How to Dump That Bitch

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

Following is the letter I gave to my woman today. This has been a long time coming. Apparent there are still a few bugs in the system. The board seems to have made a few odd changes below particularly with any figure following a dollar sign. Strange but anyway on with the show.

Dear Beth,

The following 5 pages are notes that I have taken about our relationship over the past couple of months. Not everything is included. Much of it I didn’t know how to put into words. But I think you’ll get the gist of it. I’m not angry with you. But I am extremely disappointed.

I’ve tried everything I could to get you to change your behavior. You clearly don’t want to change. That’s your decision to make. But you are going to have to live with the consequences of that decision.

Fortunately I have the freedom to make my choices as well. And I too will have to live with them. I’m done living in a relationship that has no passion and no mutual interests. I haven’t kissed you in days and you haven’t cared or even noticed.

Love without passion is a friendship. And I hope we can remain friends. You promised me way back when we started that we could do that. And since neither Chris nor Lisa are in a position to go elsewhere I still expect to see you often.

But I’ve been putting much more into this relationship than I’ve been getting out of it. It’s just not worth it anymore. This shouldn’t come as a shock because I’ve told you plenty of times that I expected more from you. When I did your response was that I shouldn’t. You said that I was “treating you like a renter” because I even expected anything in return. The idea of putting effort into this relationship seems to be completely foreign to you.

Well, as my favorite bartender used to say at closing time, “You don’t have to go home but you can’t stay here.” My suggestion is that you tell your mom that I refused to kick John (a tenant) out so you need some time away to calm your nerves. Like you said you were going to do a couple of months ago. And if you want, like I promised, I will help you clean your dad’s old space. That way you won’t be exposed to your mom’s smoking.

If you were a renter I would be required to give you 3 weeks’ notice of your eviction. But I don’t think that’s necessary since you have some place you can go. And I don’t know about you but I think it would be uncomfortable for you to stay any longer than you have to.

You’ve been the love of my life for the last 14 years. That’s 3 times longer than anyone else. And I will always love and adore you. But without passion and effort I think it’s time we started treating this relationship as it really is, a friendship.

10/2
Beth’s mom got her notice about widow benefits from Social Security. She will be getting an extra 0 a month plus 0 from his pension. This puts her monthly income over 00 a month. Nice money for a woman who pretty much drove her cuckolded husband into his grave.

9/28
Beth drank up all my vodka without asking. She left about a half a shot in the bottle. I took the bottle into the bedroom, held it up, and said, “Really? (long pause) Why don’t you just finish it.” and tossed it on the bed. She gave me a sheepish look.

9/27
Beth made a spiral ham for dinner. But last night she pretty much indicated that she isn’t interested in watching ANYTHING on TV with me. I told her I had downloaded part of a series that she actually said she liked. She said she’s just not going to start watching anything new. At all. She also refused to watch Kick Ass with me. She just wants to watch the same s~~~ over and over. But I guess if I pay her way she’ll still go to movies with me.

9/26
Chris went and got pizzas. Beth said she tried to wake me up to see if I wanted some but she couldn’t wake me. Stacy made spaghetti for her crew and asked me if I wanted some. She pulled some meat sauce aside for me that I will have over eggplant.

9/25
Beth continues to interrupt me every time I open my mouth. Even right after I complain to her about it. She says that if I don’t want to be interrupted then I should just quit talking to her. Be careful what you wish for baby.

9/24
Beth wanted me to get TV dinners. I had a salad instead. She was on the internet trying to find trips for her mom and her to go to Sea World in San Diego. She swapped out the new TV from the bedroom for the old one from the dining room.

9/20-22
No dinner Sunday or Monday. Tuesday I made stir fry and Beth made rice to go with it. I notice that I am starting to “unwind” from my loving thoughts about the nice dinner she made 4 days ago. It’s like she does some little thing for me and I just overflow with affection for her. Like a dog begging for table scraps. She’s still doing about the least she possibly can. I’m just desperate for any tiny amount of meal or affection I might get. It’s really f~~~ing pathetic!

9/19
Beth made a GREAT eggplant and regular parmesan for dinner. She worked very hard on it.

