How should i deal with my over bearing parents?

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I’m 18 years old. I’m still in High School and they still treat me like a kid. They won’t let me go anywhere without permission. They always tell me not to go into town when I’m at a friend’s house. They tell me what kind of girls to go out with (the prudent ones I don’t like). They tell me to believe in god (there is no proof that such a god exists). They tell me never to have sex unless I’m married (which will never happen because I’m a MGTOW and proud). My fun meter is pegged and I need advice. How should I deal with them?

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Respect  and honor your parents wishes…you are not on your own….

I know that is not what you expected to hear..but it is the truth…You are of age to be considered adult, but they are still providing for your needs…Deal with them by having respect..You are not far from some very important decisions…

College?  trade school? strait to work? military?     Are just a few of Your choices.  Until you leave your parents house you are MGTOW wanna be….They got you this far. least you could do is honor their wishes for a little longer and be respectful…

(there is no proof that such a god exists)

you can provide no proof he does not

I won’t tell you What to believe or not to believe about religion, that is for you to decide for yourself..but I will say to keep an open mind about religious matters…and don’t ridicule and attack others for expressing their religious beliefs…

They tell me never to have sex unless I’m married (which will never happen because I’m a MGTOW and proud)

There is no conflict because they are telling you not to have sex and you don’t plan on having sex…

Pride is the first baby steps of arrogance….What have you accomplished in your 18 years to be so proud of?

There are men here who were beaten and humiliated as a child.. I have read their stories.. When you have that to compare it to.. Is your situation really so bad?

It sounds to me as if your parents are worried about your future. That tells me they care about your well being…

I hate to use these next three words but “suck it up” and learn some respect and appreciation for the people who obviously love you…    One day in the future you will face the death of your parents…My father has been dead for over ten years and I still miss him…But I can look back and be proud he taught me respect…

 

 

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I agree with harpomason. Gut it out until you fly the nest. It won’t be that long, and you have your whole life ahead of you.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

So you’re saying that I should suck it up for seven weeks and then join the Marine Corps as planned. By the way I actually do plan on having sex with random women and also I have been beaten and humiliated by my parents when I was little(not that it matters). Also Just because I disagree with them on every thing that they tell me doesn’t mean I don’t respect them. And furthermore I’m guessing you don’t really want to know what I’ve accomplished but I will tell you anyway. I got a 46 on the asvab. I got to the rank of Eagle Scout. I went to the 77th annual Alabama Boys State. I got an A in a dual enrolment college class. Also like I said I’m joining the Marine Corps so my parents will most likely be alive after I get killed in combat(assuming I don’t survive).

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

It’s their house, they call the shots unfortunately.

The rents these days are so odious that I would advise riding out living them for as long as possible. It is not fun, granted, but the alternative is living around the dredge of the populace.

The military is a terrible deal; I would only advise that if one was literally sleeping on the street. In other words, if one was not sleeping in a car, I would not advise exercising that option because one who sleeps in a car is at least a free man.

Finally, based upon your biographical notes, it seems you have been conditioned to be a good little disposable male by parents, scouts, Southern culture, &c. That needs to be banished as soon as possible; everything you have been taught, presume that it is wrong and figure things out for yourself. I saw what it did to people who were too dumb to think for themselves, so consider yourself lucky that you were bright enough to seek counsel.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I have been beaten and humiliated by my parents when I was little(not that it matters)

It matters. I don’t approve of abuse and find it hard to believe that someone who suffered it from their parents would still have respect for them… I would have a hard time with respecting someone who abused me…so kudos to you for that..+1..and anytime I ask a question I will check back for an answer…

I got a 46 on the asvab. I got to the rank of Eagle Scout. I went to the 77th annual Alabama Boys State. I got an A in a dual enrolment college class.

Wow your farther along than baby steps towards arrogance  That is quite a lode of accomplishment….(sarcasm)  Those accomplishments are the conditioning highwind was speaking about…your being proud to have been indoctrinated.

