How is MGTOW like for senior guys?

[FreedomGuyParticipant 51]

I am in my 40s and going my own way not too long ago. I wonder what life is like for senior mgtows in their mid 50s and above?

Many non-mgtows told me that i will be alone and lonely in my old age and it seems like a negative thing.

I want to understand if there is a way for MGTOW in their senior years to lead a fulfilling life.

Personally, i think it is important for a MGTOW to be financially free in their senior years. It also includes sufficiently-insured and having good health. I am not sure if this is enough to be fulfilling in the senior years.

Any input from senior mgtow is appreciated. Thanks in advanced.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

FreedomGuy wrote:

Many non-mgtows told me that i will be alone and lonely in my old age and it seems like a negative thing.

As Tom Leykis says, there is a BIG difference between being alone and being lonely. As a MGTOW, yes I am all alone, BUT I am not lonely. The reason why I am not lonely is because I am 100% focused on my passion in Electronics Engineering and at the end of the day, there is absolutely NO ROOM for loneliness. Think about Nikola Tesla. He dedicated his entire life towards Electrical Engineering.

They say this s~~~ to you because they THEMSELVES need the validation from a woman.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

BTW FreedomGuy,

Welcome, beers are in the cooler.

Can you please do an introduction about yourself, in the introduction section of the forums? We would like to know where you are coming from and what made you decide to go your own way.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AutoliteParticipant]

FreedomGuy wrote:

I am in my 40s and going my own way not too long ago. I wonder what life is like for senior mgtows in their mid 50s and above?

I’m VERY comfortable with my MGTOW life. But TBH, I’m a loner by nature so I just don’t ever get lonely anyway…

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Autolite wrote:

I’m VERY comfortable with my MGTOW life

Exactly! In fact, being in a relations~~~ makes people LONELY.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[narwhalParticipant]

FreedomGuy wrote:

I want to understand if there is a way for MGTOW in their senior years to lead a fulfilling life.

Why wouldn’t there be? What exactly is it about being married as a senior would be more life fulfilling? A single man has complete control over his time and money, while a married man has given that over to a woman.

Why would you be lonely? That statement only makes sense if people choses to ignore you because you aren’t married. Do you want to associate with such people anyway?

Ok. Then do it.

[GrumpyParticipant]

My only real complaint would be that a lot of people, regardless of gender, “expect” me to cough up my time, attention, labour, and cash and prizes on demand because I am not married nor have children at home and have been “retired” at a reasonably young age.
Those expectations and demands tend to irritate the hell out of me until 1 September to 1 December when the whole world can f~~~ off because that is hunting season and MY time for me to rejuvenate my spiritual/emotional/intellectual/physical well being. Anyone that tries to get in the way of that is deleted from my life.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[joetechParticipant]

I recently returned from a MGTOW road trip. I had dinner with a couple of MGTOW brothers at a beach restaurant on the Atlantic, took a boat ride with a MGTOW brother off St. Catherine’s Island and enjoyed great food and great beer at a place that boasts alligator on the menu. Does that sound lonely to you?

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[OldBillParticipant]

FreedomGuy wrote:

I wonder what life is like for senior mgtows in their mid 50s and above?

Absolutely wonderful.

I do what I want when I want to. My only constraints are my time, my work schedule, and my budget.

Case in point. One Saturday back in June I was finishing my coffee and reading the paper when I came across an article about a museum exhibit I found interesting. Within an hour, I had done the dishes, brushed my teeth, and left the house.

Not wanting to drive into Boston, I drove to a local bus line, bought an open return ticket, and left the driving to them. Had a nice comfortable trip to South Station while enjoying another coffee and reading another paper. I took the T to the museum in question and spent a couple of hours there. A leisurely lunch at Faneuil Hall followed.

After that I visited the USS Constitution in drydock, walked around the Common, listened to part of a free concert, and decided to stay in town for the Sox game. I checked into a motel – without luggage – watched batting practice, had a quick supper at a nearby pub, and then watched the Sox lose to the Angels.

I then had a couple of drinks, turned in early, got up early the next morning, and took the bus back home.

Do you think I could have done any of that if I were shackled to a c~~~?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

FreedomGuy wrote:

Many non-mgtows told me that i will be alone and lonely in my old age and it seems like a negative thing.

And they told you to Man Up, and that Not All Women Are Like That, and that you’ll meet the perfect woman as soon as you aren’t looking for her, and that you’ll live happily ever after.

It’s just another shaming tactic. They are afraid that they made the wrong choice. Or they KNOW they made the wrong choice.

Learn to enjoy being alone and you’ll never feel lonely. Watch a ball game, pick up a good book, learn something. I actually plan my weekends now when I get a chance so that I have one of the two days where I don’t talk to anyone. Ear buds if I go to the gym. I spend that day cleaning, watch a ball game, and cooking for the next week. It doesn’t work out every weekend, but I really enjoy that day when I get it.

And by the way, f~~~ you and get off my lawn for calling me old you young whipper snapper!

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 13]

OldBill wrote:

Do you think I could have done any of that if I were shackled to a c~~~?