9/17
Beth made me hot dogs and chili for dinner. Last night she made me some prefab shepherd’s pie
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9/15
Beth interrupts me constantly. I can barely finish a sentence. I tried to tell her that my blood sugar is over 300 even though I’ve had little to eat and taken extra insulin. I got a half sentence out, which she ignored, then she called me over to look at some silly thing on her new tablet. Then we got into a bickering match about her interrupting. She is getting her hearing tested next time she goes to the doctor. But that doesn’t explain why she keeps cutting me off in the middle of my sentences. It’s just rude as Hell.

9/13
I had a dream that Dave and I had climbed up a very rocky mountain. It was about the size of Beacon Rock. At the top one side was a very sheer cliff. The other 3 sides were extremely steep and rocky. Dave started down before me. Just as I was ready to start down a man I didn’t know reached the top. He walked to the edge of the cliff. He crossed his arms as I was taught in boot camp for jumping off a burning ship in the Navy. A few seconds later I heard him splash into the water. I tried to tell Dave what the man had done but he was too busy trying to navigate the steep rocky side of the cliff. I was carrying a guitar case that had two roughly shaped wooden boards inside. I dropped them down the cliff a little ways and prepared to climb down. But I was scared to death. I didn’t think I could make it down off of the mountain. I started thinking about jumping the way the man had done but I was afraid. I thought about telling Dave to see if he could get me a life flight off of there. Then I woke up.

Lisa and Beth made a deal the other night. Beth made some steaks. Lisa was supposed to make chicken tonight. Lisa dropped a piece of raw chicken on the floor and dumped a bunch of flower on the floor. Then she said she didn’t want to make dinner. Somehow the chicken got made.

9/12
I told Beth to set the alarm for 9AM so I could wake up in time for my political meeting. Dave called and woke me up at 10 wanting to go do something. Apparently Beth shut the alarm off went it went off causing me to miss my meeting. We took a nap in the afternoon and woke up about 7PM. She asked me, “Would you like waffles this morning?” thinking it was daytime. But shortly after she told me I was on my own for dinner because she was going out with her mom. The best thing about this relationship is the space. At least she isn’t always in my face like most women.

9/11
Beth keeps whining about wanting the TV fixed. This is after she took great pleasure in terminating Stacey’s lease. She doesn’t have a clue on how I’m supposed to pay these bills except to say, “We’ll be OK.” I started to ask her this morning to find out if we could still get credit for the repair evaluation even if we have to bring the TV back later for repairs. But she kept interrupting me to the point where I told her that from now on when she interrupts I’m not even going to tell her what I was going to say. She also told me the other night that she tests positive for hepatitis C from her druggie days which now seems to have included needles. She thinks she may have passed the disease on to me. I need to get tested for it. (9/22 My test came back negative. She opened my mail from the VA. She opens all my mail.)

8/28
Beth continues to not use the swimming pool that she absolutely insisted on having. It cost about ,000 and keep me from getting the hot tub I wanted that would have gotten 10 times the amount of use. Worse it gave John so many hours that he decided to take 4 months to do the f~~~ing hall bathroom because he was afraid (due to her running her mouth) that she would kick him out before he got his full rent. And while John was having his labor strike we went through the money that should have gone to fix this place up.

Beth borrowed another yesterday so that’s an extra for the month. She said she needed it to go with a friend who is morning her husband’s? death. She ended up not going but she still has the money. Her mom called this morning and from what I could tell from Beth’s half of the conversation her mom is broke. Beth said “I can bring you a little.” which apparently refers to my . Beth’s mom got K when her husband passed a few months ago. But none of the bills got paid since he’s then. Beth says her son Doug, who had power of atty, failed to pay them and seems to have misappropriated some of it.

Beth woke me up blaring some noisy video on her laptop. She has to watch that instead of the 55″ TV that she wore out. She keeps the laptop right by my head on my side of the bed so she can watch it. Even though I keep telling her it’s in my way. She doesn’t care.

8/22
I told Beth that considering all I do for her I don’t think it’s acceptable that she only cooks for me about once a week. I had to explain it to her like she is a child. And she argued with me and got p~~~ed off because I kept going on about it when I was simply trying to make her understand. I said that considering all I do for her I shouldn’t have to rely on Marie Calendar’s to keep from starving. She says I can cook for her once a month*. I’d be happy to do that but her attitude sucks. She does the very least she can to get by. * Never mind that I just bought her an dinner this week.
Beth came in with a plate of kabalsa pieces with bbq sauce, mac & cheese, frozen peas, a few tomato slices, and a few cling peaches. She handed me the plate with a “so there” attitude and said, “How’s that for 15 minutes!” then stomped out of the room. BTW she did cook me a brat with some cold beans earlier today. Woo hoo! I’m living the good life!
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8/20
Beth has cooked exactly 2 meals for me in the week and a half since I have been home from camping. She went out with her mom tonight. She was supposed to be gone about an hour. About 11:30 PM I called her to see if she was going to come home and cook me something to eat (chicken tenders with a salad.) She told me she was at Taboos picking out a vibrator with her mom. Then she went into total bitch mode when I told her I would just fix something for myself. I had a roast beef sandwich and a few chips.

