sex. They never stop putting men down because of it,,,and we believe them.
    Yet there’s not a married man who ever lived who wouldn’t acknowledge that sex is a reward/punishment mechanism used on a daily basis by women.
    It’s another example of cognitive dissonance and brainwashing at it’s very best. We’re accused of being pigs and we eventually believe it.
    Women are sociopathic with their use of sex on men,,,, utterly ruthless and manipulating,,,,, we’re the emotional suckers., not them.

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    Shiny
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    Women have been circumcising their female offspring since time immemorial and they’ve done it for a reason. They end up with close to zero sex need.
    Sex gives women enormous power over men. All women know it. Very few admit it unless they’re gloating or drunk.
    It’s the most efficient controlling mechanism women have to secure and train men.

    I’d noticed it was women who were pushing female circumcision in societies that practise that but had never thought about the reason. That’s brilliant – well said. (And to Chinweizu, too).

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    InvisibleMan
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    Can a mod delete this topic? I no longer wish to air all my personal thoughts on this topic.

    #128649
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    RedDawn
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    I agree with the notion that love is an illusion. In my opinion love is a euphemism for emotional dependence; it is an attachment to a person and sex and women use it as a commodity, treating access to their anatomy like a diamond, to emotionally extort men to do their bidding with the c~~~ on a stick in front of them.

    In the book ‘The 48 laws of power’ rule 38 is ‘Disdain things you cannot have : ignoring them is the best revenge’, what this means is that the more attention you give a problem or person the more superior you make it to yourself, in our case women; therefore, if we ignore women who try to seduce or get attention from us than we actually prove ourselves more superior to them. If most men started ignoring women, the price of pussy would dramatically fall. The reason there are so many self-entitled, ugly, monsters that call themselves women is due to men tripping over themselves to try get a piece of the pie. So what was once dirt is considered a diamond.

    Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

    #128666
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    Tiga K
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    Freedom from biology? Just stay focused on other things. For example, when I get really obsessed with a video game, my mind will wander to thoughts about the game instead of anything sexual. I don’t even pay attention to the ladies. I’m busy doing something or absorbed in though. Hobbies do the job just fine for me. When my urges are stronger than usual, I fap it off and continue what I was doing.

    #128682
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    Untamed
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    I love my “biology” and I’ll have sex as often as I want. Desires may bother you and I can understand it if you have so much trouble controlling yourself but I’d like you not make it an encompassing issue for all men with this Shulamith, whoever he is, and his take on love.
    “Love is an illusion” isn’t a valid conclusion for the issues facing us. Then Hate is an “illusion” as well but go tell that to the one murdered out of hate, I’m sure he’ll disagree if he could.
    Being a man is accepting yourself as you are and move on from there to better yourself, not cut your dick off. Instead of denying your desires you should try understanding them and incorporate them into the person that makes of you a whole.
    What is it these days with guys who want to completely go eunuch because their sexuality troubles them? Is it the world now? Throw away what we can’t solve?

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #128683
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    K
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    i don’t know guys , i say EMBRACE your biology ! REJOICE that you were LUCKY to be born male ! it’s POWERFUL fuel , you can literally climb mountains , sail a boat , go sky-diving , plan and rebuild a house, car , motorcycle , go deep sea fishing ..if you DON’T jerk off all day , or chase tail as a full time job ..it’s ALL PSYCHOLOGICAL ! the social conditioning is STRONG , true , but going your own way allows you to reject the labels put on men WHO DON’T CONFORM .

    #128684
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    K
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    mgtow’s aren’t neccesarily celibate ,.if you are careful you can find chicks who want sex and let you live your life as you want..kick the bitches to the curb and BE PICKY ! LOVE your dick ! don;t just stick it ANYWHERE ! have STANDARDS ! like NO FAT CHICKS !

    #128685
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    Cipher Highwind
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    This has been my experience too; nature is like a magician in this regard: once her tricks are revealed, they cease to be as potent.

    Truth is I am only in my late twenties but I got bored of sex by the age of 25.

    Once you realize society and nature are trying to use your primal urges to control you it makes you less inclined to enjoy or desire sex. I am to a point now where physically attractive people no longer do much if anything for me…I think their beauty is only skin deep and they are not actively responsible for their beauty. It’s just luck of the draw. So why should I give them so much attention and praise- when they have done nothing to deserve it. Truth is the only reason attractive people get the time of day is because of biology.

