How does a Red Piller ever feel safe with women?

[willastParticipant 23]

My observation is that I don’t feel safe around women.  If you give them an inch then they want a foot.  If they get a little foot in the door then it widens until it is wide open.  I just want to stay away from them but that’s not an option in today’s world.  I don’t think my “No” is strong enough to repel them or stop them from intruding into what I want in my space.  I hold a lot of weight as a defensive coping mechanism.  I think it will keep them away subconsciously but it doesn’t.  How do other men feel safe around women?  How do you define your boundaries and keep them strong?

tx.

Elmo

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Welcome Elmo,
No expert here, but treat them like spoiled kids. On defining boundaries, you are correct in your perceptions so I’ll say that you should never give that first inch. Not even one time. Don’t be Nike here – Just DON’T do it. Sometimes they throw a tantrum when they hear ‘no’, so be the adult and don’t escalate it. Say it calmly and politely, but be certain that you are consistent. It’s ‘no’ everytime. This is most important. No followed by yes when they push or nag a little is a signal to them that you can be pushed. If you send that single, it will be seen as an invitation and it WILL be acted on. They don’t know where the boundaries are until they hear know. It’s your responsibility to tell them where your boundaries are. Don’t hesitate to do it.

The important thing is to be calm and polite (so that if they try to escalate, they look like an ass for over reacting to you being calm and polite). They will do it anyway, but it’ll be them that looks like the ass, not you. Look them straight in the eye when you say it. You can even make the statement, “you are being intrusive to boundaries here…”. The more relaxed you are when you say it, the more certainty it carries and the less likely it will be challenged. Say it often enough to be comfortable with it.

There are probably books on amazon written by experts about this. Get them and read them.

Practice… practice… practice… 😀

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Loose NutsParticipant 37]

Your concerns are justified. Since women are the perpetual victim, there’s ultimately nothing you can do to protect yourself. Our society supports their behavior.

A woman can simply claim that she is scared of you and you are automatically deemed her attacker. You would have no recourse. You can begin to video record interactions to provide proof and protect yourself. However, I will not be surprised if this effort is turned against men in the future and they are charged with some form of entrapment for doing so. It might be considered predatory behavior from men against women (always victims). Sounds ridiculous, but feasible.

Remember, you can always get up and leave. And you are right, you start giving and they will take everything they can, primarily control over you.

[…Spectator 1165]

Elmo: some good advice there for ya from brainpilot and loosenutz if you ask me.

loosenutz: interesting point about the video recording. i think it is a very good idea and being an audio editor i already know how to f~~~ s~~~ up. i imagine if your predictions are right, we are in for a new level of hell. male self defense is important. lot of posts about it on here too…..

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

Excellent summation / analysis BrainPilot.   IMHO – men are the mountain and women see themselves as the person who MUST conquer the mountain.  Be strong friend.  It is tough at first.   I am kinda going through the same stuff right now myself.

I don’t recommend this, because it seems a bit harsh and it probably IS a bit harsh, but – when I feel like I am being tested by the vaginated kind – I engage this:   <ASSHOLE MODE ENGAGED>.    This doesn’t deter some women but it sure keeps ’em out.

A little background about me (so you get a reference) – I used to be ‘that guy’ – a pussy whipped, low self esteem pushover that had to ask my girlfriends permission to see my friends (not really, but you get the picture).

After being used again and again by the vaginated kind, my skin started to harden, my heart grew smaller (and darker) and my ‘pussy-boy’ persona started to morph into a me-centered asshole.  After you have had your ass spanked enough and your nose shoved in s~~~ enough, you start to change.

So….  there you have it!    I am sure better way is to check out books – either at your local library or bookstore.

Good luck sir!

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

You know that feeling of not feeling safe around women? You have that feeling because your smart. With that kind of attitude your learning what’s up from what’s down.

For me, I have a pretty good sixth sense about what women I can trust. Thinking about it, I s~~~ test women and if they pass I’ll open up to them a little.

But never, ever give an inch. Not to any woman, relative or not. They simply despise it in men.

My brothers girlfriend was living with him and was very emotionally abusive to him and my mother. My brother wanted her out but was afraid she’d call the cops and claim abuse or claim that she couldn’t move, the kind of fears your having.

Not me. I didn’t go my own way to have someone get out in front and try to block my passage. She was messing with my bro and I wasn’t going to side with this ho. So, one day when their having a fight in front of me and she get’s especially abusive, calling him stupid, weak, crazy, moma’s boy. Basically trying to break any spirit he has left.

I immediately got right in her face. My face inches from her’s and I let her have it. I said to her the things I say here. I’m honest and don’t pull punches. She wasn’t phased. Women are a lot stronger emotionally then the let on. Being over emotional is one of their strongest weapons against men.

But she knows my views and knew that no amount of bulls~~~ talking was going to stop me. She wouldn’t leave so I went up to her room and started throwing her things out the window.

My point is that you can’t live in fear. If you do, they win. Set up win/win situations for yourself.