8/18
Our anniversary so she was in a good mood. I took her to Black Angus for prime rib. No sex.

8/16
Beth borrowed until the first so she can go gambling with her mom.

8/8 – 8/15
Beth’s behavior has continued about the same. On the plus side she did accept that tickets to Lion King at each are not affordable at this time. Then she realized that the show isn’t until 2016 and began begging a year early. She says we can probably get cheaper tickets a little closer to show time. Our 3 year anniversary is next Tuesday. I told her I would take her out for a nice dinner. But that doesn’t seem to be sufficient. Meanwhile I finally figured out that her promises of a new hot tub if and when she gets her SSI back pay will probably not happen because of her student loans. And she has presented me with a list of this month’s bills.
*pud 227.51
*water and sewer 191.92
cricket 70 autopay 8/16
*tv/internet 138.50
garbage 53.01 auto 8/28
my gieco paid 8/6 63.85
your gieco auto 8/25? 60?

total needed to pay non-auto 7.93

needed for other auto around 183.01 if cricket hasn’t come out yet and your insurance is about 60

8/7
Beth was a complete mega-bitch at Costco today. She bought a bunch of stuff like cheese cake and muffins even though I repeatedly told her that it was putting my health at risk. And of course she used my money to do it. On top of which she was just nasty the whole time we were there. On a more positive note she cut John some slack about staying a while longer around here with Stacy. So I give her a plus for that.

8/6
Beth made meatloaf at my request for dinner. That’s a plus. But later she complained that my feet sounded awful (when I rubbed them together) because of the dry skin. She suggested that I put lotion on them. I asked if she would do it. She refused. I said that she seems to ask for a LOT more than she is willing to give considering that she doesn’t pay any rent. She got upset and said I’m still treating her like nothing more than a renter. Apparently doing extra small things to justify all the room she takes up in my life and the resources she consumes is too much to ask of her.

8/5
I told Beth I wanted a good steak. She asked Chris if she wanted one too. She didn’t tell me I was buying Chris’s too @ a pound! She ate her usual 1/2 a steak and left the rest of hers on the broiler. Somebody had taken it by the time I went back for it. Beth was like, “Well, if it was still sitting there it was ‘fair game”. A a pound steak? I told her that it was not my responsibility to buy everyone around here a pound steaks. She couldn’t have cared less. So no respect for my damned money to which she contributes NOTHING!

8/4
I went camping for 5 days. I missed Beth a bit. Particularly when I was trying to find her an “I went somewhere without you” gift. I came up with a new signature that incorporates a heart with her initial ‘T’ in it. She LOVED it! But she was supposed to clean my office for me while I was gone. It didn’t happen. So she gets a minus.

7/26
After 3 months of badgering Beth finally talked me into spending to see Aerosmith for the 5th time. Even though I drove her all the way across the state to see them only a year ago. At which point she couldn’t walk down the hill to actually see them so we ended up watching them on a screen the size of a postage stamp. This time Beth got her friend Jacqui to pitch in with the nagging. She is kicking in and claims that somehow she will pay me another . But we’ll see if she actually does without begging for more money afterwards.

7/23/15
Beth and I went to Costco to get paper towels and toilet paper and such. I told her I didn’t want to spend more than 0. She started to put bratwursts and things into the cart and I told her, “OK that’s . When she realized that I was serious about keeping the costs down she griped a little bit but put the brats back. We left with pretty much just what we needed for about .
Dinner was a polish sausage from costco.

7/22
Dinner was a container of Jim Beam pulled pork and a can of beans. But she did help me print a walk list for the 651st.

7/12 – 7/18 (Last Week)
Beth responded to my therapist’s point (that if I fall over dead Beth is basically f~~~ed so she had better help with my diabetes) by getting angry that Kate is “laying a guilt trip on her”. The point was completely lost on her.

