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I mean, I’m pretty sure I haven’t gotten to that point yet, and I sincerely hope that it exists, because I know I don’t want to live the rest of my life feeling this anger. I want to be able to get to NFG. Like, I want to mean it and not just say I don’t give a f~~~. I understand it’s natural to get mad at hearing all these injustices towards men perpetrated by women/government with little to no consequences while the media tries to make it seem as though it’s the other way around, but that’s not entirely what I’m talking about. I know I still have a few blue-pill tendencies, which is why I want to reach the NFG stage so I can get rid of those for good and not care what others say or think. I want to reach the point where red-pill rage no longer affects me, because if I ever do I’m sure I’ll be free and truly GMOW. I’m tired, so I have no idea if this makes any sense, but anyway I just want to know if any of you have dissolved the red-pill rage and how you did it. I know it’s different for everyone but maybe with some ideas from you guys I’ll be able to figure it out.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
Call it red pill rage, call it being bitter, call it generalized anger, call it what you will.
But i think lots of generalized anger and rage gets called red pill rage, when it’s not always the same thing. Look at how men have been conditioned to hold all their emotions in from birth. Those emotions become internalized and become anger or depression or both.
Then add in the factor that life throws us some cold hard lemons on a constant basis. I feel enraged quite a bit, that’s not going away. I have to work with catty females everyday, and one of my roomates is a psychotic c~~~. So you can imagine, until i can obtain a better job and afford to get away from here, i’m going to be enraged.
Their nature never changes, and in this society they are at an alltime low in every category you can name. If you have to be around them, the rage will not end.
The guys i see on here saying they beat red pill rage, i have to believe are doing well enough to live alone, and likely don’t work in the female infested corporate s~~~holes. Could be wrong.
Every morning I get up and down a few Red Pills with a big f~~~ing glass of Red Pill Rage to wash them down with before I do my daily exercise of kicking myself in the ass for ever believing one single word that comes out of the opposing sex. It’s my most important ‘meal’ of the day.
Why should I get numb to all that f~~~ing injustice and run under the cover of being ‘zen’ ? Why should I ignore the cries of my own soul and those of my brothers ?
Red Pill Rage has been my companion ever since I woke up to Misandry and C~~~f~~~ery. It’s been very useful for a guy like me, who naturally tends towards forgiveness and compassion to the point of stupidity and getting advantaged of. Red Pill Rage is my best friend. Thanks to it I’ll never again get caught up with one of them hoes and end s~~~ up the creek with kids who need me while I’m getting f~~~ed by this gynocentric System.
Go ahead and be zen if you like. Will you be zen when your boss promotes a useless whore ahead of you because of gender quotas? Will you remain zen when an ignorant dirty c~~~ gets in your face and call you every name in the book for manspreading or mansplaining or any other bulls~~~ their sick mind can come up with ?!
As far as I’m concerned, MGTOW and Red Pill Rage go hand in hand. There would be no Men Going Their Own Way without Red Pill Rage, we’d still be back at The Plantation wondering what’s wrong with us!Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I know I still have a few blue-pill tendencies, which is why I want to reach the NFG stage so I can get rid of those for good and not care what others say or think. I want to reach the point where red-pill rage no longer affects me,
I am one that believes blue pill tendencies and Red Pill Rage never “go away” completely, but become more and more manageable over TIME til the point that you may “feel” like they are gone. On the plus side, the blue pill biological (IE: procreation) and societal tendencies (IE: marriage) become less and less important as they are “more often managed” with Red Pill logic instead of anger.
No F~~~s Given is a process that comes with TIME as you begin to see through the societal LIES, and then begin to make other choices in your life based on what YOU WANT, and NOT what society/family WANTS YOU to. NFG Peace and Tranquility replace the rage as YOU begin to see some benefits by making YOUR own CHOICES, saying NO, and not fulfilling the societal LIES. These “benefits” can be small things like spending MONEY on yourself instead of a women, or taking YOUR TIME to invest in a hobby, or just doing WHATEVER the f~~~ YOU WANT to do !!
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
I’d say when the actions of a gynocentric society fail to p~~~ you off any more. When such things as false rape allegations and the inequity of the divorce/family courts no longer cause you anger as opposed to a resigned acknowledgement of the order of things and the clarity of thought to avoid placing yourself in such situations.
you can truly get ‘past’ your virginity but you can never truly get passed anything that you can return to.
for me, I know that I can never return to Marriage. Passed it.
