How should I react when my Dad lectures me about being a gentleman?

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I dont understand how my Dad could be so blind about how women are in this day and age. He should know that just because a person has boobs and vagina doesnt mean they deserve special treatment. My sister is a bitch and when I didnt open the door for her my Dad got angry and gave me a lecture about being a gentleman. I didnt know how to react so I just told him “you got to the door before I did”.Then he said “no I didnt”. He then proceeded to give me another lecture about not talking back to him as if I was a f~~~ing kid. He must be delusional if he doesnt see and recognise that women and society in general is not the same as it used to be. Its like everything and everyone is going crazy all at once. Women are killing their unborn babies, religion is getting more cultish and weirder,terrorism is on the rise,the economy is only getting worse,and normal people just dont care because they are a bunch of nihilists. I just dont understand why he conforms to society’s old traditionalism and a cultish religion. I look around and I notice that the world is crashing down around me and I dont know why my Dad doesnt see the world the way it really is. How do I convince him that his religious philosophy isnt going to save the world? How do I convince him that rape culture is a lie told by a hate group called the tumbler feminists who are using men as scape goats? How do I convince him that I dont need to get married in order to have kids. How do I convince him to get a divorce and go his own way? What can I say or do to make him want to be more like me?

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[BryantParticipant 229]

it sounds as if he wont listen, just to stubborn. needs to learn the hard way obviously, sorry man but the way he sees it, hes your dad and theres no way his son could give him advice hes been around longer you know what im saying? i put up with this on a daily basis, not with my father, hes no longer with us, but with everyone in general i try to help younger guys than myself at school all the time by telling them mgtow knowledge, but no one wants to listen they are all just 2 damn thirsty for the vagina, manginas and white knights all the older ones that are married and not. it sucks wanting to help others and they just wont listen. just dont change man take the lectures and let em learn the hard way. or who knows you could convince him? ya never know

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[RoyDalParticipant]

My dad never listens to me, even about subjects on which I happen to a highly trained expert. It’s some kind of father-son thing.

Then there is the “backfire effect” which causes people to harden their opinions in the face of contrary facts. Even trained scientists do this, and they ought to know better if anyone does.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[crimsonshadowParticipant 5]

Your Dad may very well know the truth at a deeper level but through cognitive dissonance, is unable to let go. As a result, he has emotional insecurity that he is projecting on you. Best thing to do is shrug it off and minimize talk of women and contact with your sister. Above all else, don’t let them pull you back into the matrix.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

There are hundreds of video clips on YT showing wo-men beating on guys, acting like aholes, screaming fembots, hitting kids etc.

Drop a few on them in his inbox.

Hell send him stuff from mgtow archive.

He won’t change …. but evidence is evidence.

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

Convince him to get a divorce? Divorces steamroll men. If he’s still of the mindset where he tries to tell you how to treat women, he’d probably just up and re-marry anyway.

Tell him when he starts paying your mortgage, bills, and any debt you have, he can start telling you what to do.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

How do I convince him that his religious philosophy isnt going to save the world?

Put a salt and pepper shaker on the table in front of him.
Tell him to PRAY that they fall over.

If he can’t, then no amount of praying will “save the world” either. It’s so self-important. These people who think they can “save the world” and “save the whales”. We haven’t even learned to tale care of EACH OTHER yet. And these people think they can SAVE THE PLANET????

The bible says “thou shalt not kill”. But more men have been killed “in the name of God” than for any other reason. Religion will never “save the world”. Some will even tell you it is the root of all evil.

J.D Silvernail wrote:

How do I convince him that rape culture is a lie told by a hate group called the tumbler feminists who are using men as scape goats?

Tell him to give a woman $1000 and go out in the middle of Times Square in New York and begin offering the first 10,000 men she meets to PAY them to rape her. 10,000 out of 10,000 men would think she is out of her f~~~ing mind. If we lived in a “rape culture” at least 5001 men would be happy to rape her for free. It will never happen. In fact, it would be more likely that a man will report her to the police, and she will be taken away.

“Rape Culture” my ass.

J.D Silvernail wrote:

How do I convince him that I dont need to get married in order to have kids.

That’s an easy one. A woman doesn’t.

You tell him: “It’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent”.

Just that sentence alone will freak him out.
It’s a biological certainty that males of any species in the world can “have kids” and not even KNOW it.

J.D Silvernail wrote:

How do I convince him to get a divorce and go his own way?

You can’t. For some men, it’s cheaper to keep her.

J.D Silvernail wrote:

What can I say or do to make him want to be more like me?

MGTOW can’t be “convinced”. It’s a calling.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Keymaster wrote:

 

MGTOW can’t be “convinced”. It’s a calling.

I cannot even begin to explain how so deeply rooted in absolute truth this statement is…

 

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[RennieParticipant]

It’s a common problem, I have encountered many such men, they are usually +40 and seem to be wearing 1950’s glasses, because they can’t see things for how they really are and expect young men to go along with it, all the while  completely oblivious to the fact that things have changed and for the worse.

They are usually the biggest manginas or white knights that you will ever meet.

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Unfortunately, no one can be told what MGTOW is, you have to see it for yourself.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Rennie you are right. My Dad is over 40. How did you know?

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Rennie wrote:

I have encountered many such men, they are usually +40 and seem to be wearing 1950’s glasses

I am 47 and don’t look at the world through rose colored glasses…….any more.

However, for men in my age bracket and older the term “Future Shock” may apply here.  Too much social change in a short period of time.  Many people of my age or older doggedly cling to the traditional values that we were indoctrinated in by the “Silent Generation”.  Adherence to social norms within the community, work place, and marriage was “the way things were done”.  We are currently calling today’s generation the “Millennials” mostly because we have already gone through Generation X and Generation Y.  Generation Z has just too much finality to it.

I graduated high school in 1985.  From time to time my father would insist (when he wasn’t sleeping in until 11 am) that I wear slacks and a tie to school.  He would even put Vitalis, hair oil, in my hair and tell me that this is the way men are supposed to look when they leave the house.  He also resented my taking a back pack for my books to school and all but insisted that I carry my books in a briefcase.

How things looked and adherence to social norms.  Anything outside of this often makes people uncomfortable, and there is often the belief that if we just stick to these things, the ship will just turn around.

Sort of like the old indian (Native American to you PC’ers) that still believes that the buffalo are coming back.

Future Shock

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Helen be DamnedParticipant 480]

It’s sad that my father, who may be the smartest man I’ve ever met, doesn’t have the wisdom to see how much s~~~ I have to go through if some c~~~ feels…. well, like a c~~~. The same man who warned me not to even hang out with girls that were under age when I was 18, because it was stupid. Sadly he also was naïve enough to try and sell the concept of contraception, knowing exactly how the numbers work.

"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures

[USMC_315Participant 6]

Just nod and smile, your dad will never take your word over his. Not saying he’s right or that he will always think that his current thought process is correct, but he’ll never accept your views if it’s different. My pops never listens to me about this s~~~ neither

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