She also wore out the 55″ TV after one year because she never turned it off. Then she insisted that she be allowed to use the projector and wear that out too. Then she got p~~~ed off and insisted that I have to get the TV fixed for her. No sweet talk or kissy face manipulation. Just anger and demands.
She said the “pressure was getting to her” and she wanted to go stay at her mom’s for a couple of weeks so she didn’t have a heart attack.

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

After she read it she said, “If that’s the way you want it I’ll be out tomorrow!”

I replied, “Apparently the way I want it is not an option. You don’t seem to think I’m worth that much effort.”

Now, hopefully, by being as nice about this as I possibly can, maybe, she won’t look for ways to f~~~ me over!

[Anonymous 18]

Don’t admit that her f~~~ing you over is a concern. If you do then she just may very well do so.

You seem like a really nice guy. And seems like Beth just…. got bored. Use that to your advantage and be extra nice….

Don’t go back and forth. 14 years is a long time and no doubt there would be feelings and doubts.

It’s good that you have your thoughts and feelings written down. So you know exactly why you couldn’t be with her.

Good luck brother.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I hope she goes without drama …. but …. well …. she’s a woman. Drama is their lifeblood.

I fear the worst and hope for the best ….. so should you.

Eventually you will find a peace like no other …. and that should no be your focus.

14 years ….. there are legal traps with that amount of time …. so just hope she won’t go full retard (drama) or have any friends that will stoke a fire (drama)

As I hope you know ….. we are here for you.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Chucks_Revenge wrote:

Now, hopefully, by being as nice about this as I possibly can, maybe, she won’t look for ways to f~~~ me over!

Solid Class….. Stand and deliver, yet prepared to receive.

ILiveAgain wrote:

I fear the worst and hope for the best ….. so should you.

ILA has some sound advice there.

I hope the best for you Muddy

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[pharmerParticipant 407]

Good luck Muddy. I did a month short of 14years before my split.
Stay focused on your future. Keep calm. Don’t let her contaminate it with drama and head games.
Take every dealing you have with her now with extreme caution. You’ve split so you have no value to her now. At a whim she may decide to try and wreck your life for so much as the price of a cheese burger.
And most of all celebrate! you’re a free man started on the MGTOW path.

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

Thank you for your support gentlemen. I never would have found my b~~~~ if not for MGTOW here and on YouTube,

[TaoTheMgtowWandererParticipant 263]

step 1: get a bunch of your friends to help get all of her s~~~ out of your place
step 2: then change the locks so that she can’t get back in.
step 3:have the police waiting when she arrives so that she has no choice but to be civil.

Let me tell you what you just avoided by girlfriending that wench instead of paying full price and marrying her like a fool.

My peace of mind is worth more then your vagina...cunt.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Well, you got to be very careful about what you say to her from now on until she’s completely out of your life. She can do lots of things out of spite, either from her own feelings or stoked by friends. Pharmer is right on the money.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[DDJParticipant 1880]

To the OP:

It’s clear you loved her…it’s clear you didn’t want the relationship to end, if it was salvageable. As you know, actions always speak louder than words and in order for her to deserve you…she needs to demonstrate she’s worth your time…by what she brings to the table…in this case…what she brings to the table detracts, it doesn’t add.

Narcissistic women are unable to care or love anyone but themselves. Yet, my personal opinion is that not all women are narcissistic all the time. That said… even while walking out the door…don’t waste your time seeking closure or being gentlemanly enough to provide an explanation…these selfish narcissists don’t get it…it confuses them.

Thank you for opening up to us and sharing this…many of us (myself included) have been though this kind of thing and because time is a non-renewable resource, MGTOW is a better investment.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

Beth came to pick up some clothes this morning after spending the night at her mom’s. She said, “You realize that I’m in therapy for this right?”

I shook my head sadly and confirmed that I already knew. I have to be careful not to weaken or to mislead her to think this can be resolved at this point.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Chucks_Revenge wrote:

Beth came to pick up some clothes this morning after spending the night at her mom’s. She said, “You realize that I’m in therapy for this right?”

So she admits that this is her problem to fix.

Do not let her tell you it’s also yours. It is NOT your problem.

One chance, per woman, per lifetime. Her chance lasted 14 years, but it was the only chance she gets. Do not make the mistake of giving her another one.

