How many men killed themselves because of marriage?

[AutoliteParticipant]

wizer wrote:

Getting divorced is sort of like pushing the reset button.

I’m reminded of a woman who I once asked if it was fair that in a divorce she should get everything her forty-five year old husband work for his entire life to acquire.

She replied “Well he can just start all over again”. I guess that would make sense if you know you’re earning power will peak again at around age 87…

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

wizer wrote:

I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

Good. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

I therefore conclude that you can only be tuna, and I held you in contempt for every man here that was driven to despair by unspeakable injustices.

+1!

wizer wrote:

You start all over again. It blows, but you do it. Unless you’ve got such a mental deficiency that you think blowing your head open with a shotgun is preferrable to scrounging up a meal.

WFT?

wizer wrote:

I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

WTF?

[Anonymous 3]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Good. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[Anonymous 0]

wizer wrote:

I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Good riddance c~~~.

lol You got the message twice.

[Anonymous 42]

[GrumpyParticipant]

wizer wrote:

This is just another one of those “victim mentality” threads where it’s everyone else’s fault: The courts, the bad wife, the guy she’s having an affair with, the ungrateful kids who don’t speak to dad anymore because they’ve been brainwashed or whatever.

wizer wrote:

In other words, suck it up, accept that life isn’t fair, control what you can and let the rest go and do what you can with what you’ve got left.

Going around blaming everyone else is a waste of expensive time and energy.

wizer wrote:

Don’t know yet, still finding my way around. I just made an introductory post titled “don’t know if I belong here”. I joined because I read a few posts and felt inclined to give my input because of the misconceptions contained within them. I’m impulsive like that.

wizer wrote:

I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

Well that about sums this person up for me.

May you live in interesting times.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 3]

Grumpy wrote:

Well that about sums this person up for me.

“Person”?

Minimizing men’s grievances? Check.
Telling men to man up? Check.
Disrespecting every men in the place? Check.
Having no respect to DEAD men? Double check.
Felling entitled to p~~~ men in place it just joined? Check.
Preaching like it knows better than everyone else? Check.

That is TUNA! Obvious female traits.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Anonymous wrote:

Grumpy wrote:

Well that about sums this person up for me.

“Person”?

Minimizing men’s grievances? Check.
Telling men to man up? Check.
Disrespecting every men in the place? Check.
Having no respect to DEAD men? Double check.
Felling entitled to p~~~ men in place it just joined? Check.
Preaching like it knows better than everyone else? Check.

That is TUNA! Obvious female traits.

I agree, I was thinking along the same lines. Smells fishy. Never met a man who has been through divorce who was this coldly indifferent to the suffering of their fellow men.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

wizer wrote:

Unless you’ve got such a mental deficiency that you think blowing your head open with a shotgun is preferrable to scrounging up a meal.

F~~~ you.

My brother did exactly that, and I would not call him mentally deficient. Your callous attitude towards male suicide is appalling.

wizer wrote:

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Bad reason to join MGTOW. Read the forums to LEARN from the experiences of wise men, not to PREACH.

I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

This is a site for honourable men, not bitch ass trolls like you.

The answer, is no.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

F~~~ you.

My brother did exactly that, and I would not call him mentally deficient. Your callous attitude towards male suicide is appalling.

Hi, Brother, I just wanted to say that I’m sorry for your lost and I do hope that you don’t give a s~~~ about what he says, he was not in your brother’s shoes and has no right to judge him or any other man who reached to such a horrible position.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

wizer wrote:

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I’ve been on this site for a day. Long enough for me to realize I’ve got a heck of a lot more to offer the membership than I’ll ever learn from most of them.

Spoken like a true Douche Bag. GTFO.

The men that end up throwing in the towel wouldn’t have done it under other circumstances. When their lives are shredded by a witch and they are left homeless or damn near it, their kids are taken away and these men are jailed for not paying what they cannot afford- this becomes unbearable for many. I know if they hang in there things will get better eventually – but its a decision made in the darkest hour.

I just hope that ANYONE here that is contemplating it – REACH OUT! Send me a PM – I’ll always be here and will help.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

CombatRoll wrote:

Whenever I see a story on the news where a man has a stand-off with the police or when I see that a man has murdered his wife or kids and then himself I automatically assume, “Yep – he was getting f~~~ed and he SNAPPED”.

Oh yeah…I had a buddy growing up and his dad flipped out and killed his mom. She had just filed for divorce, and I was a kid at the time and didn’t know all the exact details of it, but I do remember he was out of the house and not allowed to come over and hadn’t really seen my buddy or his brothers since the divorce thing started. Looking back at it now, it was probably false accusations as my buddy or his brothers never showed any signs of abuse or badmouthed their dad that I could ever remember prior to this going down.

To make matters worse they weren’t a particularly wealthy family. They could afford their house combined, but if post-split the court was going to set it up so she could keep the house until the youngest was 18(was probably 11-12 at the time) that meant the dad was going to get f~~~ed so hard he’d be hard pressed to afford a small s~~~ty apartment. In other words pretty much up until he was around 50 he would have no net worth and hand over pretty much everything to the ex.