    #128697
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    RedDawn
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    “Love is an illusion” isn’t a valid conclusion for the issues facing us. Then Hate is an “illusion” as well but go tell that to the one murdered out of hate, I’m sure he’ll disagree if he could.

    I don’t necessarily abstain from sex, though I am interested in understanding your perceptions of love. Is love not based on attachment, just like hate? If we did not feel such attachments then we would just feel indifferent, no?

    Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

    #128700
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    Puffin Stuff
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    How to gain freedom from your biology as a single man?

    Get married, have children, get anally raped in divorce and custody court. Watch your children turned into children who hate you. Watch all your money go to a gold digger that is getting money from her current john and all the other johns that came before him.

    That should do it.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #128703
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    Untamed
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    “Love is an illusion” isn’t a valid conclusion for the issues facing us. Then Hate is an “illusion” as well but go tell that to the one murdered out of hate, I’m sure he’ll disagree if he could.

    I don’t necessarily abstain from sex, though I am interested in understanding your perceptions of love. Is love not based on attachment, just like hate? If we did not feel such attachments then we would just feel indifferent, no?

    No.
    Love isn’t based on attachment in my opinion but on desires. The desire to see a certain person better off, to spend quality time with them, understand them, help them physically, emotionally and sexually. No desire no love.
    Attachment is a need, not love. Love is a conscious act. A baby who isn’t even aware of himself doesn’t love but is attached to his parents for protection, validation, guidance, sustenance…Only when the child can understand certain things can he differentiate between needing his parents ( attachment) and loving them ( conscious act).

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #128749
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    Rebalanced
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    Chinweizu made a profound statement in “Anatomy of Female Power”
    He’s Nigerian, living in Africa.
    He’s totally against female circumcision but not for all the mainstream reasons.
    He’s against it because it decreases the woman’s sex drive, further widening the power gap that women have over men.

    There’s a LOT of Nigerians (and other Africans) running around slutting it up over here so that claim isn’t as strong as it may seem.
    There’s Arabs and other nationalities that just get anally dealt with so to appear as a virgin to the mug who marries them also.
    Then you have the good ‘church’ girls who may wear a chastity belt just not on their mouths where they get repeatedly skull f’d.

    Unless their asses and lips on their mouths get circumcised too then a ho is gonna be a ho, FGM’d or not.

    I don't need pussy

    #128769
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    Biggvs_Dickvs
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    Truth is men’s biology constrains them to be prisoners of women through the promise of sex they bring.

    Our sex drives are so ridiculously strong that so much of our behavior inadvertently revolves around sex in some way.

    Preach it brother. I haven’t read the rest of your post yet, but that was enough to get me hooked. I have been thinking along these lines for YEARS but have been afraid to express that idea for fear of being shamed or belittled or worse – outright dismissed.

    I think there is great truth to that and if the world would face this one undeniable truth and deal with it using the same “compassion” and “concern for wellbeing” that has been show to every other so-called disadvantaged group on earth that we might finally have some real human progress.

    "Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

    #128770
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    Biggvs_Dickvs
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    A meal cooked by a five star chef would probably taste like warmed over fast food if eaten in a subway bathroom. Same with sex.

    Don’t knock subway bathroom sex till you’ve tried it my friend.

    Just sayin. Remember: Sex is NOT dirty…..unless it’s done right.

    😉

    "Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

    #128779
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    ILiveAgain
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    How to gain freedom from your biology as a single man?
    Get married, have children, get anally raped in divorce and custody court. Watch your children turned into children who hate you. Watch all your money go to a gold digger that is getting money from her current john and all the other johns that came before him.
    That should do it.

    If only there were a pill that could mimic that feeling. Should be in male restrooms next to the condom machine.

    #128782
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    Bachelor4good
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    How to gain freedom from your biology as a single man?Get married, have children, get anally raped in divorce and custody court. Watch your children turned into children who hate you. Watch all your money go to a gold digger that is getting money from her current john and all the other johns that came before him.That should do it.

    If only there were a pill that could mimic that feeling. Should be in male restrooms next to the condom machine.

    Why not make a sticker of H.R. Pufnstuf´s quote and pin them on eye-level in every male restroom?

    IDGAF

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