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

So here are the latest developments…

HER EMAIL

I am sorry, you are right, …

Dear M****,

I am sorry, you are right, I am to blame for things going so bad that you told me to move out. I been doing a lot of thinking and i figured out when this started and why. It has nothing to do with you, in fact you and Amy are the only reason I believe I am still alive. It started when I couldn’t work anymore. My depression keep getting worse and the physical pain was right following behind and increasing.

I stopped caring for myself more and more. Actually pretty much anything but you and having Amy back in my life. It got to the point I felt I would be better off dead. I honestly thought of killing myself a few time over the last 3 years or so. Not being able to adjust to living with so many people made me feel worse. It wasn’t just use to having so many people around after so many years of us living alone. I am sorry I could not handle it. I guess it just all happen to fast for me.

After that started getting to me I lost any interest in myself that was left at that point. Between that the the aches and pains getting worse because I didn’t want to so any at all. Once again I am sorry. I know I have been impossible to live and made your life hell. I wish I could make it up to you or change what happen but I am pretty damn sure I couldn’t no matter how hard I try. I am the one who is losing the best thing that ever came into my life. Including Bob [Her first husband who passed away]. I am also sorry that it drove you not be in love anymore. I know you still care but I hate that it came to this.

I hoped that therapy would but like everything else in my I was day late and a dollar short. Maybe someday I will be doing better, just wish I wasn’t to late for us.

I wish you the best and hope you find some that can give you what you want.

AND MY REPLY

Beth

You haven’t made my life Hell. I’ve been through Susan, Belinda, and Michelle remember? I know what Hell is and it was never like that with you. Well maybe with the gambling but that was long ago and didn’t last long. You’re the only woman who ever made me consistently happy.

I wish I knew what to do to help you. I will never stop loving you. But I also don’t want to lead you on. I just want to be honest with you. I want you always to be in my life. And its not like I want another or a different woman. I don’t feel like dealing with ANY woman right now in terms of a male/female relationship. I can explain that better at a later time. I don’t want to burden you with the details right now.

Try to get some rest and feel better,

M****

PS – Have you considered that your mood may be following your behavior? IOW you don’t get interested in things because you don’t do things. And you don’t do things because you aren’t interested. But maybe if you did something, regardless of the fact that you don’t want to, maybe you would get interested. And then your mood would improve. For example we could sit down once a week and watch a TV program like that one I emailed you about. Alternately you could go visit a stranger in the hospital or a retirement home. Just a couple of suggestions.

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

BTW her mother, for whom I have zero respect, asked her if she was going to be able to get some money out of me. Beth said she had no interest in doing that. This is a woman [mother] who was 17 & pregnant when she met her husband, spent him into the poor house, and then cheated on him right and left.

Beth used to say that her dad was more generous with her mom than I was with her [Beth]. She stopped saying that when I pointed out how she treated him in return. “So you think I should be more like your dad was with his money. Do you think you should get to cheat on me too? Since that’s the example you want to look to for your relationship,

[Anonymous 5]

Stellar manipulation at it’s finest! Even the implied threat of suicide!
She sure knows how to guilt trip. and weasel her way back in now that she’s found your limits.
Keep all records of all encounters..

If she was a client, I’d be under statutory obligation to report her to at least two authorities after reading that letter.

ILiveAgain wrote:

I hope she goes without drama …. but …. well …. she’s a woman. Drama is their lifeblood.

I fear the worst and hope for the best ….. so should you.

Eventually you will find a peace like no other …. and that should no be your focus.

14 years ….. there are legal traps with that amount of time …. so just hope she won’t go full retard (drama) or have any friends that will stoke a fire (drama)

As I hope you know ….. we are here for you.

I think it’s heading in that direction

[Chucks_RevengeParticipant 216]

So far things have gone remarkably well. She’s moved out and we’re getting along fine.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

MuddyWolf not to tell the future…

She will try to be on “good” behavior, she will weasel her way back into your life and then within a few months she will be back at her old games.

You won’t get rid of her again because now that she’s told you about her suicidal thoughts, she’ll know you’ll feel partly responsible if she even pretends to go through with it.

In short mate, you’re thoroughly f~~~ed if you let her co-habitat with you again. Which is sad because that’s exactly where I see this going……

If you’re serious about continuing this relationship, find things you can do together with her…. NOT at your house … and IN PUBLIC.

Then see if she’s even pleasant enough to be around. Lastly, and most importantly, that mother is your enemy from hell. She went straight for your wallet, and if anything you might be amiable towards your girl just to have her ear over her mother.

Anyway, best of luck.

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