I know the rules. The moment was right. I had friendly witnesses. The most I was guilty of was yelling at her and throwing some blouses out a window. She was squatting in my brothers house, wouldn’t leave when asked and then was emotionally abusing my brother right in front of his brother…me.

But don’t be stupid. Women have enormous power these days. The power of the entire State is behind them. If they say their scared of you, your through. Don’t ever give them the chance. Don’t fraternize with them at work. Don’t let strange women know your name, phone number, address. If you think you can trust a woman, think again, and again. Maybe you found those one in thousand. Or at least one for right now.

But don’t fear them. They are paper tigers. Learn the rules, stay within them and realize that being around women is a hostile environment for men. But, throughout history men haven’t shirked from a dangerous job.

Even if your MGTOW it’s hard to avoid women all together. Just have a strategy and keep up with what’s happening. One of the reason’s I first got into this stuff was that while I was married in the late 80’s. Within six years the relationships between men and women had radically changed by third wave feminism.

I was shocked but dedicated myself to learning the new rules. My plan, always beat them at their own game. How do you think I got 50/50 custody? Because my ex was nice? Sure.

So, I learned the new rules. And here I am, 25 years later, still learning. Because knowledge is your best defense.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

I don’t. They can always f~~~ me over.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

BrainPilot wrote:

treat them like spoiled kids.

I’ll go you one better and say that you have to treat females the way you would treat a six year old retard. Forget about honesty, loyalty, logic, reason, schedules, plans, agreements, the past, the future… you’ve got to just love them for what they are in the moment and try not to kill them for it at the same time.

[RennieParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BrainPilot wrote:</div>
treat them like spoiled kids.

I’ll go you one better and say that you have to treat females the way you would treat a six year old retard.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Treat em like retarded children, because that’s what they are.

[Anonymous 11]

Elmo,

I will never feel 100% safe with women even as a red pill taker. I know exactly what they are capable of doing. I always operate in a manner that protects me from their capricious behaviors as much as possible. However, one must always remain leery of women in any context especially those where one does not have total control. Even as MGTOWs, there are certain situations where we have to walk on eggshells with them. I just want to barf writing that too. I’d rather word it as acting strategically to give them nothing to use against us. Work is a perfect example of this as one call to Human Resources is all it takes. Women are vindictive manipulative loons. A friend of mine got fired from his managerial job for saying something innocent and within the scope of his duties to a group of his people. A c~~~ within that group went to HR and twisted what he said to suit her agenda. My friend lost his good paying job without due process or recourse.

The ways a women can screw you over are infinite even outside of romantic relationships. The law is on her side. There are legions of white knights chafing at the bit to rescue her. She knows all of this and will use it. We are never 100% safe from women.

I do think that the red pill gives us a huge degree of protection. However, I treat every woman I meet as I would a loaded gun or a venomous snake. I also do not go around openly blabbing that I am a MGHOW. I prefer to operate in stealth as it allows me to keep the red pill advantage.

[Anonymous 0]

You go to women? Do not forget the whip!

Thus Spoke Zarathustra – Friedrich Nietzsche 1844-1900

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

In reply to the titular question – no.

However, have I ever felt endangered by one?  Not in particular.  I credit that to risk mitigation strategies such as avoidance of known hostile areas (e.g. college campuses, bars), and keeping one’s distance from females in general.  There is little that can be alleged if there is a counter separating us.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Well I’m a magnificent bastard, so I have no real fear of women. Now because I intend to leave this world they way I entered it…. naked, broke, screaming, and covered in someone else’s blood) I treat women as a necessary evil so to speak. A subtle mixture of pity and contempt, and combined with a strong pimp hand. Yeah, stay away from them as much as feasible, and be aloof when you can. There is an advantage to being rude to a certain degree. People respect straightforwardness, candor, and frankness. The backhanded compliment is the perfect way to disarm a woman. IF you’re really good like BrainPilot, you can be long gone before she figures out what you said. Serious, BP is the nicest prick I know, he is my hero.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[…Spectator 1165]

just coming on. dang, nice descriptions for 9 30am smitty damn hahahahaha.

wait, did someone just say “titular?”

[…Spectator 1165]

hiwind: well i’ve been scared of them ever since this movie came out…

in this photo, a man realizes what he’s up against in the world.

 

 

[John DoeParticipant 743]

I realized I was good with women during a small summer camp I was working for during my college years while living on a farm.

I realized I was good with animals. (I later trained a cat to sit)

I realized I was good with kids.  (Then respected me at the camp and did what I told them to do.)

You know I how realized I was good with them?  Because I treated them the same as my animals and the kids I was in charge of.  I told them what to do, without cramming their personal space.  And I didn’t take anything they said or did seriously because I knew they did not know what they were doing.  I acknowledged their ignorance and did what I “thought” was best without regard to their “disagreements”.

Until you realize women, children, and animals all have common traits they are a “mystery.”  And men cannot tame or control “mysteries”.

[eastugerParticipant 15]

100% Honesty seems to work for me lately. I suppose honest men scare woman of 😛

[RennieParticipant]

Be nice to them, that drives them away cause they hate it.

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