I could return to RPR but its not necessary, so not truly passed it. Its in the holster; conceal carry always wary.with joy/without hate
Anonymous0I mean, I’m pretty sure I haven’t gotten to that point yet, and I sincerely hope that it exists, because I know I don’t want to live the rest of my life feeling this anger. I want to be able to get to NFG. Like, I want to mean it and not just say I don’t give a f~~~. I understand it’s natural to get mad at hearing all these injustices towards men perpetrated by women/government with little to no consequences while the media tries to make it seem as though it’s the other way around, but that’s not entirely what I’m talking about. I know I still have a few blue-pill tendencies, which is why I want to reach the NFG stage so I can get rid of those for good and not care what others say or think. I want to reach the point where red-pill rage no longer affects me, because if I ever do I’m sure I’ll be free and truly GMOW. I’m tired, so I have no idea if this makes any sense, but anyway I just want to know if any of you have dissolved the red-pill rage and how you did it. I know it’s different for everyone but maybe with some ideas from you guys I’ll be able to figure it out.
I think the most important trick for conquering RPR is: Don’t take things personally.
Here’s a quote that talks about how to handle anger, from “The 48 Laws of Power” by Robert Greene. Note the parts that I bolded.
Angry people usually end up looking ridiculous, for their response seems out of proportion to what occasioned it. They have taken things too seriously, exaggerating the hurt or insult that has been done to them. They are so sensitive to slight that it becomes comical how much they take personally. More comical still is their belief that their outbursts signify power. The truth is the opposite: Petulance is not power, it is a sign of helplessness. People may temporarily be cowed by your tantrums, but in the end they lose respect for you. They also realize they can easily undermine a person with so little self-control.
The answer, however, is not to repress our angry or emotional responses. For repression drains us of energy and pushes us into strange behavior. Instead we have to change our perspective: We have to realize that nothing in the social realm, and in the game of power, is personal. (from Law 39)
So how do you keep things from getting personal?
Example 1: I occasionally post messages on a semi-technical internet message board on a subject I like. But it has a political forum that’s overrun by politically correct liberals and SJWs. I can usually ignore the SJWs for a while by staying out of the political forum. But sooner or later the politics spills over into the other forums, and I find myself getting sucked in. I get invested, I start taking it personally, and I get sucked into arguments. To fix the problem: I take a break. Within a couple days of leaving the forum, I’m back to not giving a f~~~. I just get some distance from it, and quit taking it personally.
Example 2: When I was in the military, long before I even heard of the red pill, there were times when morale was really bad in the units. Some new commander came in, made our lives hell, and people started bitching and moaning and talking about how someone ought to frag the commander or something. To fix the problem: Eventually I realized that just because everyone was in a bad mood doesn’t mean that I myself have to be in a bad mood. After all, it wasn’t personal. I would just keep my head low, get a little distance from it, and it quit bothering me. Let everyone else fume. It’s not my problem.
Example 3: Reading red pill stuff can sometimes get me worked up and feeling like the world is against me (and men in general). But I handle that pretty much like bad morale in the military. That is, I have compassion for guys who are being put through the grinder, but I remind myself that it isn’t about me personally. I have my own s~~~ under control, so there’s no need for me to take it personally. Worst comes to worst, if the red pill stuff is too much of a downer, I take a break from the red pill sites. And I remind myself that it’s tough out there for guys in general, but in the meantime *my own life* is actually pretty good (as long as I keep my guard up around the women).
Anyway, I would say that’s the most important thing for avoiding RPR for me: I don’t take things personally.
Anonymous0[…] Anyway, I would say that’s the most important thing for avoiding RPR for me: I don’t take things personally.
As long as I’m on the subject, here are a few more useful quotes from “The 48 Laws of Power” by Robert Greene. I would say that they fall under the heading of “Be proactive, not reactive.” In other words, define yourself rather than letting others define you. (And if you like these quotes, then read “The 48 Laws of Power” yourself. It’s a good book.)