Even if you could, how miserable would that experience have been.

Dealing with her incessant complaining or bitching about something or other.

Watching her face buried in her smartphone the whole time, likely bitching you out to the hive.

The last ten years of my marriage were as lonely and miserable as F~~~.

NEVER AGAIN.

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

To OP…

You don’t have to be alone to go your own way. You don’t have to do what everyone else does, thus ‘going your own way’. You don’t even have to swear off women.

Read a bit more around here and find out what our more experienced members have to say…

And be yourself, do whatever floats your boat.

The options are out there.

And for the members… just in case, since I’ve never, ever been first, and have been slow on the uptake many times…. upon first reading I thought ‘tuna?’ But am not at all confident in that.. so probably way off base.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

OldBill wrote:

Case in point. One Saturday back in June I was finishing my coffee and reading the paper when I came across an article about a museum exhibit I found interesting. Within an hour, I had done the dishes, brushed my teeth, and left the house.

Not wanting to drive into Boston, I drove to a local bus line, bought an open return ticket, and left the driving to them. Had a nice comfortable trip to South Station while enjoying another coffee and reading another paper. I took the T to the museum in question and spent a couple of hours there. A leisurely lunch at Faneuil Hall followed.

After that I visited the USS Constitution in drydock, walked around the Common, listened to part of a free concert, and decided to stay in town for the Sox game.

You live around Boston? I’m going there with the gfAug 18-19. Going to see a lot of the stuff like the ship, the stadium, Fort Independence, etc. Going to do a “Fallout 4” tour, LOL & take pics.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

It’s important to have a lot of friends, a lot of things to do, and a good relationship with your family. It keeps me busy and out of trouble. Trouble that can only come by getting too close to women.

[joetechParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

You live around Boston?

One of my nieces graduated from Wheelock College in Boston. I had a great time visiting and riding on the MTA. Didn’t see Charlie, though.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[OldBillParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

You live around Boston?

A couple hours north.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

FreedomGuy wrote:

I am in my 40s and going my own way not too long ago. I wonder what life is like for senior mgtows in their mid 50s and above?

Many non-mgtows told me that i will be alone and lonely in my old age and it seems like a negative thing.

I want to understand if there is a way for MGTOW in their senior years to lead a fulfilling life.

Personally, i think it is important for a MGTOW to be financially free in their senior years. It also includes sufficiently-insured and having good health. I am not sure if this is enough to be fulfilling in the senior years.

Any input from senior mgtow is appreciated. Thanks in advanced.

It’s easier and better. As you age you tend to like and accept yourself more. You don’t struggle with life as much since you have been up and down so many times you get used to the highs and lows and don’t expect anything to last. Woman still want your resources yet they are easier to avoid. Old bachelors tend to be left alone more. I’m never lonely. In fact I get really irritated if I get 3 texts in weekend I was spending all by myself. I’m always doing something and I don’t like to stop to answer my phone.

The risks are the same but for different reasons. This meme sums up senior MGTOW risks well.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Anonymous wrote:

OldBill wrote:

Do you think I could have done any of that if I were shackled to a c~~~?

Even if you could, how miserable would that experience have been.

Dealing with her incessant complaining or bitching about something or other.

Watching her face buried in her smartphone the whole time, likely bitching you out to the hive.

The last ten years of my marriage were as lonely and miserable as F~~~.

NEVER AGAIN.

I absolutely agree with this. I’ve told many guys since my divorce and I’ve said it on here. The last few years of my marriage was the loneliest time of my life. It was awful. Nothing more lonely than being with someone you were told should always have your back and finding out they couldn’t give less of a s~~~ about you. When I first saw that famous Robin Williams quote it was on the sidebar of mgtow.com. It’s powerful and true.

But this is a good thread, OP. I’m 41 myself and I admit I have pondered it as well. But I think the older MGTOW are blazing the trail. The way things are going MGTOW is going to become more and more normalized and accepted. I have my one good friend I’ve mentioned on here before. He’s divorced now too but he is the only one who stood by me and was supportive through the worst time of my life and I tried to do the same to him. We are planning to take some trips together with our kids and when we’re older we’ve talked about doing stuff together after we retire. And hopefully add some more male friends along the way. So won’t be alone.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

I’ve been thinking about this (in my early 40’s myself). As I see it there are a few options

1. Remarry. Be “happy” 5 yrs, then live semi-miserably for another 35 yrs with a nagging wife. Die.

2. Go MGTOW.
2.1. Be a happy MGTOW for another 40 yrs. Die
2.2. Be happy MGTOW for some 30 yrs. Be miserable and bitter for a few yrs in your old age. Die.

It is not a hard choice, is it? I’ll take my chances on those few years of miserable bitterness any day, instead of the guaranteed 35 semi-miserable ones.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Anonymous 14]

I am in my 40’s as well, I have zero interest in marriage or having kids. I dodged a few bullets when I was younger, managed to not get tied down to anything, and my future is wide open. I get to do what I want to do when I want to do it, and it is awesome. OldBill’s story here is how life should be for all of us all the time.

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