The icing on the cake…the mom had a new f~~~ buddy like a week after he had been booted. She probably had him before she even filed for divorce but was just a bit more sneaky about it. So what the poor guy do? He walked in the house he had been paying for for the last 15ish years(and probably still was) that he could no longer legally step foot in and would probably be getting f~~~ed out of all the equity in it, walked upstairs to “his” bedroom where his wife was in his bed with her new f~~~ buddy, blew them both away, and drove off. I don’t know if he originally planned the whole thing out or just f~~~ing flipped when he saw the new f~~~ buddy in his bed and realized after the fact he f~~~ed up hard and was going to jail, but he ended up shooting himself too before they caught him.

Looking back at it knowing what I know now, the dad was probably the real victim here. I’m by no means condoning violence against anyone…but the guy was obviously legally getting f~~~ed out of everything he had worked for in life while his “loving” wife was f~~~ing other dudes in the bed he paid for, that was in the house he paid for, right down the hall from his kids, all while being pushed from a middle class lifestyle into a life of poverty even though he was still working just as hard at the same job that he always had which provided a middle class lifestyle. I’m honestly surprised more divorces don’t end like this. I’m not a violent person and don’t have a criminal record(just like my buddies dad prior to this)…but I do know if someone was f~~~ing me over so hard I was pondering suicide, causing sever harm to that person would be on my list of actions before I caused any harm to myself. Well to be fair my plan would involve trying to get away with it before suicide. Just one more reason in a long list of reasons to never marry.

[ABParticipant 762]

Not quite the same but I had both a friend and my brother-in-law take their own lives over refused access to their children and no financial means to pursue it through a stacked legal system.

I watched it slowly destroy them both until they both, within a 3 month period, made the tragic decision to close the door permanently on their heartaches.

When I was going through court over denied child access myself, I seriously contemplated suicide too. The thought of living life with the knowledge that you have a child who will grow up believing you failed them is the most devastating feeling ever. The stigma attached to absentee father’s further burdens the conscience; after all, for you to be denied access, you must be a monster surely?

I came close, but thankfully I found strength to fight through it.

My heart breaks for every father who was broken to the point of no return by a corrupt system.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Hi, Brother, I just wanted to say that I’m sorry for your lost and I do hope that you don’t give a s~~~ about what he says, he was not in your brother’s shoes and has no right to judge him or any other man who reached to such a horrible position.

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Thanks man, I appreciate it. I don’t give a s~~~ what trolls say, but my intent was to perhaps educate this idiot that some of us have peronally experienced this in our lives, and for people like me it’s not an internet article but real life. It happened 16 years ago, and believe me it messes up a family bad (and permanently). I will always do anything I can to stop another man from doing this. If any of you guys are on the edge, pm me any time at all.

This guy is a troll or tuna and should be punted.

The answer, is no.

[ABParticipant 762]

Beer wrote:

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Preach to this.

During my darkest days I was haunted by romanticised scenarios of revenge. And the most difficult part was how perfectly rational it seemed in my head. I write songs as a coping mechanism and lyrics relating to this were:

“Now I hate who you’ve made me.
I feel myself change on the daily.
Growing darker every time you betray me.
Slowly taking back every thing you ever gave me.
In need of a recourse.
Hate make’s me think the darkest thoughts.
Makes me contemplate a harsh resort.
Afraid of what I’ll do if I’m forced by the courts.
I’m seeking justice, in need of redemption,
I know what I need to secure my contentment.
Otherwise I’m void of resentment.
She destroyed the empathy that served as prevention.
And I try to deny this.
But I see it crystal clear behind my eyelids.
In the presence of the sirens –
I feel like I could justify the violence.
And that’s what scares me most.
That someday I’ll retaliate when she provokes.
Calm as my hands tighten round her throat.
Looking in her eyes as she starts to choke.
I see a stranger in reflections.
Fixating on his own imperfections.
Sinking deeper in depression.
And struggling to cope handling his aggression.”

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

CombatRoll wrote:

Spoken like a true Douche Bag. GTFO.

The men that end up throwing in the towel wouldn’t have done it under other circumstances. When their lives are shredded by a witch and they are left homeless or damn near it, their kids are taken away and these men are jailed for not paying what they cannot afford- this becomes unbearable for many. I know if they hang in there things will get better eventually – but its a decision made in the darkest hour.

I just hope that ANYONE here that is contemplating it – REACH OUT! Send me a PM – I’ll always be here and will help.

I agree. I know guys who have lost hard in divorce. They literally walked away with debt and child support pretty much guaranteeing they will have no net worth into their 50s. I’d hate to lose anything in a divorce but its definitely a totally different game when the divorce leaves both parties with some assets and the dude makes enough that he can still have a decent standard of living even after child support compared to a divorce where the guy is walking away with debt and payments to the ex that pretty much ensure he will live a life of poverty and have to work til the day he dies. I don’t think its exactly an easy pill to swallow when divorce literally crushes you into poverty while princess is out f~~~ing other guys before the divorce is even finalized and has relatively no change in her standard of living.

[TwistParticipant]

I would go tuna fishing with you guys anytime.

Just saying.

And Beer – those kind of stories? All I can say is F~~~.

[Anonymous 42]

Amazing how one troll can open a whole can of truth worms!

^^^^These are the times we live in, where starting over is abandoned and adopted in it’s place is the philosophy of NOT starting at all!

Asshole c~~~ can run headlong into a woodchipper for all I care!

[Anonymous 0]

When my boys were much younger the father of boys about their age shot himself in the head after his wife served him with divorce papers. They lived about 3 or 4 blocks away from our house. He was sitting on their bed when he did it. A few days later, on garbage day, the mattress was at the curb in front of their house. I had to drive past that house every day on my way to/from work.

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