On emotions (Preface)
[Learning the game of power requires certain basic skills…] The most important of these skills, and power’s crucial foundation, is the ability to master your emotions. An emotional response to a situation is the single greatest barrier to power, a mistake that will cost you a lot more than any temporary satisfaction you might gain by expressing your feelings. Emotions cloud reason, and if you cannot see the situation clearly, you cannot prepare for and respond to it with any degree of control.Anger is the most destructive of emotional responses, for it clouds your vision the most. It also has a ripple effect that invariably makes situations less controllable and heightens your enemy’s resolve. If you are trying to destroy an enemy who has hurt you, far better to keep him off-guard by feigning friendliness than showing your anger.
Love and affection are also potentially destructive, in that they blind you to the often self-serving interests of those whom you least suspect of playing a power game. You cannot repress anger or love, or avoid feeling them, and you should not try. But you should be careful about how you express them, and most important, they should never influence your plans and strategies in any way.
On going stealth (Law 38)
We all tell lies and hide our true feelings, for complete free expression is a social impossibility. From an early age we learn to conceal our thoughts, telling the prickly and insecure what we know they want to hear, watching carefully lest we offend them. For most of us this is natural–there are ideas and values that most people accept, and it is pointless to argue. We believe what we want to, then, but on the outside we wear a mask.There are people, however, who see such restraints as an intolerable infringement on their freedom, and who have a need to prove the superiority of their values and beliefs. In the end, though, their arguments convince only a few and offend a great deal more. The reason arguments do not work is that most people hold their ideas and values without thinking about them. There is a strong emotional content in their beliefs: They really do not want to have to rework their habits of thinking, and when you challenge them, either directly through your arguments or indirectly through your behavior, they are hostile.
Wise and clever people learn early on that they can display conventional behavior and mouth conventional ideas without having to believe in them. The power these people gain from blending in is that of being left alone to have the thoughts they want to have, and to express them to the people they want to express them to, without suffering isolation or ostracism. Once they have established themselves in a position of power, they can try to convince a wider circle of the correctness of their ideas […]
On arguing (Law 9)
Never argue. Any momentary triumph you think you have gained through argument is really a Pyrrhic victory. The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change of opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you through your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.On the social graces (Law 24)
–Be polite. It is a wise thing to be polite; consequently it is a stupid thing to be rude. To make enemies by unnecessary and willful incivility is just as insane a proceeding as to set your house on fire. Politeness is admittedly a false coin, but for that very reason there is no need to be stingy with it.
–Be a source of pleasure. Since life is otherwise so full of unpleasantness and pleasure so scarce, you will be as indispensable as food and drink.
–Never joke about appearances or taste. Avoid any kind of joke about appearance or taste, two highly sensitive areas, especially with those above you. Do not even try it when you are away from them. You will dig your own grave.
–Don’t be the court cynic. Express admiration for the good work of others. If you constantly criticize your equals or subordinates, people will groan at each new cynical comment, and you will irritate them. The ability to express wonder and amazement, and seem like you mean it, is a rare and dying talent, but one still greatly valued.Once you have been through this phase:
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
There would be no Men Going Their Own Way without Red Pill Rage,
I don’t think that I have had “Red Pill Rage” the way many of you seem to describe it. I just see women for what they really are but I am not angry at them.
Do you get angry at a wild Grizzly Bear for wanting to rip you to pieces and eat you alive? You don’t get angry at something because it acts IAW it’s own natural behaviour…
Anonymous1Redirect that rage.
Redirect that rage.
Spot on correct, Math.
Let me give you an example here.
Whenever I do drive in a car I have made it a habit to hardly ever use the horn myself (unless entirely necessary).
Now this obviously requires a vast amount of self discipline, since nowadays (the way I see it at least) most people, who are often using their car horns are usually more often than not merely frustrated for virtually almost no reason at all but just in a nearly default frustrated state.
You can easily observe this by the increased frequency of car horns being (miss)used in general by contrast of what the horn itself was originally invented for: to warn other car drivers (and/or any other members of traffic) of potential dangers.
It’s almost like the age old “never cry wolf” thingy. Or in other words in this day and age the button for the car horn is gradually mutating into a frustration release button (or in some cases even into an attention seeker button), whilst no matter how often one pushes it, it for the most part wouldn’t even resolve the original situation and/or the frustration, which caused someone to push it in the first place, or would it…?
At one point in my life on the contrary I actually eventually started to laugh out loud about some driver behind me in a congested traffic situation blowing his horn repeatedly out of the sheer awareness, that him blowing the horn was just pointless with regards to the congested traffic eventually moving any faster because of it.
