How to burst their bubble

[boisdevieParticipant 257]

I often listen to Tom Leykis on YouTube – the guy is a god. One of his callers was explaining how to destroy a womans’ sense of entitlement. Go up to a beautiful woman in a bar. Buy her a drink. Have a chat. Then leave.
She’s left thinking – ‘what’s wrong with me? Why did he leave?’
Whatever we can do to try to bring them back down to earth is surely a good thing. Anyone got any other good tactics? Not just to ignore them but to shock them?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Why bother? Is it a good idea to humiliate anyone for humiliation’s sake alone? Ignore her completely and spend that money on yourself.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 3]

Doesn’t sound like MGTOW mentality at all. Sounds like someone that is obsessed with women and makes up things to convince himself women are obsessed with him.

Beautiful women generally don’t frequent bars alone, and in the rare event they would, someone else would give her attention anyway. She really won’t care, she got a free drink, and you already gave her attention with the chat. The vast majority of women only want attention from strangers, nothing more. In the event you did try to ask her out, she’d bring up a boyfriend or just say she was being friendly and you are the one that is getting too excited. It’s nothing but a s~~~ test, but women are all about plausible deniability and being “chased”. They don’t care who does the chasing and they really don’t ever focus in one guy, unless you’re already having sex with her she can never bother thinking about you, and even then women have shown they are quick to find another guy and hit the c~~~ carousel.

The only women this would affect are post wall women, who I hardly classify as beautiful, and who would follow you right out the door and harass you, so you lose that way too.

[Anonymous 3]

Forget Tom Leykis. You need to listen to this.

[Anonymous 42]

I’d rather leave them alone to ask themselves what’s wrong with all the manginas pandering to them…

[boisdevieParticipant 257]

1. I didn’t buy any woman a drink – please read what I wrote.
2. I’m not trying to fix or repair anything. I was pondering the subject of doing stuff that gets women to reassess themselves.
3. “Doesn’t sound like MGTOW mentality at all. ” – so is this some club where we have a set of rules that we all have to follow? The words are ‘own way’. If anyone tries to straightjacket me into any way of thinking/behavoir/action then can just f~~~ right off.

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

Anonymous wrote:

Doesn’t sound like MGTOW mentality at all. Sounds like someone that is obsessed with women and makes up things to convince himself women are obsessed with him.

Beautiful women generally don’t frequent bars alone, and in the rare event they would, someone else would give her attention anyway. She really won’t care, she got a free drink, and you already gave her attention with the chat. The vast majority of women only want attention from strangers, nothing more. In the event you did try to ask her out, she’d bring up a boyfriend or just say she was being friendly and you are the one that is getting too excited. It’s nothing but a s~~~ test, but women are all about plausible deniability and being “chased”. They don’t care who does the chasing and they really don’t ever focus in one guy, unless you’re already having sex with her she can never bother thinking about you, and even then women have shown they are quick to find another guy and hit the c~~~ carousel.

The only women this would affect are post wall women, who I hardly classify as beautiful, and who would follow you right out the door and harass you, so you lose that way too.

Spot on. This wouldn’t affect a woman’s ego at all. She’s a young hot girl and is not going to have an existential crisis in the middle of the bar after realizing you left her. You are nothing. She doesn’t give a f~~~ about you. She got a free drink out of you and now its time to move on to a new c~~~.

[Anonymous 3]

boisdevie wrote:

3. “Doesn’t sound like MGTOW mentality at all. ” – so is this some club where we have a set of rules that we all have to follow? The words are ‘own way’. If anyone tries to straightjacket me into any way of thinking/behavoir/action then can just f~~~ right off.

This is a stupid argument. MGTOW means opting out of blue pill ideas and not pedestalizing women. It doesn’t mean you can do that and then just turn around and claim it’s what you chose so you’re MGTOW.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

RoyDal and phoenix are right. It is not the task of MGTOW members to train, teach, alter, or otherwise interact with women to change their behavior. If you do not interact with them, they are helpless at manipulating you to get resources from you. They need men more than men need them.

[MOWsince95Participant 1446]

Just ignore them altogether. Don’t spend 5 cents or 5 seconds on women. As if they literally don’t matter whatsoever.
That’s bursts their bubble more than anything.

If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

boisdevie wrote:

Go up to a beautiful woman in a bar. Buy her a drink. Have a chat. Then leave.
She’s left thinking – ‘what’s wrong with me? Why did he leave?’

No, she is left thinking when will I get another freebee and as for you, you just wasted 10/15 $

boisdevie wrote:

Whatever we can do to try to bring them back down to earth is surely a good thing. Anyone got any other good tactics?

No offence but, are you going down the mgtow or pua path ?

boisdevie wrote:

Not just to ignore them but to shock them?

As men, mgtow or not continue to drop out of the relations~~~s game, women all over the western world are starting to notice this phenomenon. As a whole, we do not need to shock those t~~~s any more because as they get older they will discover the horror of reality of their making. F~~~ them. Do not waste your energy.

Zero Tolerance

[the roadParticipant 3125]

The hot chick at the bar is relieved when the guy leaves after buying her a drink. She no longer has to deal with a desperate drooling mangina. She can then focus on getting her next free drink that is hopefully from a wealthy simp or a chad.

#MANOUT

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Look, what the leech thinks and if the leech realizes it’s a leech is irrelevant.
Detach it from your ass.Problem solved.

The only problems you should solve are your own.You’re just a man, you’re not a superhero.
That video that they linked to you says it all.You’re not the repair man, time to leave this problem alone to the people that caused it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

boisdevie wrote:

Go up to a beautiful woman in a bar. Buy her a drink. Have a chat. Then leave.