Also like I said I’m joining the Marine Corps so my parents will most likely be alive after I get killed in combat(assuming I don’t survive).

This has not been accomplished yet, and should be re-thought..Not an admirable goal looking towards your demise at 18 years old….Open your mind to choosing another path, Please, I am not being sarcastic this time…Just consider a few other options besides signing a blank check to a government for an amount up to and including your life….

Write  fifteen things you really like to do on paper….think about choosing something that’s fun and you love to do anyways..My father said choose a job you love doing and you will never work a day in your life…You asked for advice… Mine is from 52 years of my own meandering experience including one hitch in the military….

 

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Obi C.Participant 17]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

So you’re saying that I should suck it up for seven weeks and then join the Marine Corps as planned. By the way I actually do plan on having sex with random women and also I have been beaten and humiliated by my parents when I was little(not that it matters). Also Just because I disagree with them on every thing that they tell me doesn’t mean I don’t respect them. And furthermore I’m guessing you don’t really want to know what I’ve accomplished but I will tell you anyway. I got a 46 on the asvab. I got to the rank of Eagle Scout. I went to the 77th annual Alabama Boys State. I got an A in a dual enrolment college class. Also like I said I’m joining the Marine Corps so my parents will most likely be alive after I get killed in combat(assuming I don’t survive).

Wow you really got defensive there…okay so a few points here for you buddy:

1. harpomason- never at any point said that you weren’t respectful.  You asked 

J.D Silvernail wrote:

How should I deal with them?

and he responded with “respect and honor their wishes.” Which, for the record, I’m in 100% agreement with. Believe me when I say NO ONE will ever love you more than you love yourself…except YOUR PARENTS.  Most parents don’t do things  or say things to their kids because they hate them…but rather because they wan’t whats best for them and because EVERYTHING you’ve been through or are going to go through they have already experienced.  Just keep that in mind…you probably think I’m dead wrong…but believe me daddy has most likely been around the block and mommy ain’t so innocent.  Heed their word it will do you more good than harm.

2. The military might be the right place for you…but before you decided to jump on that train, ask yourself these two things: “Why am I doing this?” and “Is it worth laying down my life for it?” If the answer to that is an emotion and not because you truly want to…then its probably not worth dying for. You are young and, God willing, have a long life ahead of you so don’t jump into things because you just want to “get away.”  If you’re going to make a commitment be sure to do it for the right reasons and be logical about it. Allowing your decision to be guided by emotions such as frustration will only lead to disappointment.

3. If you’re going to ask for advice be willing to read and either accept/reject it non-judgmentally. Men won’t sugarcoat it for you. They’re going to give you their opinion straight up. If you agree then great, accept it and learn from it, if not that’s fine too…but don’t give a person attitude because they were kind enough to lend you some of their wisdom, just acknowledge it and ignore it.

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

J.D.-

 

I had a pretty similar upbringing to what you’ve described as your own. Religious, strict, and overbearing, and I stopped believing in theology as fact FAR earlier than 18. Hell, they were still trying to be a little too involved in my relationships even in my thirties. That s~~~ is their s~~~, not my s~~~. I just learned to deny them access to certain parts of my adult life. I can also relate to childhood abuse (though it was not my parents doing the abusing, it was my grandfather’s brother-in-law) and can sympathize with you on a direct level there.