Now by all means call me a malicious bastard, but to sum it all up once you can even occasionally laugh about other people’s problems (as in “no f~~~s given” about them) then you know that you are pretty much there beyond RPR, which is also referred to as “the void”.
Some contend creator on youtube dedicated a whole video to it which is worth checking out (if I find it again I shall post it here soon…).
Anyway, I hope this helped you a bit…
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
There would be no Men Going Their Own Way without Red Pill Rage,
I don’t think that I have had “Red Pill Rage” the way many of you seem to describe it. I just see women for what they really are but I am not angry at them.
Do you get angry at a wild Grizzly Bear for wanting to rip you to pieces and eat you alive? You don’t get angry at something because it acts IAW it’s own natural behaviour…
I don’t get angry per say nor do I fly off the handle. I realise loosing your cool is useless and hurts me more than anything else. My RPR is rather constantly simmering deep within me like lava in a volcano or some undefined bass noise in the back of my brain, always keeping en garde and wary, keeping s~~~ real and keeping me awake to this world’s injustices and not fool myself hoping for a NAWALT or Unicorn.
AWALT has to be the truest statement I ever read.
Thank you MGTOW.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Math you made my day with that video
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
I can listen to love songs and not get repulsed. Now I’m indifferent.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Anonymous42How does one know if they have truly gotten past the red pill rage?
I’ll answer this one as simple as possible;
You find yourself laughing inside and smiling allot!
Until life’s next larger and more potent red pill!
Then the cycle starts all over again.
In The-End, Charlie Chaplin had it right!
Anonymous11When women fail you, and you chuckle to yourself.
When women fail you, and you chuckle to yourself.
That’s a great barometer! Best I’ve heard, actually.
Very true.
Many common little irritations in life can grate you every day – like a waiter f~~~ing up your order, or the sales person who broke my good sunglasses 3 weeks ago when I took them to get repaired.
I drove to pick them up with new lenses , and he said “ok you’re going to treat these with respect from now on, right?”….. as if he was paying me to wear them. You bet, skippy. I’ll try.
I tried them on and they were slightly leaning to the right. He picks up a pair of pliers to make an adjustment, and I said “are you sure you know what you’re doing??” and BOOM!! He cracked the brand new lenses.
Then – instead of saying “I’m very sorry, you drove all the way over here, sir. We’ll take care of it right away”, the f~~~~~ says “yes I know what I’m doing”.
“APPARENTLY NOT.”
I was furious.
But then I reminded myself, that’s WHY he works in sunglass retail. Unless there is someone to give him a condescending eyebrow raise or disapproving inward breath, he won’t know he’s f~~~ing up. So an otherwise infuriating episode turned into mild amusement and a pathetic shake of my head.
To a certain extent ( only ), it’s also my fault for expecting a mid-50s Monty working in a sunglass shop to have the same sense of propriety and conduct as, say, a Hotel manager at the Four Seasons.
Now it’s not infuriating anymore.
Red Pill rage is often like shaking your fist at a kangaroo for hopping.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Wow, that’s a lot of information to digest. Thanks, guys. That second post by TwoStep is definitely something I’ll have to remember, especially the part about no being such a cynic. As far as what Autolite said, he’s right. I gotta remember that’s just how women are, why the f~~~ should I get mad at them for something they cannot control? I think it’s just the fact that they seem to take joy in destroying men. A bear takes no joy in eating (at least, I don’t think it does), it just fulfills its most basic need. Sure, I can feel satisfied after a good meal, but I don’t really get any joy out of it. And yes, Ned, your post did help. Thanks for all your help, guys.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
It depends on where you are in life with yourself.
Can you depend on you?
Can you take care of you?
Can you manage yourself?Part of red pill rage is the awakening and finding yourself alone on the edge of the cliff while the storm of life cackle’s around you.
Can you find firm footing while you climb out of the societal crevices that you have put yourself into?
In order to get past red pill rage you must find firm footing for yourself. You must fortify and find your place of contentment.
Upon that place you stand with your feet firmly planted and as the wind of the storm approaches you open your eyes and face into the fury.
You don’t move forward nor do you step backwards. As the force increases you lean forward and inside your mind as their voices become a howl you think bring it on….bitches.
Peace brothers
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