I totally get the IDEA and what Leykis means to imply, but let’s examine that from a MGHOW’s point of view.

• “a beautiful woman in a bar”

When was the last time you saw that? Do they really make those? Not even 2% of women would say they are “beautiful”. Women wear flip-flops & yoga pants to go grocery shopping. Going up to a beautiful woman in a bar would make you like every other pussy worshipper.

• “Buy her a drink”

Why? Because she’s “beautiful”? OK let’s pretend she’s “beautiful”. She can’t help being beautiful any more than a fugly bitch can help being fugly. Do you walk up to ugly women and pour drinks over their heads for being ugly? Of course not. Then don’t buy a drinks for a woman because she’s attractive either.

Throwing “the money” away is not even the issue.

• “Have a chat”

If she’s not fixated on her phone checking how many other idiots retweeted a photo of her t~~~.

• “Then leave”

Never go in the first place. I understand what Leykis means ( and the state of the average women’s over-inflated view of herself )

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Bringing women down to Earth is not your role or concern. It’s a mans responsibility to be the man he always wanted to be. “Fixing” broken women is not a part of that. Nature will take care of this automatically for you, and Leykis knows it too, and the beauty of it is… you don’t need to do a goddam thing.

Most women in social situations DESERVE to have you turn your back on them. But for God’s sake, man (and your own) don’t BUY her something for the privilege of doing it.

Nature pays women back for their attitudes.
It’s as certain as the sun will shine.

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To satisfy your question, if you’re in a social situation and you HAPPENED to be standing next to her…. ask her what she’s drinking. She will tell you, and THINK you’re going to buy her a drink. Wish her a pleasant evening and the point is made: She’s not interesting.

It’s up to a woman to BE INTERESTING. Most women think men should be interested in them, but really, they aren’t even interesting. So if she is not interesting, you turn your back and walk.

… and buy yourself a drink instead.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[globemasterParticipant 443]

Get a nice car,dress well,look good and dont look at any women, this is the best way to burst their bubble.

Just remain yourself and dont stare or even look at them. When women find a succesful man(in their view which is judged by cars and suit) walking without even slightly acknowledging them, their self esteem will take a great hit.

[Darth TyrannusParticipant 349]

globemaster wrote:

Get a nice car,dress well,look good and dont look at any women, this is the best way to burst their bubble.

Just remain yourself and dont stare or even look at them. When women find a succesful man(in their view which is judged by cars and suit) walking without even slightly acknowledging them, their self esteem will take a great hit.

THIS is far better to do original poster. Buying a woman a drink then leaving will actually make her happier because now she can hop right back onto Chad’s c~~~.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

I’d rather leave them alone to ask themselves what’s wrong with all the manginas pandering to them…

As has been said in this thread already, the best way to deal with narcissistic women in public places is to simply ignore them. There is nothing to be gained from spending our time, effort and money trying to ground them… no more than there is spending it trying to lay them. Both goals are equally meaningless.

If you’re still engaging in sexual intercourse with women and an opportunity literally falls into your lap, go ahead and take it, but don’t work for it. Likewise, if you find yourself conversing with a woman who you don’t want to have intercourse with, simply stop talking to her.

For example, last night I went out with my guy friend to a small bar where another friend of ours works and sat there and shot the s~~~ with him while we drank. Two women came up to the bar next to us, ordered drinks and injected themselves into the conversation.

Within moments, the “cute” one of the pair turns the conversation from the drink making processes we were discussing to how the weather is making her hair frizzy. I reached across her friend, took a handful of her hair in hand, scrunched it a few times and said “yes, it is frizzy.” then I finished my drink and my friend and I got up and went to another bar.

I call that having a little fun with an attention whore… give them just a tiny bit and then withdraw… but I’m sure moments later she’d forgotten it and I went on with my night without giving it a second thought until just now, and I did not have to buy her a drink.

We may not be able to avoid them entirely, but we don’t have to expend any more attention on them than we want and we certainly aren’t going to change them.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

This chat-drink-run-away tactic is like ringing someone’s doorbell and then running away. Except you’re paying to ring the doorbell.

And you’re not 12 years old any more.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

RoyDal wrote:

Why bother? Is it a good idea to humiliate anyone for humiliation’s sake alone? Ignore her completely and spend that money on yourself.

Agreed. Seeking out women just to f~~~ with them is a pointless pursuit. However the ability to immediately shut a woman down is still a useful skill in that it can be used to get them to leave you alone.

In other words, don’t approach women. Don’t buy them drinks. Just get on with your life. But what about when a woman approaches you and asks you to buy her a drink? That’s going to happen more and more as time goes on, and men need to be able to refuse in a way that makes her go away. This is especially true if she’s drunk.

My preferred method is to look her straight in the eye, then look her up and down, paying particular and obvious attention to her shoes. Then laugh a little and say: “No,” and immediately turn back to whatever I was already doing as if she doesn’t exist.

Works every time. You don’t have to waste money on buying her a drink and you don’t have to deal with a lot of whining and nagging and shaming and other female bulls~~~ for not buying her a drink. Problem solved.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

On Halloween I wore my Batman costume to the bar. I ordered a drink and walked out on the dance floor. Two nice pre-wallers started dancing with me and I teased them a little, they started asking who the f is this guy? I’m Batman, one of them grabbed me by the arm, they were fighting over me! I heard the bat signal and exited off the dance floor, gave them the I’ll be watching you look and went outside. Got more satisfaction from helping some drunk guy find his table back inside. The costume had fake muscles and everything, never get that kind of attention when I’m Bruce Wayne

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