How I ended up here

[AristotleParticipant 48]

I’m not going to go through my whole life story, but I was somewhat MGTOW most of my life. I had some short times where I had a relationship or two, but I was always clear that I never wanted children and never wanted to get married.

It may sound callous, but I just never found women overall as worthy of time.

So, about 2 years ago, I met my NAWALT. It felt like a match made in heaven, and I was giddy as a schoolgirl. Things moved forward at a breakneck pace, I did everything I could, including blowing through life savings, cashing in stocks, and not too long after we met, we were finally living together after she pulled an “I’m pregnant”. That’s when it started.

I’ve always worked hard, and a lot. However, now I wasn’t supposed to work more than the bare minimum, spend all my time on her needs, and I was supposed to do most of the housework, the outside work, there were constant demands for new things, trips to take. Tantrums, accusations of me being abusive, while I was being kept up all night for fights, I was being pushed into walls, berated for not being a mindreader. She wanted carte blanchè for her needs, if she said that it was important to her. She never paid for anything except some small gifts early on.

I was struggling, but I did not want my child to grow up with her, or without me, so I stuck it out, for 9.5 months. I don’t think I’ll ever forget how she told me that she must have miscarried. No emotion, no empathy, and when I’ve told people about it, I’ve made a joke of “Hey, honey, can you get eggs, milk, and I miscarried”

I tried for a month and a half after that, moved out, moved back in and finally moved out for the last time. She went to stay with her parents. Papers are on the way, and I expect the divorce will be final sometime this year.

In the aftermath of what happened, I started asking a lot of questions about what I’ve always been told and raised to believe.

As I grew up in one of the most feminized Scandinavian countries, I was always told that women are sugar and spice, men are bastards.

Anger is bad, tolerance is good.
Domestic abuse is when a man hits a woman.
Not giving your money away to your partner is financial abuse.

I did everything society says a good husband should do, and it made me miserable. It also made me feel like I was the one failing, and that I was the problem.

So, I started looking around the web for information. And I landed on a book by Dr. Tara Palmatier and Paul Elam, “Say goodbye to crazy”. The book was immensely helpful and for the first time I understood that I wasn’t the first and wouldn’t be the last.

I’d read some PUA books a little bit about 10 – 12 years ago, but I hadn’t stayed up to date at all with what was going on, so I was quite surprised to see how much this little corner on the web had grown.

Anyway, that’s about as cogent as I can make it right now. I’m glad to have found this forum. I have to give credit to the design, the site looks beautiful.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Welcome Aristotle.

Your introduction is excellent and I enjoyed your writing. Your insights and perspective are appreciated.

Yes, the topic is tragic and painful, but you are not alone. From my viewpoint, you dodged a bullet and the experience helped bring you to MGTOW.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Welcome to the site.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

That is why a nawalt is just like a unicorn, does not exist.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

That “Unicorn” is actually just another filthy mule!

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

hat “Unicorn” is actually just another filthy mule!

With a horn pasted to its forhead with elmers glue.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Welcome Aristotle – great handle you picked. Have you met my wife, Incontinentia?

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[AristotleParticipant 48]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Welcome Aristotle – great handle you picked. Have you met my wife, Incontinentia?

Like MGTOWs have wives.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Monty Python reference – as is my handle.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I enjoyed reading your replies, so I read your intro. You dodged a major bullet there. I have a buddy who was so devastated about his POF whale girlfriend’s miscarriage, that he got emotionally attached to her and now proposed to her, lives with her 10yo son and his 13yo female dysfunctional cousin like a major mangina, while they all peck his brains out.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[AristotleParticipant 48]

Russky wrote:

I enjoyed reading your replies, so I read your intro. You dodged a major bullet there. I have a buddy who was so devastated about his POF whale girlfriend’s miscarriage, that he got emotionally attached to her and now proposed to her, lives with her 10yo son and his 13yo female dysfunctional cousin like a major mangina, while they all peck his brains out.

Thanks for your reply.
I still have to go through the divorce steps, but since we were married for such a short time no shared assets, no kids, and I can document how much she cost me.

I was attached too, but I had family and friends who did a hell of a job of getting my head screwed back on.

It feels somewhat weird when people who have known you all your life come up to you and tell you “You seem like yourself again.”

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