I also joined the Marine Corps to fly away from the nest after I graduated from high school. Allow me to be brutally honest with you for your own benefit: first, a score of 46 on the ASVAB isn’t anything to brag about. 50 is the mean, so you’re below average. Going in with a score like that, what kind of vocational options do you think you’ll have in the fleet? S~~~. JOB. Will any skills you learn with a s~~~ job in the Marines translate to success in civilian life after you’ve completed your contract, or could they hinder your chances in the job market when you’re competing with experienced and educated people? Second, and pay very close attention to what I’m about to tell you here: YOUR RECRUITER IS FULL OF S~~~. In case I wasn’t crystal on that, let me say again: YOUR RECRUITER IS FULL OF S~~~. Becoming a military recruiter is a simple two-step process: 1. Learn to be full of s~~~, then 2. Be full of s~~~. Anyone that tells you that your recruiter is not full of s~~~ is recruiting (and therefore full of s~~~). Think your fun meter is pegged now? Wait until you’re under the watch of 3 men in campaign covers. You WILL be longing for your mother and father’s leniency within hours of standing on yellow footprints. If you want to go your own way and experience some freedom, putting yourself on a collision course to be the lowest-ranking member of an organization who has spent the better part of the last 229 years perfecting violent psychological abuse and manipulation isn’t exactly a solid plan. Another fact you should be aware of before going to MEPS- Atheists are not protected under UCMJ in the same manner that religious people are. You will be forced to recite and sign an oath to god in order to enlist. You will also be both pressured and offered incentives to marry the first uniform-chaser you encounter. Everything I’ve told you here is from direct, first-hand experience.

My advice to you is to start searching for a full-time job before you graduate, enroll in a few classes at a community college to test yourself and see where your career interests really are, and move out of your parents home once you’ve saved enough for move-in costs in a place you can afford (a good rule of thumb is that your monthly living expenses should not exceed 33% of your monthly income). Many states offer free community and junior college tuition now if you attend in the same state in which you graduated from high school, so have one on us taxpayers. It costs us less to pay for one person’s associate’s degree than it does to fully train one Marine anyway.

Whatever you decide to do, just be as informed as you can before making important decisions like this one.

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

(there is no proof that such a god exists)

you can provide no proof he does not I won’t tell you What to believe or not to believe about religion, that is for you to decide for yourself..but I will say to keep an open mind about religious matters…and don’t ridicule and attack others for expressing their religious beliefs… 

 

 

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

Harpo,

In this case the burden of proof is on the one making a claim that god does indeed exist, not the skeptic. J.D. does not need to disprove to himself or anyone the non-existence of your god to be an atheist. If you hold yourself to your own argument, you will in turn need to provide proof that Odin, Osiris, Zeus, Vishnu, Quetzalcoatl, etc… do not exist and that the Abrahamic creator/sustainer/destroyer/judge god does exist. His claim that your god does not exist base on lack of evidence that it does is his personal right and no more of an attack or ridicule of your religion than is your claim that -the god you believe in exists and others do not- is an attack or ridicule of Asartru, Hinduism, Paganism, Mayan Shamanism, etc… based on the lack of belief that you hold in those gods.

[MrDextroParticipant 111]

Former Marine (0621, Field Radio Operator, 2007-2011), not to burst your bubble bud but the Marine Corps is not what you think! Bootcamp-MCT(pog mos)-school-fleet, when you get to the fleet you hit a WALL/ stuck in purgatory for the next 3.5 years. Once in the fleet you will; check into your unit, get a BKS room, PT, go to the “shop” until 16:30 (4:30pm) play f~~~-f~~~ games; usually evolve around the BKS, field day on thursday’s, so don’t take a s~~~ in your room for 24 hours, maybe go to the field once every few months, do paper work, deploy to a FOB (don’t worry you wont “die” in combat, you have a higher risk of “dying” at home) and play more f~~~-f~~~ games. USMC will make you p~~~ed off day in and day out 24/7. In the fleet I went on (1) just ONE 21 mile hump with a MEU, shot my Rifle at the range TWICE, and shot the 240g, saw and 50cal ONCE, on a range on the FOB only because I was an RO, for the firing line.

OH well, what do I know, have fun in the USMC! at least you will be out of the house and on your own! your only going to want to EAS the day you get to the fleet, (key term: F~~~-F~~~ games). anyhow put your paychecks back! don’t buy a car, be a BKS-rat who cares! use your GI-BILL!

[AttonParticipant]

“I’m 18 years old. I’m still in High School and they still treat me like a kid.”

I wounder why that is the case.

“They won’t let me go anywhere without permission.”

Shut take your freedom and give yourself permission.

 

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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